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BumRushDaShow

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Sun Jul 6, 2025, 06:46 AM Jul 6

Texas officials face scrutiny over response to catastrophic and deadly flooding [View all]

Source: AP

Updated 8:31 PM EDT, July 5, 2025


KERRVILLE, Texas (AP) — Before heading to bed before the Fourth of July holiday, Christopher Flowers checked the weather while staying at a friend’s house along the Guadalupe River. Nothing in the forecast alarmed him.

Hours later, he was rushing to safety: He woke up in darkness to electrical sockets popping and ankle-deep water. Quickly, his family scrambled nine people into the attic. Phones buzzed with alerts, Flowers recalled Saturday, but he did not remember when in the chaos they started. “What they need they need is some kind of external system, like a tornado warning that tells people to get out now,” Flowers, 44, said.

The destructive fast-moving waters that began before sunrise Friday in the Texas Hill Country killed at least 43 people in Kerr County, authorities said Saturday, and an unknown number of people remained missing. Those still unaccounted for included 27 girls from Camp Mystic, a Christian summer camp along a river in Kerr County where most of the dead were recovered.

But as authorities launch one of the largest search-and-rescue efforts in recent Texas history, they have come under intensifying scrutiny over preparations and why residents and youth summer camps that are dotted along the river were not alerted sooner or told to evacuate.

Read more: https://apnews.com/article/texas-floods-hill-country-weather-warnings-238d4325bb58f0b410015f74684738b6



“What they need they need is some kind of external system, like a tornado warning that tells people to get out now,” Flowers, 44, said.


The NWS DOES have that - it's called a "Flash Flood Emergency" and that goes out over the EAS (Emergency Alert System) to all broadcast outlets and cell phones (at least those equipped with the capability - most models do have that capability nowadays).



Apparently FFEs WERE sent out - at least in the Austin metro area and I expect in all of the areas that were impacted. You do have an issue where those "off the grid" and/or any without a cell phone and/or a NOAA weather radio, would not get the alert.

Of course, Muskrat and DOGE took a chainsaw to the NWS and NOAA for ideological reasons, so many bets are off.
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I fear the number will go up to 300-400 before this is all counted Prairie Gates Jul 6 #1
IIRC BumRushDaShow Jul 6 #3
My first thought when I read your reply kkmarie Jul 6 #6
Maybe some zoning laws preventing kids' camps from being built in a flood zone. travelingthrulife Jul 6 #8
Ha! Texas allows explosive chemical plants next to schools, hospitals, etc. Grins Jul 6 #14
Unfortunately, such an attitude can lead to some stinkin' results. calimary Jul 6 #11
shithole musk republicans gutted the NWS, NOAA, Weather Channels, etc.............. Lovie777 Jul 6 #2
This tragic story--like that of hurricane Helene--is not only about budget cuts, but... Ol Janx Spirit Jul 6 #20
General Russell Honore' disagrees with the statement in the OP gab13by13 Jul 6 #4
The UK Guardian made this observation about TX Guv's Press Conference SorellaLaBefana Jul 6 #7
Disgusting people. Slapping each other on the back for a "good job Brownie" after people have died because of their Martin68 Jul 6 #18
A couple of seemingly simple question. Was the warning delayed... paleotn Jul 6 #5
there needs tp be a congresional hearing where everyone is called in... samnsara Jul 6 #10
Exactly my thought. Hearings on top of hearings on top of more and more hearings. paleotn Jul 6 #13
Today's Post reports that the local NWS staff were not significantly reduced. They sent out phone flood warnings Martin68 Jul 6 #19
If true, why did so many die? paleotn Jul 6 #37
Poor planning, apparently. They reportedly have no cell phone service, so they should have made alternative Martin68 Jul 6 #40
In an area known for flash flooding? Bullshit paleotn Jul 7 #47
To me the Texas leaders are incompetent. Jacson6 Jul 6 #9
their response to both was to point fingers elsewhere DBoon Jul 6 #29
Tx. track record Marthe48 Jul 6 #12
What's the GOP response to this? SpankMe Jul 6 #15
In order to get a FFE on your phone... TrumanTheTiger Jul 6 #16
Depending on the provider and phone type BumRushDaShow Jul 6 #21
The National Weather Service sent out phone warnings 3 hours before the flooding became severe. Perhaps they missed them Martin68 Jul 6 #17
There was apparently no cell service at the campsite. Ms. Toad Jul 6 #22
That is entirely believable. Considering their location next to the Guadalupe River, and the history of flooding there, Martin68 Jul 6 #24
Especially after the 1987 similar flooding of this river, Ms. Toad Jul 6 #27
I really doubt that. Have had relatives in that area and no problem getting connected. efhmc Jul 6 #44
I'm just going by the many published comments from those in the area. n/t Ms. Toad Jul 6 #45
You know what I want to know? ananda Jul 6 #23
It's a cool place to be - until there is a flash flood. Martin68 Jul 6 #25
My question is why so CLOSE? ananda Jul 6 #36
99% of the time it is safe. It was up to them to prepare for the inevitable 1%. Martin68 Jul 6 #41
I disagree. ananda Jul 6 #43
With all due respect, if Texas had invested in a flood alert system, they would have been 100% safe. Martin68 Jul 7 #46
In an area known to flash flood, and then ALSO have no phone/internet by policy, RockRaven Jul 6 #28
"Why such an obsession to be right along the river?" BumRushDaShow Jul 6 #33
Kerr County doesn't have a flood warning system because, in the words of an elected official, RockRaven Jul 6 #26
Guess that climate change thingy kind of bit them in the ass but they still have hopes and prayers to count on nt ImNotGod Jul 6 #30
NYT-As Floods Hit, Key Roles Were Vacant at Weather Service Offices in Texas (gift links) LetMyPeopleVote Jul 6 #31
first and foremost lapfog_1 Jul 6 #32
That camp has been there since 1926 BumRushDaShow Jul 6 #34
the 1987 event should have served as a warning for all in the future. lapfog_1 Jul 6 #35
Doge.. Cha Jul 6 #38
9 rushed to the attic DENVERPOPS Jul 6 #39
oh the QUANDARY Skittles Jul 6 #42
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