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31. NYT-As Floods Hit, Key Roles Were Vacant at Weather Service Offices in Texas (gift links)
Sun Jul 6, 2025, 03:41 PM
Jul 6

Some experts say staff shortages might have complicated forecasters’ ability to coordinate responses with local emergency management officials.

🚨 NYT: As Floods Hit, Key Roles Were Vacant at Weather Service Offices in Texas

Some experts say staff shortages might have complicated forecasters’ ability to coordinate responses with local emergency management officials.

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https://www.nytimes.com/2025/07/05/us/politics/texas-floods-warnings-vacancies.html?unlocked_article_code=1.UU8.Zjkx.evidtrUYt_ZY&smid=tw-share

Crucial positions at the local offices of the National Weather Service were unfilled as severe rainfall inundated parts of Central Texas on Friday morning, prompting some experts to question whether staffing shortages made it harder for the forecasting agency to coordinate with local emergency managers as floodwaters rose.....

The staffing shortages suggested a separate problem, those former officials said — the loss of experienced people who would typically have helped communicate with local authorities in the hours after flash flood warnings were issued overnight.

The shortages are among the factors likely to be scrutinized as the death toll climbs from the floods. Separate questions have emerged about the preparedness of local communities, including Kerr County’s apparent lack of a local flood warning system. The county, roughly 50 miles northwest of San Antonio, is where many of the deaths occurred......

The National Weather Service’s San Angelo office, which is responsible for some of the areas hit hardest by Friday’s flooding, was missing a senior hydrologist, staff forecaster and meteorologist in charge, according to Tom Fahy, the legislative director for the National Weather Service Employees Organization, the union that represents Weather Service workers.

The Weather Service’s nearby San Antonio office, which covers other areas hit by the floods, also had significant vacancies, including a warning coordination meteorologist and science officer, Mr. Fahy said. Staff members in those positions are meant to work with local emergency managers to plan for floods, including when and how to warn local residents and help them evacuate.

That office’s warning coordination meteorologist left on April 30, after taking the early retirement package the Trump administration used to reduce the number of federal employees, according to a person with knowledge of his departure......

John Sokich, who until January was director of congressional affairs for the National Weather Service, said those unfilled positions made it harder to coordinate with local officials because each Weather Service office works as a team. “Reduced staffing puts that in jeopardy,” he said......

An equally important question, he added, was how the Weather Service was coordinating with local emergency managers to act on those warnings as they came in.

“You have to have a response mechanism that involves local officials,” Dr. Uccellini said. “It involves a relationship with the emergency management community, at every level.”

But that requires having staff members in those positions, he said......

Typically, Mr. Sokich said, the Weather Service will send an official to meet regularly with local emergency managers for what are called “tabletop operations” — planning ahead of time for what to do in case of a flash flood or other major weather disaster.

But the Trump administration’s pursuit of fewer staff members means remaining employees have less time to spend coordinating with local officials, he said.

I have been through a number of hurricanes/storms including Ike, Allison, Harvey and lately Berly. There were weather service people coordinating with local officials during all of these storms. Here the DOGE and trump cuts meant that the weather service did not have the staff available to coordinate with the local officials.

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I fear the number will go up to 300-400 before this is all counted Prairie Gates Jul 6 #1
IIRC BumRushDaShow Jul 6 #3
My first thought when I read your reply kkmarie Jul 6 #6
Maybe some zoning laws preventing kids' camps from being built in a flood zone. travelingthrulife Jul 6 #8
Ha! Texas allows explosive chemical plants next to schools, hospitals, etc. Grins Jul 6 #14
Unfortunately, such an attitude can lead to some stinkin' results. calimary Jul 6 #11
shithole musk republicans gutted the NWS, NOAA, Weather Channels, etc.............. Lovie777 Jul 6 #2
This tragic story--like that of hurricane Helene--is not only about budget cuts, but... Ol Janx Spirit Jul 6 #20
General Russell Honore' disagrees with the statement in the OP gab13by13 Jul 6 #4
The UK Guardian made this observation about TX Guv's Press Conference SorellaLaBefana Jul 6 #7
Disgusting people. Slapping each other on the back for a "good job Brownie" after people have died because of their Martin68 Jul 6 #18
A couple of seemingly simple question. Was the warning delayed... paleotn Jul 6 #5
there needs tp be a congresional hearing where everyone is called in... samnsara Jul 6 #10
Exactly my thought. Hearings on top of hearings on top of more and more hearings. paleotn Jul 6 #13
Today's Post reports that the local NWS staff were not significantly reduced. They sent out phone flood warnings Martin68 Jul 6 #19
If true, why did so many die? paleotn Jul 6 #37
Poor planning, apparently. They reportedly have no cell phone service, so they should have made alternative Martin68 Jul 6 #40
In an area known for flash flooding? Bullshit paleotn Jul 7 #47
To me the Texas leaders are incompetent. Jacson6 Jul 6 #9
their response to both was to point fingers elsewhere DBoon Jul 6 #29
Tx. track record Marthe48 Jul 6 #12
What's the GOP response to this? SpankMe Jul 6 #15
In order to get a FFE on your phone... TrumanTheTiger Jul 6 #16
Depending on the provider and phone type BumRushDaShow Jul 6 #21
The National Weather Service sent out phone warnings 3 hours before the flooding became severe. Perhaps they missed them Martin68 Jul 6 #17
There was apparently no cell service at the campsite. Ms. Toad Jul 6 #22
That is entirely believable. Considering their location next to the Guadalupe River, and the history of flooding there, Martin68 Jul 6 #24
Especially after the 1987 similar flooding of this river, Ms. Toad Jul 6 #27
I really doubt that. Have had relatives in that area and no problem getting connected. efhmc Jul 6 #44
I'm just going by the many published comments from those in the area. n/t Ms. Toad Jul 6 #45
You know what I want to know? ananda Jul 6 #23
It's a cool place to be - until there is a flash flood. Martin68 Jul 6 #25
My question is why so CLOSE? ananda Jul 6 #36
99% of the time it is safe. It was up to them to prepare for the inevitable 1%. Martin68 Jul 6 #41
I disagree. ananda Jul 6 #43
With all due respect, if Texas had invested in a flood alert system, they would have been 100% safe. Martin68 Jul 7 #46
In an area known to flash flood, and then ALSO have no phone/internet by policy, RockRaven Jul 6 #28
"Why such an obsession to be right along the river?" BumRushDaShow Jul 6 #33
Kerr County doesn't have a flood warning system because, in the words of an elected official, RockRaven Jul 6 #26
Guess that climate change thingy kind of bit them in the ass but they still have hopes and prayers to count on nt ImNotGod Jul 6 #30
NYT-As Floods Hit, Key Roles Were Vacant at Weather Service Offices in Texas (gift links) LetMyPeopleVote Jul 6 #31
first and foremost lapfog_1 Jul 6 #32
That camp has been there since 1926 BumRushDaShow Jul 6 #34
the 1987 event should have served as a warning for all in the future. lapfog_1 Jul 6 #35
Doge.. Cha Jul 6 #38
9 rushed to the attic DENVERPOPS Jul 6 #39
oh the QUANDARY Skittles Jul 6 #42
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