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lapfog_1

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32. first and foremost

Sun Jul 6, 2025, 03:49 PM

Jul 6

First - WHY the fuck were the camps even near the river... anywhere near a potential flash flood. This river has a history of flooding. The 1987 flood should have put all of the land that might flood off limits for human habitation ( even for camp housing ).

Second - Camps like this should ALWAYS have someone on duty 24 hours a day, tied into various weather, police, etc warning systems with the ability to trigger a variety of warnings ( flood, tornado, active shooter, etc ) with procedures to all camp counselors on how to respond within minutes to each type of warning.

Third - When they de-fund the weather satellites... and reduce the weather balloons, WTF do they think with happen. All models require data to operate. What is she even talking about regarding modernizing the NWS? New computer systems to run the models... sure. AI - OK... but all of these need data, the more data the better.

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Texas officials face scrutiny over response to catastrophic and deadly flooding [View all] BumRushDaShow Jul 6 OP

I fear the number will go up to 300-400 before this is all counted Prairie Gates Jul 6 #1

IIRC BumRushDaShow Jul 6 #3

My first thought when I read your reply kkmarie Jul 6 #6

Maybe some zoning laws preventing kids' camps from being built in a flood zone. travelingthrulife Jul 6 #8

Ha! Texas allows explosive chemical plants next to schools, hospitals, etc. Grins Jul 6 #14

Unfortunately, such an attitude can lead to some stinkin' results. calimary Jul 6 #11

shithole musk republicans gutted the NWS, NOAA, Weather Channels, etc.............. Lovie777 Jul 6 #2

This tragic story--like that of hurricane Helene--is not only about budget cuts, but... Ol Janx Spirit Jul 6 #20

General Russell Honore' disagrees with the statement in the OP gab13by13 Jul 6 #4

The UK Guardian made this observation about TX Guv's Press Conference SorellaLaBefana Jul 6 #7

Disgusting people. Slapping each other on the back for a "good job Brownie" after people have died because of their Martin68 Jul 6 #18

A couple of seemingly simple question. Was the warning delayed... paleotn Jul 6 #5

there needs tp be a congresional hearing where everyone is called in... samnsara Jul 6 #10

Exactly my thought. Hearings on top of hearings on top of more and more hearings. paleotn Jul 6 #13

Today's Post reports that the local NWS staff were not significantly reduced. They sent out phone flood warnings Martin68 Jul 6 #19

If true, why did so many die? paleotn Jul 6 #37

Poor planning, apparently. They reportedly have no cell phone service, so they should have made alternative Martin68 Jul 6 #40

In an area known for flash flooding? Bullshit paleotn Jul 7 #47

To me the Texas leaders are incompetent. Jacson6 Jul 6 #9

their response to both was to point fingers elsewhere DBoon Jul 6 #29

Tx. track record Marthe48 Jul 6 #12

What's the GOP response to this? SpankMe Jul 6 #15

In order to get a FFE on your phone... TrumanTheTiger Jul 6 #16

Depending on the provider and phone type BumRushDaShow Jul 6 #21

The National Weather Service sent out phone warnings 3 hours before the flooding became severe. Perhaps they missed them Martin68 Jul 6 #17

There was apparently no cell service at the campsite. Ms. Toad Jul 6 #22

That is entirely believable. Considering their location next to the Guadalupe River, and the history of flooding there, Martin68 Jul 6 #24

Especially after the 1987 similar flooding of this river, Ms. Toad Jul 6 #27

I really doubt that. Have had relatives in that area and no problem getting connected. efhmc Jul 6 #44

I'm just going by the many published comments from those in the area. n/t Ms. Toad Jul 6 #45

You know what I want to know? ananda Jul 6 #23

It's a cool place to be - until there is a flash flood. Martin68 Jul 6 #25

My question is why so CLOSE? ananda Jul 6 #36

99% of the time it is safe. It was up to them to prepare for the inevitable 1%. Martin68 Jul 6 #41

I disagree. ananda Jul 6 #43

With all due respect, if Texas had invested in a flood alert system, they would have been 100% safe. Martin68 Jul 7 #46

In an area known to flash flood, and then ALSO have no phone/internet by policy, RockRaven Jul 6 #28

"Why such an obsession to be right along the river?" BumRushDaShow Jul 6 #33

Kerr County doesn't have a flood warning system because, in the words of an elected official, RockRaven Jul 6 #26

Guess that climate change thingy kind of bit them in the ass but they still have hopes and prayers to count on nt ImNotGod Jul 6 #30

NYT-As Floods Hit, Key Roles Were Vacant at Weather Service Offices in Texas (gift links) LetMyPeopleVote Jul 6 #31

first and foremost lapfog_1 Jul 6 #32

That camp has been there since 1926 BumRushDaShow Jul 6 #34

the 1987 event should have served as a warning for all in the future. lapfog_1 Jul 6 #35

Doge.. Cha Jul 6 #38

9 rushed to the attic DENVERPOPS Jul 6 #39

oh the QUANDARY Skittles Jul 6 #42