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steve2470

(37,461 posts)
5. two kinds of trolls: paid and unpaid
Sat Dec 27, 2014, 05:23 PM
Dec 2014

I'm very confident there's at least one paid troll on DU, because it just makes sense from the RNC perspective. Probably more than that. From a conservative and Republican point of view, why not disrupt the largest Democratic Party-oriented (not endorsed or affiliated, of course) on the internet ?

Unpaid trolls, plenty of them. They love to argue (not discuss), be snarky, be disrespectful, get people hidden, and in extreme cases get people PPR'ed. From what I've seen, they are 100% white (or that's what they claim). It was interesting who did not rec my giant thread about welcoming black people back to DU and who did not comment. It's interesting who NEVER recs or positively comments in racism-related threads. It's interesting who never starts a positive racism-related thread. One can judge for oneself from all pieces of evidence.

I'm a white guy also. I also believe in listening and learning. I'm still learning about cultural appropriation versus cultural assimilation, so I'm not commenting on those threads. What I do know is, we white people need to be respectful and listen. We always need to be respectful. You're a good guy, Tobin, and I'm glad you're here. Some of the other white people, imho, need to leave DU. If one cannot respect black people, one needs to leave DU and leave the Democratic Party. It's just that simple.

Black folks here have been the long dead canaries in the DU coal mine ... 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2014 #1
I think that many of us white folks are shutting up about and really reading the posts of JDPriestly Dec 2014 #7
+1 nt steve2470 Dec 2014 #9
+ another Scuba Dec 2014 #49
+100. Thanks for listening with an open-mind! Nt Anansi1171 Dec 2014 #103
No, I'm on board with you BOTH! cilla4progress Dec 2014 #2
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Because someone is Black that doesn't upaloopa Dec 2014 #3
Holy shit! Tobin S. Dec 2014 #4
You don't know shit about me. upaloopa Dec 2014 #11
I haven't claimed to know anything about you! Tobin S. Dec 2014 #15
His opinion. Your reaction makes it truth. nt TeamPooka Dec 2014 #22
DingDingding We have a winner! Upaloopa - you just proved the OP's point. Tommymac Dec 2014 #48
No jumping on the couch! marym625 Dec 2014 #119
Sorry Mom. Got a bit carried away. Tommymac Dec 2014 #128
OK then marym625 Dec 2014 #129
Actually, you start to get to know someone with 5,500+ posts. We're getting to know each other. marble falls Dec 2014 #79
Thank you for your OP JustAnotherGen Dec 2014 #52
Right.. who knew.. a perfect example would pop up on this thread? Cha Dec 2014 #63
Like this one? JustAnotherGen Dec 2014 #66
Precisely, Gen.. it never fails. They cannot help themselves, even in the AA Group. It's all about Cha Dec 2014 #67
You hit it on the nose there, racism is a white and white ONLY problem in america and most white randys1 Dec 2014 #106
+ ellenrr Dec 2014 #84
As you see/will see ... 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2014 #151
You saw it too eh? JustAnotherGen Dec 2014 #170
They may know more about black issues than you do though. bravenak Dec 2014 #6
I warned him brave - no more "shut up" or he will be blocked JustAnotherGen Dec 2014 #53
Good. bravenak Dec 2014 #57
You are posting in a group, brer cat Dec 2014 #8
I didn't piss on anyone's thread. upaloopa Dec 2014 #13
Your responses in this thread BainsBane Dec 2014 #16
Your words are right there for everyone to see, you certainly did pee in this thread, & this GROUP. Raine1967 Dec 2014 #39
Let me make this clear: You don't speak for me. and as far as a 'blanket description': Raine1967 Dec 2014 #45
You most certainly did JustAnotherGen Dec 2014 #54
Yes you did, for everyone to see. sheshe2 Dec 2014 #71
As opposed to your blanket references to black people, ie: "them"? Your problem is the correct .... marble falls Dec 2014 #81
You just go on and on heaven05 Dec 2014 #121
What does that even mean? notadmblnd Dec 2014 #14
Wow how disrspectful to OP! This is exactly what he was talking about. ncjustice80 Dec 2014 #23
Group Host weighing in JustAnotherGen Dec 2014 #50
Just one point this is a specific forum for sanctuary from the general still_one Dec 2014 #158
two kinds of trolls: paid and unpaid steve2470 Dec 2014 #5
Wish I could rec your posting yuiyoshida Dec 2014 #12
the same goes for Asian-American related threads steve2470 Dec 2014 #35
Plus 1000 JustAnotherGen Dec 2014 #55
The listening and learning part BainsBane Dec 2014 #17
yep I agree nt steve2470 Dec 2014 #28
seriously BlancheSplanchnik Dec 2014 #36
Many paid trolls all over the internet, and their main job is to get Democrats NOT to vote in 2016 randys1 Dec 2014 #108
I don't believe it for a minute. Agschmid Dec 2014 #163
they call into liberal radio shows ALL the time, they are here too randys1 Dec 2014 #167
Yup and they are called assholes, they aren't paid trolls. Agschmid Dec 2014 #189
Thom Hartmann is the one who asserted it, and I agree. Maybe he would know more randys1 Dec 2014 #202
I'm saying they don't need to pay to do it... Agschmid Dec 2014 #203
I agree but I listen to tons and tons of liberal talk radio and hear the same 7 or 8 voices randys1 Dec 2014 #205
+1000 heaven05 Dec 2014 #124
That's kinda true for many topics jeff47 Dec 2014 #10
WTF!?!? It's raining! marble falls Dec 2014 #82
It's almost as if people going on a political chat want to chat about politics... kioa Dec 2014 #105
I just did a test post on class warfare and got some denials. Spitfire of ATJ Dec 2014 #18
Don't worry..... DeSwiss Dec 2014 #19
Shut up and just listen War Horse Dec 2014 #20
Where is the barrage of threads bemoaning black-on-white racism? Doctor_J Dec 2014 #21
What's this about? bravenak Dec 2014 #25
I saw the thread on the Greatest page, clicked on it, and would like to be pointed to some of the Doctor_J Dec 2014 #29
Ok. bravenak Dec 2014 #32
Since you're here BainsBane Dec 2014 #41
No racism here at DU, just white privileged people pretending racism doesnt exist... randys1 Dec 2014 #110
Exactly and they are using pretzel logic to rationalize their position. Debating it, is futile. Tuesday Afternoon Dec 2014 #125
Go back to February 2014 JustAnotherGen Dec 2014 #60
Well, the OP seemed to indicate a very recent torrent of busy, blatantly racist threads Doctor_J Dec 2014 #156
What the hell are you talking about? Where is the black on white RACISM that you whining about? Number23 Dec 2014 #174
take a look DonCoquixote Dec 2014 #272
How do you know the Color of a person on DU? Cryptoad Dec 2014 #24
Self identification. bravenak Dec 2014 #27
Self proclamation still has not meaning......you can say you are anything.... Cryptoad Dec 2014 #33
Who pretends to be black for fun and continues while getting trolled everyday by name removed? bravenak Dec 2014 #38
name removed lol rbrnmw Dec 2014 #152
I always imagine this guy. bravenak Dec 2014 #154
LOL rbrnmw Dec 2014 #161
hahahahahaha Cali_Democrat Dec 2014 #268
Don't feed the trolls. They're not worth it. They're like talk radio or shit on a dinner plate. valerief Dec 2014 #232
I agree steve2470 Dec 2014 #236
She's black JustAnotherGen Dec 2014 #58
Well, I chose my screen-name for pure sh!ts and giggles ... 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2014 #155
Me? JustAnotherGen Dec 2014 #159
Crypto's not talking about posts in the AA group. And neither was the OP Doctor_J Dec 2014 #34
Because I'm mean? bravenak Dec 2014 #37
A Trusting Soul......... Cryptoad Dec 2014 #40
Are you talking about me? bravenak Dec 2014 #42
You are marym625 Dec 2014 #51
Thank you. bravenak Dec 2014 #56
+ 1,000,000,000... What You Said !!! WillyT Dec 2014 #26
a lot of that stuff would have been shut down by mods. mopinko Dec 2014 #30
You bring up a huge problem Fred Friendlier Dec 2014 #31
Wow, way to throw a jab in at atheists, there. F4lconF16 Dec 2014 #78
White ATHEISTS are the problem? WTF randys1 Dec 2014 #111
I don't know about "atheists"; but, they are certainly ... 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2014 #162
As a white atheist I see no truth in your proclamation that we are the problem justiceischeap Dec 2014 #285
Yea, damned atheists. LiberalAndProud Dec 2014 #311
Ridiculous deflection. Feral Child Dec 2014 #319
Well said. The Velveteen Ocelot Dec 2014 #43
I am not easily discouraged. :) bravenak Dec 2014 #44
Good. "Don't let the bastards grind you down," as the old saying goes. The Velveteen Ocelot Dec 2014 #46
I have learned the most by making false assumptions over and over and having randys1 Dec 2014 #113
Melissa Harris Perry offered the following ... 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2014 #164
We can confront it gwheezie Dec 2014 #47
Can you edit OP? JustAnotherGen Dec 2014 #59
Will do. n/t Tobin S. Dec 2014 #86
That will go a long way to stopping nonsense JustAnotherGen Dec 2014 #87
seriously do DonCoquixote Dec 2014 #253
"What that basically means for me is shutting up about it and really listening to black people." Cha Dec 2014 #61
I think suggesting that anyone needs to 'shut up' because of race to be condescending at best. kioa Dec 2014 #91
When the one person is trying to have his/her opinion ... 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2014 #165
Thank you. Cha Dec 2014 #169
The DU LGBT community has gone through this animus on DU and sometimes people justiceischeap Dec 2014 #286
I agree Tobin S. that listening and learning is essential. lovemydog Dec 2014 #62
is this about the d_b Dec 2014 #64
Nope - a pattern of behavior that is rotten to the core JustAnotherGen Dec 2014 #65
Mahalo for the links, Gen. Cha Dec 2014 #68
Its the polite racist that are the dangerous ones. I learned about racism at the feet of my..... marble falls Dec 2014 #85
LOL ... 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2014 #166
I lived at W45th and Lorain and 140th and Puritas. In the 1950's and early 60's. Kids have to be.... marble falls Dec 2014 #168
Jesus...i am so sorry you had to experience that. randys1 Dec 2014 #325
That's just it ... 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2014 #327
since a certain person asked where to find examples DonCoquixote Dec 2014 #271
He trashed the thread JustAnotherGen Dec 2014 #273
of course DonCoquixote Dec 2014 #274
I have just read through your links and.... Spazito Dec 2014 #290
I took the time to read thru your links, JAG. Thanks for putting the post together Hekate Dec 2014 #313
I have been staying away from the threads marym625 Dec 2014 #69
I came back to DU to have a look around and I'm just sickened. myrna minx Dec 2014 #70
"shutting up...and really listening to black people". It's really that simple. Mister Ed Dec 2014 #72
they won;t say it DonCoquixote Dec 2014 #73
No, I think more accurately ... 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2014 #171
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Well Tobin there is a real problem here Kalidurga Dec 2014 #77
swearing isn't allowed here? marym625 Dec 2014 #122
In real life I have been told that I cus bad enough to make a sailor blush Kalidurga Dec 2014 #142
This message was self-deleted by its author Corruption Inc Dec 2014 #80
Even if there were a lot of posts like that here (which I have not seen) Tobin S. Dec 2014 #89
Words only carry what power we give them. kioa Dec 2014 #95
That's not exactly what I said. Tobin S. Dec 2014 #97
You wrote the OP. If you don't want people to listen to you, you're going about it in an odd manner. kioa Dec 2014 #98
Welcome to being black in America JustAnotherGen Dec 2014 #100
Did I do something wrong? If so, say what it is. kioa Dec 2014 #102
You might want to read through the the first pae of posts in this group JustAnotherGen Dec 2014 #107
You made an issue specifically with MY comment & by extension with me. kioa Dec 2014 #109
I never told you to shut up JustAnotherGen Dec 2014 #112
You engaged me. If you have a problem with anything I have said, please, say so. kioa Dec 2014 #118
This is enough JustAnotherGen Dec 2014 #120
Very well. Lets take a step back. kioa Dec 2014 #126
You are not understanding the op. bravenak Dec 2014 #127
At no time have I ever kioa Dec 2014 #130
That's because the op is not about you. bravenak Dec 2014 #132
Because statements addressed to the public.... kioa Dec 2014 #136
Hey, guess what? bravenak Dec 2014 #137
Strange. The OP telling others to "shut up" doesn't address me. kioa Dec 2014 #141
Hey! bravenak Dec 2014 #144
"shutting up" is NOT the point of OP. heaven05 Dec 2014 #143
You are demonstrating your views on race BainsBane Dec 2014 #267
I have zero problem with you JustAnotherGen Dec 2014 #131
Your first sentence of your post and the first sentence of your final paragraph directly contradict kioa Dec 2014 #135
Your participation is up for review JustAnotherGen Dec 2014 #140
Do you realize gollygee Dec 2014 #180
you are so obviously not listening to what other posters are telling you fishwax Dec 2014 #270
The point is to listen BainsBane Dec 2014 #265
you were never told, specifically, to shut up heaven05 Dec 2014 #139
There is a collection of letters though heaven05 Dec 2014 #138
Those are absolutely descriptions of 300 years of abuse. kioa Dec 2014 #146
well good heaven05 Dec 2014 #147
I think my original statement was fairly bland & self apparent. kioa Dec 2014 #148
your original statement heaven05 Dec 2014 #149
You're right. He didn't tell one person to "shut up". He told many people to "shut up" kioa Dec 2014 #150
"shut up" = white people need to listen and learn steve2470 Dec 2014 #153
I simply made the very simple statement that kioa Dec 2014 #157
what you were doing with this dead-horse beating Kali Dec 2014 #186
I did JustAnotherGen Dec 2014 #201
Yeah, you were way to kind to that one... giftedgirl77 Dec 2014 #257
what are you talking about? rbrnmw Dec 2014 #185
I don't agree with your assessment of DU. yes there are racists, ellenrr Dec 2014 #83
It's not just about the recent conflicts with the police Tobin S. Dec 2014 #90
Someone alerted on this thread? JustAnotherGen Dec 2014 #93
Yes. I got a PM about it. Tobin S. Dec 2014 #94
well, I'll defer to you, bec. I haven't been a regular poster for very long. I think ellenrr Dec 2014 #96
They haven't been though JustAnotherGen Dec 2014 #99
I think it's bad enough to have racist posts anywhere on DU, but there are special ellenrr Dec 2014 #104
I've been a host here for awhile JustAnotherGen Dec 2014 #114
Appreciate that. I'm glad to be here. I'll probably read more than write, ellenrr Dec 2014 #115
I agree with his assessment JustAnotherGen Dec 2014 #92
The simple truth about this place is there is a large group of rightwingers, who post in certain randys1 Dec 2014 #116
I think if you complain in Ask the Admin JustAnotherGen Dec 2014 #117
Funny ... 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2014 #173
I bet HE was! JustAnotherGen Dec 2014 #176
Perhaps ... 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2014 #177
Well it's not childish if it's true! JustAnotherGen Dec 2014 #179
lol rbrnmw Dec 2014 #182
& now that his posting priveleges have been revoked... giftedgirl77 Dec 2014 #318
LOL ... 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2014 #324
that is so not true about you rbrnmw Dec 2014 #181
Thanks ... 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2014 #184
You have no such history gollygee Dec 2014 #187
Perhaps, but the fabricated B.S. got the hide. n/t 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2014 #188
Yes ... 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2014 #172
It's out there, ellen. Feral Child Dec 2014 #320
WOW!!! bravenak Dec 2014 #323
It was your posts that made me look Feral Child Dec 2014 #326
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There are members of the white community who have taken their privilege for granted. Baitball Blogger Dec 2014 #101
The problem abelenkpe Dec 2014 #123
+1 bravenak Dec 2014 #133
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Great discussion heaven05 Dec 2014 #145
And made it all about those two words JustAnotherGen Dec 2014 #160
Thanks, Tobin. Though this will fall on deaf ears like so many other OPs imploring people to get out Number23 Dec 2014 #175
I use to trash the threads and was not going to comment rbrnmw Dec 2014 #183
"White people here do not seem to understand that without the black community the Democratic party Number23 Dec 2014 #178
Agreed ferverently with all you said. And they are shameless and refuse to listen. freshwest Dec 2014 #194
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Well said, Number23! Spazito Dec 2014 #291
Yes yes yes Hekate Dec 2014 #314
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Hopefully you'll be out of here before you get a chance to even see my post Number23 Dec 2014 #191
lol, thanks to that (deleted) poster, who in the last paragraph, ellenrr Dec 2014 #192
Damn. I feel neglected! n/t 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2014 #266
oh you didn't make the list? ellenrr Dec 2014 #278
Where have I seen this before? JustAnotherGen Dec 2014 #199
You've read that here at least twice before from other one post wonders. marble falls Dec 2014 #200
I think I know who that is rbrnmw Dec 2014 #204
Thanks for preserving this post. I always want to see the Name Removed posts. kwassa Dec 2014 #208
" I wonder if this is our old friend .... now on vacation." Number23 Dec 2014 #218
There is no jury mechanism to reveal a pattern of abuse .... kwassa Dec 2014 #221
DU will be "saved" by "making it open to more conservative views"?! Hekate Dec 2014 #315
the Carlton Banks thing was such a joke JI7 Dec 2014 #193
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It is getting worse by the hour...Why is this alleged liberal message board dominated randys1 Dec 2014 #206
Did you happen to see this Op posted in AA just a few minutes ago? bravenak Dec 2014 #207
that guy came from Stormfront-lite (Discussionist) or the real Stormfront steve2470 Dec 2014 #209
I think so too. bravenak Dec 2014 #210
You are being attacked by long time members of DU, why shouldnt rightwing racists from randys1 Dec 2014 #212
Name removed is the most prolific poster right now. bravenak Dec 2014 #216
OK, now "name removed" is not one poster, right? "name removed" is racist after randys1 Dec 2014 #223
Yeah Randy, you so funny! bravenak Dec 2014 #224
yes they post junk about DU steve2470 Dec 2014 #217
Oh, god... bravenak Dec 2014 #219
Dear god no, where is this? Is it hidden already? randys1 Dec 2014 #211
Why would you assume that was sarcasm? Do you think someone posted that ironically Number23 Dec 2014 #213
I meant when I started to read it I thought it was, it was so outlandish, so racist randys1 Dec 2014 #214
They believe it, Randy. They do Number23 Dec 2014 #220
Blaming racial divide in American on Black people is like randys1 Dec 2014 #226
It is hidden. bravenak Dec 2014 #215
Holy crap! gollygee Dec 2014 #222
Umm hmm, proof baby!!! bravenak Dec 2014 #225
OMG bravenek rbrnmw Dec 2014 #227
I was actually mildly surprised at the boldness. bravenak Dec 2014 #228
I am just so sick of the shit rbrnmw Dec 2014 #229
I am just so USED to this shit. bravenak Dec 2014 #230
being use to it doesn't make it any less sickening though rbrnmw Dec 2014 #231
So true. bravenak Dec 2014 #233
I don't think it's nerve. I think it's deperation and fear, knowing their time has passed. arcane1 Dec 2014 #238
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Because you care about DU so much after one day? bravenak Dec 2014 #237
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I'm glad I'm not forced to read DU posts. arcane1 Dec 2014 #240
That goes both ways now don't it? bravenak Dec 2014 #241
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You're oppressing me right now. bravenak Dec 2014 #244
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Did you just call me a nigger? bravenak Dec 2014 #252
I need to step away for an hour or 2 rbrnmw Dec 2014 #259
I know. bravenak Dec 2014 #261
Journal - did you just call me a nigger JustAnotherGen Dec 2014 #275
These people are a trip!! bravenak Dec 2014 #276
No - but I will look later JustAnotherGen Dec 2014 #279
I noticed that too this summer. bravenak Dec 2014 #280
They don't seem to be too fond of anyone marym625 Dec 2014 #289
Never!! bravenak Dec 2014 #292
totally get that! marym625 Dec 2014 #293
.... bravenak Dec 2014 #294
Well you know I have to marym625 Dec 2014 #295
bravenak, sorry to break in here, off topic Feral Child Dec 2014 #322
Awesome. I never use those words even in private circles. I hate hate and hate words. Elmer S. E. Dump Apr 2015 #328
Me too!! I hate them so much. bravenak Apr 2015 #329
Seems there will always be 2 types of people in this world Elmer S. E. Dump Apr 2015 #330
Yes we do. bravenak Apr 2015 #331
For the first time in history, white men are expected to treat non-whites and women with civility arcane1 Dec 2014 #246
I do not understand the anger at not being special anymore. bravenak Dec 2014 #249
I think it's hard for them to accept being equal to people they thought were inferior to them arcane1 Dec 2014 #254
A great deal of self-loathing is required too. Comfortable people don't act this way. arcane1 Dec 2014 #296
I'm thinking our friend ain't much to look at. bravenak Dec 2014 #298
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Another one!!! bravenak Dec 2014 #284
And they continue to prove my point. arcane1 Dec 2014 #297
Stupidest people in the world. bravenak Dec 2014 #299
There is definitely an undercurrent of sexual insecurity/envy in many of those posts. arcane1 Dec 2014 #300
For suuure. bravenak Dec 2014 #301
It's weird how obsessed they are with the inherent awesomeness of black men. bravenak Dec 2014 #304
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I feel like I have my own TMZ. bravenak Dec 2014 #306
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Lol! bravenak Dec 2014 #308
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I'm taking a nap, so, see you at 3, lol!! bravenak Dec 2014 #310
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who says only whites can be racist? Have you a good what privilege means? "for the sake of du"???? uppityperson Dec 2014 #242
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You poor thang!! bravenak Dec 2014 #247
And to save DU!!!1 arcane1 Dec 2014 #248
Hahahahahaha!!!! bravenak Dec 2014 #250
Another one preserved for posterity. It's acting on me like a purgative... Hekate Dec 2014 #316
So many people actually refuse to believe things could be so bad for other human beings. Dont call me Shirley Dec 2014 #234
side note DonCoquixote Dec 2014 #255
wow, it seems like Stormfront emptied their sewers to troll this thread steve2470 Dec 2014 #258
Indeed, and MIRT is ON FIRE! They're PPR'ed before I even realize they've replied to me arcane1 Dec 2014 #260
yes MIRT rocks!!!! steve2470 Dec 2014 #263
The MIR team did a fantastic job this weekend too! JustAnotherGen Dec 2014 #277
maybe more people than you realize are doing that. Jackpine Radical Dec 2014 #262
Unfortunately, the ones that aren't marym625 Dec 2014 #264
That's no doubt true. Jackpine Radical Dec 2014 #287
For me as well marym625 Dec 2014 #288
KICK & REC! Feral Child Dec 2014 #269
Fantastic OP. Thanks for writing it. riqster Dec 2014 #281
Rec before, kicking now... MrScorpio Dec 2014 #282
I do think that the ignorant asses (i.e. trolls of the internet) Bill USA Dec 2014 #312
++ ellenrr Dec 2014 #321
KnR for a better New Year here Hekate Dec 2014 #317
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