2016 Postmortem

JRLeft

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134. The fact that both parties took money from the insurance industry had big impact too.

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Thu Nov 3, 2016, 08:16 PM

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Cenk Uygur just announced he's voting for Hillary Clinton. [View all] JRLeft Nov 2016 OP

While I am glad he is voting for Hillary, he still turned many against her... sorry he is not a Demsrule86 Nov 2016 #1

Exactly ... He worked hard to get younger voters to ... JoePhilly Nov 2016 #9

Nope it won't. I can't stand the guy and will never watch his show which I used to quite often. Demsrule86 Nov 2016 #19

Message auto-removed Name removed Nov 2016 #170

Hey girl. uppityperson Nov 2016 #173

I wish I had read that. TexasTowelie Nov 2016 #206

Oh, it was good. betsuni Nov 2016 #214

I wonder which former DUer that now posts on the other site posted that? TexasTowelie Nov 2016 #215

Your signature is mesmerizing. vdogg Nov 2016 #229

Yes, TexasTowelie Nov 2016 #230

Thanks you always wonder what a poster posted (I didn't see it) Demsrule86 Nov 2016 #218

I think that person was such an angry sputtering hot baked potato that he replied to the betsuni Nov 2016 #223

Well...he sounds like he used to be one of us...and that is sad. Demsrule86 Nov 2016 #235

Anyone who says that all DU has left are "females and blacks" is a troll, betsuni Nov 2016 #240

You are right. Demsrule86 Nov 2016 #241

Young voters disliked her because of her incrementalism. JRLeft Nov 2016 #20

. NCTraveler Nov 2016 #24

+1 nt ProudProgressiveNow Nov 2016 #27

Its called getting things done. JoePhilly Nov 2016 #35

I disagree, there's comprise and then there is let's not piss off Wall Street. JRLeft Nov 2016 #46

Well .... hopefully you'll get 8 years to complain about Hillary as she gets things done ... JoePhilly Nov 2016 #99

Can you explain that statement? Please? George II Nov 2016 #145

That is unfair. Demsrule86 Nov 2016 #222

Given our divided country...there is going to have to be incrementalism...or do you Demsrule86 Nov 2016 #42

Compromise by starting far left and end up in the center instead of start negotiations JRLeft Nov 2016 #48

Fat left like no restrictions at all on abortion? that would have tanked Sanders candidacy -there's bettyellen Nov 2016 #64

No like ask for Single-Payer and settle for the public option. JRLeft Nov 2016 #68

PO was never going to pass ... that horse has been beaten to death over the last 8 years. JoePhilly Nov 2016 #102

The fact that both parties took money from the insurance industry had big impact too. JRLeft Nov 2016 #134

Lobbyists always give to both sides. JoePhilly Nov 2016 #139

Why do lobbyists always give to both sides? Cuz they want a fair fight? JCanete Nov 2016 #199

This again? A President doesn't do it all by him/herself. A President needs to get legislation.... George II Nov 2016 #150

+1 Grey Lemercier Nov 2016 #207

We were never going to get either...that was the reality. Demsrule86 Nov 2016 #224

You are kidding yourself with the Congress we have there is very little that can be Demsrule86 Nov 2016 #219

I am 22 years old that nonsense annoys me because.. JHan Nov 2016 #91

Nice post JHan. Auntie Bush Nov 2016 #133

Well stated! Fla Dem Nov 2016 #138

You are correct...how did you get to be so smart at 22? Demsrule86 Nov 2016 #220

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What they're not seeing and understanding is DemonGoddess Nov 2016 #137

That's just silly. It's called Democracy and the way progress Cha Nov 2016 #211

Young voters design castles. Hillary lays bricks. LuvLoogie Nov 2016 #234

He played and promoted the bullshit that Hillary is corrupt. Dawson Leery Nov 2016 #43

You don't believe Wall Street money influences politicians? JRLeft Nov 2016 #51

Are you saying Hillary is corrupt? Charles Bukowski Nov 2016 #67

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I guess it has no impact on republicans, right? No reason to care about dark money then. JRLeft Nov 2016 #97

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Are we saying that anybody is above it? Flatpicker Nov 2016 #153

It's not an unreasonable opinion Bradical79 Nov 2016 #69

You don't believe Wall Street is that generous do you? JRLeft Nov 2016 #84

What ruling allowed more money into politics? JoePhilly Nov 2016 #107

Wall Street is the reason why we enjoy such financial leverage in the world.. JHan Nov 2016 #110

I don't believe Hillary is corrupt. Demsrule86 Nov 2016 #225

I agree with you. Nt metroins Nov 2016 #53

well said-- indeed. I know a couple who believe his BS reporting on the Clinton Foundation Fast Walker 52 Nov 2016 #79

It's officially a bandwagon folks ! OnDoutside Nov 2016 #2

More like a "come to Jesus", I think. Barack_America Nov 2016 #4

He still believes she's too cozy with Wall Street. I agree with him, but she's better than Trump. JRLeft Nov 2016 #12

Agreed. And hence the futility of a protest vote this year. Barack_America Nov 2016 #154

A bit late...and he is still trashing her. Demsrule86 Nov 2016 #226

Eh. It's a vote and that's good...but he is still awful. n/t Lucinda Nov 2016 #3

^^This. Kahuna Nov 2016 #28

He's the Howard Stern "shock jock" of politics Dem2 Nov 2016 #5

Is that because he didn't back her 100%? JRLeft Nov 2016 #13

Nah. It's because he's a rage-a-holic Dem2 Nov 2016 #15

How many votes did he cost Sec Clinton with his nasty comments Demsrule86 Nov 2016 #23

This is silly, as usual. You can't always blame the person who talks about a person's JCanete Nov 2016 #192

This message was self-deleted by its author JCanete Nov 2016 #197

There is no'grief'...she has done nothing while elected that indicated close ties to Wall Street Demsrule86 Nov 2016 #228

what? bringing up the speeches was not a right wing attack, and would NEVER JCanete Nov 2016 #254

No. It's because he trafficked in lies. n/t musicblind Nov 2016 #250

Funny tidbit NastyWomen Nov 2016 #98

Huh Dem2 Nov 2016 #179

LOL NastyWomen Nov 2016 #181

Even David Frum is voting Hillary! GWC58 Nov 2016 #180

fuck him OKNancy Nov 2016 #6

What a POS...I did not know that. Demsrule86 Nov 2016 #25

+1 Rose Siding Nov 2016 #88

Good Call DarthDem Nov 2016 #189

Whoa. "he's not pro Hillary all the time" Ratty Nov 2016 #7

No it hasn't, he covers Trump far more. It's not his job to pretend like everything JRLeft Nov 2016 #16

All of them...go down to Breitbart and read them. Demsrule86 Nov 2016 #26

can you point to the actually false right wing talking points? That would be a problem. JCanete Nov 2016 #194

All the time? Bobbie Jo Nov 2016 #8

He's a piece of shit alcibiades_mystery Nov 2016 #10

I despise him because he's a genocide denier NobodyHere Nov 2016 #11

Actually he has a video admitting it did happen. JRLeft Nov 2016 #14

link? NobodyHere Nov 2016 #18

Cenk Uygur JRLeft Nov 2016 #39

I see he still doesn't acknowledge it NobodyHere Nov 2016 #132

Insignificant overall. He's personally responsible for suppressing more than one vote. NCTraveler Nov 2016 #21

I almost fell over dead at reading this. nt OhZone Nov 2016 #29

It's good news jzodda Nov 2016 #30

That is true...and maybe some seeing him voting for her will do the same...we can hope. Demsrule86 Nov 2016 #32

Yep! I believe we will win jzodda Nov 2016 #36

That's what he said. He also said we need support her on the good and JRLeft Nov 2016 #41

Oooh, hold her feet to the fire? mcar Nov 2016 #74

If know one holds her feet to the fire the money will win out. JRLeft Nov 2016 #78

If so-called progressives treat President H Clinton mcar Nov 2016 #86

Democrats start off compromising from the right. We have to stop doing that. JRLeft Nov 2016 #95

So get the centrists through mcar Nov 2016 #103

Mcar nailed it with this, "We need to stop letting the perfect be the enemy of the good." Native Nov 2016 #184

So-called "progressives" started beating on Obama only weeks after he took office... George II Nov 2016 #114

IIRC, they started on Inauguration Day mcar Nov 2016 #118

It got to be unbearable, which is why I left. I truly hope that doesn't happen in January, but.... George II Nov 2016 #121

Me too, George mcar Nov 2016 #125

"Obama will slash Social Security in tonight's SOTU!" emulatorloo Nov 2016 #252

Well Done, mcar! Yeah, do everything 180 degrees differently Cha Nov 2016 #188

I hate that phrase too treestar Nov 2016 #246

yes, he could influence some of his fans. riversedge Nov 2016 #61

Who? stopbush Nov 2016 #33

He's certainly not someone to go to if you're looking for facts... Bradical79 Nov 2016 #34

He knows his clientele. NCTraveler Nov 2016 #38

What you say is correct but.... jzodda Nov 2016 #40

Can you provide me with a video of him spewing propaganda? JRLeft Nov 2016 #49

Two days ago Bradical79 Nov 2016 #55

The Wikileaks emails are not propaganda. Wikileaks has a 100% JRLeft Nov 2016 #56

He also sourced Zero Hedge, for example. Bradical79 Nov 2016 #62

Was it true? What was it that he sourced? JRLeft Nov 2016 #65

Got to leave, but the video is right there. Bradical79 Nov 2016 #71

There's no link, and was it true. JRLeft Nov 2016 #85

That is true. Flatpicker Nov 2016 #155

What? mcar Nov 2016 #116

Wiki=Assange sheshe2 Nov 2016 #149

Oh? You've been keeping statistics on wikileaks? George II Nov 2016 #165

I have Charles Bukowski Nov 2016 #200

Not true Demsrule86 Nov 2016 #251

Try this, but you have to sit through an ad first: George II Nov 2016 #171

Meh... DU is emotionally/intellectually fickle at times. demmiblue Nov 2016 #37

There are things I do not like to hear, but I need to hear them. JRLeft Nov 2016 #44

With all due respect, that is nonsense... Demsrule86 Nov 2016 #52

Hear what? JRLeft Nov 2016 #54

True. The others will get their little hissy-fits out of their systems and come together... demmiblue Nov 2016 #112

He is a washed up douchebag- Zero fucks given snooper2 Nov 2016 #47

Then why did you respond to the thread? JRLeft Nov 2016 #50

So you would respond snooper2 Nov 2016 #57

LMFAO! JRLeft Nov 2016 #59

He's been an annoying shit this entire election budkin Nov 2016 #58

He's been calling out corruption on both sides. Both parties take money from special interests and JRLeft Nov 2016 #60

I appreciate you've remained respectful amidst the disapproval of Cenk. Divine Discontent Nov 2016 #70

Anybody who couldn't come to that answer months ago is simply not worthy of any consideration BlueStreak Nov 2016 #63

This exactly. You'd have to be seriously impaired not to have seen that there was no Squinch Nov 2016 #128

He's a media whore like the rest of them nini Nov 2016 #73

Doesn't sound factual. He lost his job on MSNBC for NOT towing the kind of line JCanete Nov 2016 #195

I despise him because he's a hypocritical lying pig ismnotwasm Nov 2016 #76

Too little too late. We will win regardless still_one Nov 2016 #77

Cenk lives in California Charles Bukowski Nov 2016 #80

cenk Lies and Distorts the truth.. so who wouldn't hate that? Cha Nov 2016 #209

There's a lot of foolish despising happening around here, unfortunately. elleng Nov 2016 #81

Truth no matter what? October Nov 2016 #89

Quoting the OP: elleng Nov 2016 #92

There's a difference between... JHan Nov 2016 #117

And a lot of what he espouses is bullshit. Squinch Nov 2016 #130

No arguments from me there. /nt October Nov 2016 #135

Does he still trip over his words and shoot spittle when he gets worked up? Native Nov 2016 #186

Exactly, it's bullshite so who wouldn't hate that? Cha Nov 2016 #210

This message was self-deleted by its author bluedye33139 Nov 2016 #82

Uygur was a partisan supporter of sanders...and you think he wasn't? beachbumbob Nov 2016 #83

everybody is a partisan supporter. Those who actually declare it outwardly JCanete Nov 2016 #196

That's surprising Dopers_Greed Nov 2016 #90

The guy who had been posting Flatpicker Nov 2016 #100

Cenk use to be a republcan . he was part of the problem in JI7 Nov 2016 #93

Good on him Flatpicker Nov 2016 #94

I wouldn't label it "Not pro Hillary" ToxMarz Nov 2016 #96

If Hillary has to deal with a republican senate.. JHan Nov 2016 #119

I don't think it's cluelessness Flatpicker Nov 2016 #144

Good point but... JHan Nov 2016 #161

I agree completely Flatpicker Nov 2016 #168

And what has history shown us? Have our most successful leaders been grinders or gadflies? Native Nov 2016 #187

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Seems logical that grinders are most effective given a ruling structure in which power is shared. Native Nov 2016 #191

Did I miss something? I remember him saying this months ago. RAFisher Nov 2016 #101

not that I know of Flatpicker Nov 2016 #108

He went way beyond not being 100% behind Clinton Charles Bukowski Nov 2016 #160

That's fine Flatpicker Nov 2016 #162

Are we to do cartwheels and send him money? By the way.... George II Nov 2016 #104

Yay! I guess we'll carry California now. dawg Nov 2016 #105

Interesting comments. HassleCat Nov 2016 #106

This message was self-deleted by its author Flatpicker Nov 2016 #111

He pushes peoples buttons, of that there is no doubt. Which I think are his intentions. Rex Nov 2016 #122

Sounds like it. demmiblue Nov 2016 #136

Fuck him ProudToBeBlueInRhody Nov 2016 #109

For me the yelling turds are as much media as the daily horoscope. nt fleabiscuit Nov 2016 #113

This sounds a lot like rehashing of the primaries and oh so subtle passive aggressive digs.. nini Nov 2016 #156

Yes, it does. betsuni Nov 2016 #163

yes Dem2 Nov 2016 #174

Really? It took this incredible ass this long? What a surprise! NNadir Nov 2016 #159

I imagine some people around here are going to lose their shit when they have.. aidbo Nov 2016 #175

He was cozy with Bernie upaloopa Nov 2016 #178

so are most sane people ibegurpard Nov 2016 #182

Fuck him. D23MIURG23 Nov 2016 #193

Stupid level of hatred on this board, and barely an ounce of graciousness. JCanete Nov 2016 #198

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I too am tired of demonizing people. lovemydog Nov 2016 #205

Good! UCmeNdc Nov 2016 #213

Gee, that's big of him lillypaddle Nov 2016 #216

Here is the link Helen Borg Nov 2016 #217

No, we despise him because he's a Republican grifting dumb progressives and pushing GOP agendas. BobbyDrake Nov 2016 #231

Cenk is one of the many examples forjusticethunders Nov 2016 #232

Wow! He can just order millions of people around like that! Helen Borg Nov 2016 #236

the problem with your argument is that "Cenk Uygur" and "intelligent debate" are opposites. BobbyDrake Nov 2016 #247

Yeah Gothmog Nov 2016 #237

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