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In reply to the discussion: This country will absolutely NOT elect a self-described socialist. Sanders would be slaughtered. [View all]Orrex
(63,297 posts)330. Sanders' supporters want it both ways
Last edited Sun Sep 27, 2015, 10:01 AM - Edit history (1)
They insist that 2016 is just like 2008 and entirely unlike 2008.
The nation isn't desperate for a change?
Sure, but not the one that you're thinking of. In 2008, voters were desperate for a change away from the Republican Whitehouse regime, which helped to mobilize Obama's supporters. Will 2016 show a similar anti-Whitehouse sentiment that will also benefit Sanders? Is Obama hated by Democratic voters to the same degree that they hated Bush? You're hoping that the hatred (which doesn't exist) will rally Sanders' supporters (which it wouldn't). If anything, that hatred will bring Republican voters out in droves to quash the legacy of Obama's presidency, and if they can keep the socialist out of office through the same hatred, so much the better for them.
But if Hillary wins and loses the GE who will you blame?...those Sanders supporters no doubt.
Well, it depends, doesn't it? If Sanders' supporters irresponsibly stay home on election night and thereby hand the election to the Republican, then yes of course they'll be blamed, and rightly so.
But if Sanders' supporters instead recognize what's at stake with this election, then they'll turn out to vote even if they're not thrilled about it. If Sanders doesn't win the nomination, do you think that he'll pout and refuse to vote? Or do you think he'll accept reality and do the right thing? Perhaps I have more faith in your candidate than you do?
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This country will absolutely NOT elect a self-described socialist. Sanders would be slaughtered. [View all]
RBInMaine
Sep 2015
OP
if you like him enough but have this notion he can't be elected then you want the lesser to
roguevalley
Sep 2015
#300
An example of the hatred of the Right Wing is demostrated by their attacks on Clinton.
olegramps
Sep 2015
#88
I don'lt think they'd campaign against Sanders any more aggressively than any other Dem
Armstead
Sep 2015
#128
They couldn't beat a black, Muslim, Kenyan, socialist, fascist, inexperienced, evil,
Ed Suspicious
Sep 2015
#158
No fear. Just reality on the planet Earth. Explain how a "socialist" wins the election? Can you?
RBInMaine
Sep 2015
#297
watch him. also, define socialist as you see it. I laughed when I asked others. They
roguevalley
Sep 2015
#302
...and all those complaints about Bernie Sanders AREN'T attempts to discourage voting?
brooklynite
Sep 2015
#235
Because no one can see thirteen months into the fucking future, Brooklynite.
Scootaloo
Sep 2015
#288
we've gone back to "unelectable" from "his supporters are ruining twitter"
Warren DeMontague
Sep 2015
#294
You are living on Pluto if you think a self declared socialist can win the general election.
RBInMaine
Sep 2015
#296
Explain why. How can you read the minds of the voting population? You don't have a clue.
YOHABLO
Sep 2015
#317
Well you aren't even in this galaxy if you can't see the support he already has garnered
cui bono
Sep 2015
#325
This country will absolutely NOT elect an African-American or Catholic
left-of-center2012
Sep 2015
#5
When one is that far Right of Center, Bernie would seem to be Left Wing, instead of in tune with
-none
Sep 2015
#52
The majority of Americans don't even know who Bernie Sanders is let alone what his positions are.
upaloopa
Sep 2015
#53
the more people get to know him, the more they like him AND his positions
virtualobserver
Sep 2015
#65
So let's have some more televised Debates so they cna make an informed choice...
Tommymac
Sep 2015
#131
If only there was a forum, where he could get his issues out there for people to hear..
frylock
Sep 2015
#239
I think some mean girls wandered in her to waaa about how they don't get respect. They
roguevalley
Sep 2015
#307
"USELESS WHITE SUPREMACIST LIBERALS" and "RACISTS" came from HILLARY supporters, NOT Bernie
in_cog_ni_to
Sep 2015
#95
So now you can target the DU members who post there who target the DU members who post here..
frylock
Sep 2015
#240
that came straight out of your behind. Nice try though. Having a pity party site is your thing,
roguevalley
Sep 2015
#308
Add spousal abuse to the list of things to associate Sanders supporters with..
frylock
Sep 2015
#263
You're comparison equating internet shit talk to spousal abuse was fucking disgusting..
frylock
Sep 2015
#273
murielm99, what a laugh you gave me. You worry about us targeting people over there.
roguevalley
Sep 2015
#306
Yes, I know exactly who it is and I'm glad they have a new stomping ground
in_cog_ni_to
Sep 2015
#99
Head counts at rallies don't mean shit. It's like you think those people can vote twice or
upaloopa
Sep 2015
#57
you seem to hate liberals and lefties. what an astonishing thing to say if you are a dem.
roguevalley
Sep 2015
#309
If you are correct, then I don't understand why the polls show her well ahead of Bernie?
olegramps
Sep 2015
#79
You are not only rude, but also it is evidently you should work on your reading comprehension.
olegramps
Sep 2015
#236
Get back to me after Super Tuesday. Republicans don't vote in most Democratic Primaries.
upaloopa
Sep 2015
#102
Our "bubble" grows everyday. Hillary's is shrinking everyday. It can happen.
Dustlawyer
Sep 2015
#85
You didn't notice that red states passed increases in minimum wage at the same time--
eridani
Sep 2015
#322
Income inequality is the easy one. Everyone bullshits about that. Bernie talks wealth inequality.
merrily
Sep 2015
#44
Looky here, baby. The slaughter has already started. Just ask tens of millions of working Americans
jtuck004
Sep 2015
#10
FDR did some remarkable things, but he is also accedited with saving capitalism from itself.
olegramps
Sep 2015
#75
And in reality that's what Sanders is seeking to do. He is not nearly as red as some people would
Ed Suspicious
Sep 2015
#199
I absolutely agree. He isn't about to blowup the entire economic system. He isn't nuts.
olegramps
Sep 2015
#237
It's hip to want a fire department run by the government not contracted out
Rosa Luxemburg
Sep 2015
#121
Truth has a sort of naturally inherent ferocity. You'll need to excuse us for beating them over the
Ed Suspicious
Sep 2015
#202
Most Hillary supporters slinked away after being called out on their bullshit..
frylock
Sep 2015
#248
He's absolutely drawing massive crowds and enthusiasm in states across the nation. nt
LWolf
Sep 2015
#18
The entire US ain't NY or Maryland or the state of any candidate for POTUS either.
merrily
Sep 2015
#92
They said the same thing about FDR and the New Deal. They called him a Bolshevik.
leveymg
Sep 2015
#30
I think you just flipped the script. You are 180 degrees wrong on the personality thing.
Ed Suspicious
Sep 2015
#213
If the country hates Sanders so damn much, he won't be the nominee. Non-existent problem solved.
merrily
Sep 2015
#111
Millions upon millions of people in the US are fed up with it all. I can certainly see your
RKP5637
Sep 2015
#39
Reality Check: “Working families like mine don't give a damn about Bernie being a socialist".......
global1
Sep 2015
#42
Yep, my thoughts too. As he is seen more by those that might not follow any of this, I think there
RKP5637
Sep 2015
#49
Hillary supporters said the same think about Obama because wink wink nudge nudge.
alphafemale
Sep 2015
#43
If one believes that an underfunded Candidate Sanders will not be the subject of a massive mass
Fred Sanders
Sep 2015
#58
I think they're trying to assure themselves more than anyone else that Sanders is unelectable..
frylock
Sep 2015
#249
correct - then say goodbye to the supreme court for another generation, the aca , the epa, the cfpb
saturnsring
Sep 2015
#63
If Senator Sanders becomes the Democratic nominee for POTUS will you vote or stay home?
R. Daneel Olivaw
Sep 2015
#73
Yep, and similar numbers in Gallups poll in June. Bernie is a non Starter.
stevenleser
Sep 2015
#150
This country has spent the last 50 years demonizing socialism and propping capitalism.
RichVRichV
Sep 2015
#212
If the Kochs spend $300 million on attack ads using the term socialist the term will be radioactive
Gothmog
Sep 2015
#218
If the Kochs spend 300 million on attack ads using the term Benghazi the Hillary will be radioactive
frylock
Sep 2015
#267
If the Kochs spen! $300 million on attack ads against socialism it will be a drop in the bucket
RichVRichV
Sep 2015
#344
you folks just do not realize what a red meat buzz word socialist is..ya just don't get it
dembotoz
Sep 2015
#76
I would never insinuate anything so tawdry. However, what moves an infrequent poster--in this case
merrily
Sep 2015
#164
Whereas I think of the technical systems that persist that cookie for years at a time
MoveIt
Sep 2015
#166
Are you sure you're on the right website? Right-wing memes generally don't fly here.
Comrade Grumpy
Sep 2015
#228
Absolutely! And I'm sure that's why Debbie Downer is limiting the number of debates.
jalan48
Sep 2015
#109
Let me get this straight. They won't vote for a democratic socialist who loves America, but
Ed Suspicious
Sep 2015
#132
The sad Irony of this OP is that it will be lost on those who need to take it in the most
stevenleser
Sep 2015
#136
Nope, Clinton is polling ahead of the GOP candidates despite everything they have
stevenleser
Sep 2015
#170
Hillary has a strong chance. Sanders has no chance. And we know that for sure
stevenleser
Sep 2015
#276
Your anonymous one-off debunks nothing, certainly not a properly conducted national poll
stevenleser
Sep 2015
#144
You facilitate the rightward push in this country when you legitimize this hogwash.
Ed Suspicious
Sep 2015
#145
wish he would of created a public owned 'something' so Americans can see some socialism in action
Sunlei
Sep 2015
#178
It could well be ready...And the GOP phones will be active no matter who the candidate is
Armstead
Sep 2015
#221
This country will absolutely NOT elect a black man. Obama would be slaughtered.
The Velveteen Ocelot
Sep 2015
#206
The liberals are blocking the socialists and blaming it on the conservatives
Cheese Sandwich
Sep 2015
#215
Anyone notice that the OP's author hasn't bothered to defend his argument at all?
cheapdate
Sep 2015
#280
Your fears are duly noted. I will vote for Bernie anyway because I believe your analysis is wrong
peacebird
Sep 2015
#292
Because I make a statement and voice an opinion I'm "worried." Good grief, get real.
RBInMaine
Sep 2015
#295
some people seem to spend an awful lot of time in GD-P trying to convince Sanders supporters that
Warren DeMontague
Sep 2015
#299