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NuttyFluffers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-27-04 08:26 PM
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17. You are quite right, in fact gov't agencies agree with you (in a way)
visit the CDC, NIAA, NDIS(?), and countless other federal institutions that have several studies and intimate data of the results of these drugs. most of the information they produce show that the most safe class of drugs, both metabolically and in terms of physical and psychological addiction, are hallucinogens.

few dangerous mixings (completely unlike alcohol -- the most dangerous to mix with), generally safe to the liver and kidneys (they process out quickly), generally not addictive, and with proper precautions (hydration, proper environment -- like not atop a skyscraper surrounded by sharp metal objects, and preventative measures to ease the 'down time' -- the flood of dopamine) can be incredibly safe. far more so than alcohol has ever been, easily.

most of the scare tactics are blatant lies. some of them talk about people who had 20 tablet a day habits -- which is the equivalent of 20x the amount you'd drink of alcohol to get drunk (if you did that with alcohol you'd just up and die, with this, you just get 'holes on your brain' -- you figure which is more dangerous). some use studies where they inject several hundred times the human dosage *into rats* and call that conclusive evidence (which is the equivalent of a human taking several 1000x the amount). there's already been one major researcher (who is still oft quoted) in MDMA who's methodology has already been shown as faulty and dliberately slanted. and far too often we've had MDMA-similar drugs (the 'mimics') blamed for things that MDMA *cannot* cause. most of the info dumped on 'the teevee ads' is utter garbage. in fact, most of the fed gov'ts agencies directly contradict them, which makes it all the funnier.

i'm also interested in the uses of MDMA in Parkinson's patients. it seems that parkinson's is related to an over-production of serotonin which cannot convert into dopamine. this lack of dopamine and oversaturation of serotonine causes the muscles to continuously spasm uncontrollably, diminishing quality of life. they've noticed MDMA's remarkable ability to not only dump serotonin into the muscles to produce a euphoric effect, but also a fascinating effect of forcing the brain to convert serotonin that has been used into dopamine. essentially they are seeing MDMA create positive change in the lives in parkinson's sufferers by emptying out some of that serotonin and converting it into much needed dopamine. there still needs to be more studies on MDMA for this use, but it looks rather promising.

ps: as long as you stay hydrated and cool, and pace your intake of MDMA with gaps of several days to recover your serotonin, you're pretty much safe. if so many stupid people would actually test their 'candy from strangers' to make sure it isn't mixed with poison, and if they didn't drink alcohol with it (alcohol + anything is pretty stupid. very dangerous drug to mix), and if clubs wouldn't charge eye gouging prices for water ($10 for a bottle of water should be a crime, imho) then you wouldn't have all these boogeyman stories to feed the mindless, ravenous media to feed to the ignorant masses.
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