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Kelvin Mace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-22-06 02:12 PM
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101. As they say, "follow the money"
David Allen as "Kelvin Mace" said:

Is there a reason you keep sticking my name up? Anyone who wishes to find out who I am can do so in 2-3 clicks. Making a point of it seems to have some ulterior reason. Should I expect an attack from Bev's goon squad? Will Jim March show up on my door step with his big, bad gun?

Sorry Brad, you are a Bev apologist. You post stories about her while ignoring the SERIOUS questions about her ethics and actions. You defend her here and claim that attempts to question her actions amount to aiding and abetting the enemy.

But as I said, let's follow the money.

Bev draws a salary ($60,000 a year) and has received a substantial payout from her law suit (about $70,000). She has taken in over $1 million dollars in donations that we know of in BBV's first year. No reason to assume that this hasn't continued on track, so we are talking about several million and change at least.

Bev promised to donate her qui tam winnings to BBV. No evidence that ever happened. She promised to post proof she did donate the money. Never happened.

Bev promised to account for all this money, and have a CPA audit the books and render her IRS Form 990. Never happened. The 990 was WAY late, and was WAY bogus. BASIC MATH ERRORS are on the form. One person signed the form, but Bev's name appears above the signature.

Bev has failed, nay, she has REFUSED to account for the money she has been given. She has told lie after lie about the status of her books. And during all of this time what legislation has she spearheaded? The one bill she originally supported, she now opposes (she has for HB-550 before she was against it).

The one guy who is chiefly responsible for her qui tam law suit is pleading guilty to a felony. Yet if Bev had REALLY wanted to protect him, all she had to do was make him a party to the law suit. Now the law suit has been settled WITH PREJUDICE and we are back at square one. BBV still rampant in California.

Now let's look at another activist, Joyce McCloy (who garners 15 mentions on your site versus Bev's 376). Joyce asked for an received no money, draws no salary, and has not had any dealings with Freepers, gun nuts, nor hounded anyone on their death bed.

She was pivotal in getting the nation's toughest anti-BBV law on the books in my state. While not perfect, it certainly affords greater protections to voters and harsher penalties to vendors. She fought two court cases with the help of the EFF (an organization Bev has attacked as financially motivated)

What is the result? Diebold left the state rather than comply with the law. 70% of our counties have OpScan, and the counties that use TS, MUST produce a VVPB. Any discrepancy between the digital and the paper count, and the paper count is the official count.

All of this done without asking for a single penny of anyone's money.

As you know, since you and I've tried to discuss this with you privately via both phone and email, I feel that all such public squabbling serves only to harm the EI movement. I have taken my concerns to you privately (apparently to little effect) as I have taken my concerns with her actions at various times to her privately as well. If you bother to look into such things, you'd learn that quite quickly.

Yes, but you attack me PUBLICLY. And please do not claim Bev doesn't attack me public, she certainly does, has done so repeatedly. I have confined my criticisms of her predominantly to this web site, whereas I have been attacked by Bev here, on her site, on Daily Kos and elsewhere.

Sorry, you can't claim we are both at fault, then chastise me publicly, but her privately. Doesn't wash.

Where is your heated public condemnation for Bev's actions on this, or any other site?

You call my remarks bullshit, but my opinion is my opinion, and people can make up their own minds.

But the facts aren't bullshit.

What she did to Andy is a fact.

Her attacks on anti-BBV activists, academics, and journalists like Keith Olberman are facts.

Her lying about filing a qui tam is fact.

Her accusing other people of filing qui tams (when they weren't) is fact.

Her lying about my never paying her is a fact.

Her changing her book to downplay other's efforts and work is fact.

Her anti-Clinton money-making scheme is fact.

Her lies about how her book was put together are fact.

Her failure to account for BBV donations is fact.

Her posting a completely bogus document is fact.

Her failure to have a CPA do her books as she claimed is fact.

Do I need to go on? At what point does the volume of her lies and treachery reach a point where you say "ENOUGH!"

My guess is that you will finally have enough the day she turns on you.
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