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Maclilly Donating Member (97 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 04:05 PM
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5. here is another
We've gone on for two days now

Wow Phil. Good for you on your education. Too bad you don't apply your
econimic mind to humanitarian issues. The ONLY reason the Repubs funded the
VA is because Senator Murray shamed them on the Senate floor for
shortfunding it. Of course then Santorum tried to save face and stood on
the Floor of the Senate and apologized for not listenting to the Dems and
FUNDING THE VA. Maybe you haven't had problems at the VA (yet) but I know
many who have. I live in Everett WA in a very military area and those
coming home are getting screwed out of benefits at the VA. If They didn't
lose a limb, they get to the back of the line and have to wait over 6
months. I know that because I live in it. Not because anyone tells me.

As for calling Cindy names, listen to Gallagher's radio show, Limpball,
Hannity, Snow, Brian Suits. They have called her every name in the book on
radio. I have read posts from Freepers on many sites calling this woman
every name they can think of. Last night some Republican yelled Yee-ha and
ran over the crosses set up to memorialize the fallen soldiers in this war.
Amazingly, on Fox this morning they showed it and the father of a fallen
soldier who was crying that his son's memory was so hatefully destroyed.
That father by the way was the one that came down with the Bush supporters.
He spent over an hour with Cindy and ended the meeting crying WITH her over
their losses

Cindy wants answers this administration has not responded to. The media
won't ask. They are scared to lose access. Don't you wonder why the
reasons for war keep changing? Yesterday, Bush Admin says they are lowering
expections for Iraq. What did we fight for? An Islamic State? Another
enemy along side Iran? You are aware that the Iraq Parliament signed a deal
with Iran to get military training last month?" 168 members of that new
body also wrote and signed a letter demanding that we withdraw. What
happened to Wolfowitz "This won't cost more than $5bill." Rumsfeld, "I
can't imagine this will last 6 days, 6 weeks no more than 6 months." These
are their own words. Every general who spoke out that this was not the
right way to go was trashed. And now every one of them has been proven
right. Do you not read about this stuff? I don't hear about it on TV. I
work from home and watch C-SPAN where I have seen the Senate Intelligence
Committee ask Rumsfeld direct questions and he does not respond. He turns
in blank papers. His General contradict him right in front of the
Committee. So what gives.

Cindy's question is "What is the Noble Cause my Son Died For? " Too much
new information has come to light that contradicts what was known whe she
met with him last year. That is why she is there. And in case you aren't
aware, so are over 2 dozen other mothers of fallen soldiers to this war. To
call her names and say she is a publicity slut is just wrong.

Anyway, we obviously don't agree and will have to agree to disagree. {Your
children may be above my poor secound grade education but thoes new
killers in charge will never let them use it.} What new killers? It's it
your president that is the killer. The Republicans run all branches of
Government so who are you referring to?
Good luck to you.



----- Original Message -----
From: "phillip morrison" <wizzardshouse@charter.net>
To: "Lillian Kaufer" <mac.lilly@verizon.net>
Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2005 5:52 AM
Subject: Re: GOD BLESS AMERICA


>I hold two degrees one a BS in Ecom and a BA in history. Strange but having
>an education , unlike you, did not place me above others or close my mind.
>I fought my war and VA is very special to me and yes I am unhappy about the
>funding but they just gave the VA a billion $ more to correct the
>underfunding problem.You need to stay up to date if you want to keep above
>the rest of the people.
>
> Don't ever tell me about how I feel about our troops.You did not earn that
> right nor will you ever have that right.
>
> The poor lady lost a son and for that I am truly sorry, but in my openion
> she is being used by the extream left .I also think she knows it and loves
> the fame. She lies and destorts the facts. now she is trying to clear up
> the Jewesh problem. give me a break. She was called none of the names you
> say she was it simply did not happen and is a lie and a destoriton of the
> facts. When the right or left destorts and lies it is wrong and they
> should be called on it. in this case you allow the lady first ammendent
> rights but not any one else that same right. To try to step on thoes
> rights you repeat lies about waht the visit was all about and what was
> said.I am not an extermest but rather my mind is not closed by hatered
>
> I guess your closed mind can't grasp the truth as your hatered for a
> persident is so great you can't see anything..your mind is closed and
> another thought couldn't open it with a sledge hammed. If you accepted
> another idea or truth you whole life would be in ruin.. Continue to feel
> you are the only educated person that has the right to an openion and only
> hear the sound of your own voice driven by uninformed hatered , you are
> doomed to become a killer of your own country.
>
> Your children may be above my poor secound grade education but thoes new
> killers in charge will never let them use it.
>
> Sorry a mind is a terrable thing to waste.
>
> phil
>
>
> +
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Lillian Kaufer" <mac.lilly@verizon.net>
> To: "phillip morrison" <wizzardshouse@charter.net>
> Sent: Sunday, August 14, 2005 7:15 PM
> Subject: Re: GOD BLESS AMERICA
>
>
>> You really are a disgrace to this nation. Don't tell me, your a
>> Christian.
>> You not only spell like a 2nd grader, you write like one too. There is
>> nothing wrong with being educated. Obviously, education is not a
>> priority
>> to you. The hate seeps through your email. Did you join the other 22
>> idiots in Crawford to protest Cindy and chant "We don't care"? It's
>> obvious
>> you don't care. You don't care that our VA is underfunded by over
>> $1billion. You don't care that our soldiers still don't have armored
>> vehicles, rifle scopes or night vision goggles. No, you don't care. You
>> can claim to support the Troops but your actions and the actions of the
>> Republican controlled government show that none of you care about our
>> soldiers. Just a bunch of lip service. Keep calling the mother of a
>> dead
>> soldier a socialist pig, an ignorant media whore, publicity slut. I have
>> heard all your buddy hate radio guys call her every name in the book.
>> You
>> people are an embarassment to this country. Why don't you take your own
>> advice and listen and learn more than what your right wing hate radio
>> says.
>> Try reading a history book. Try reading papers from out of the country
>> who
>> are reporting what our so called "liberal media" reports.
>>
>> FYI, I supported this war after 9-11. I supported Bush after 9-11. It
>> wasn't until after the first year that I learned what was going on behind
>> the scenes. More and more evidence keeps coming to light about Bush and
>> his
>> cronies. More and more of what he and his administration does not pass
>> the
>> smell test. Maybe you could open your eyes and at least consider that
>> not
>> all the liberals say are lies.
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "phillip morrison" <wizzardshouse@charter.net>
>> To: "Lillian Kaufer" <mac.lilly@verizon.net>
>> Sent: Monday, August 15, 2005 7:08 PM
>> Subject: Re: GOD BLESS AMERICA
>>
>>
>>> SORRY YOU ELIETES MORON I WAS TRYING TO WRITE DOWN TO YOUR LEVEL.
>>> SPELLING
>>> IN THIS INSTANCE IS PEARLS BEFOR SWINE.
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Lillian Kaufer" <mac.lilly@verizon.net>
>>> To: "phillip morrison" <wizzardshouse@charter.net>
>>> Sent: Sunday, August 14, 2005 11:35 AM
>>> Subject: Re: GOD BLESS AMERICA
>>>
>>>
>>> > Who the fuck is this? First, learn to spell you redneck moron.
>>> > Sheehan
>>> > speaks for herself, you righties just can't stand a woman who stands
>>> > on
>>> > her
>>> > own. Turn off your Hate Radio and Read sometime.
>>> > ----- Original Message -----
>>> > From: "phillip morrison" <wizzardshouse@charter.net>
>>> > To: <mac.lilly@verizon.net>
>>> > Sent: Monday, August 15, 2005 10:23 AM
>>> > Subject: GOD BLESS AMERICA
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >> YOU ARE AN IDIOT. ALL PEOPLE HAVE A FIRST AMMENDEMENT RIGHT TO SPEEK.
>> IF
>>> >> SHEEAN WASN'T CONTROLLED AND USED BY THE HARD LEFT I WOULD SAY GOOD
>>> >> FOR
>>> > HER
>>> >> SHE DOES HER SON DISHONER BY HER LYING AND WHO CONTROLLS HER. MY
>>> >> FAMILE
>>> > HAS
>>> >> SERVED IN EVERY WAR THIS COUNTRY HAS FOUGHT AND WE HAVE HAD DEATH AND
>>> > HORNOR
>>> >> IN MY FAMILY EVEN BEFOR THE REVEOLUTION OF 1776 AND WILL HAVE THE
>>> >> SAME
>>> >> IN
>>> >> THE FUTURE.
>>> >> I WILL DEFEND TO THE DEATH YOUR RIGHT TO SAY WHAT YOU WILL BUT FOR
>>> >> GOD
>>> > SAKES
>>> >> I CAN'T HELP YOUR UNINFORMED INGORANCE. READ ,HEAR AND LEARN MORE
>>> >> THAN
>>> > JUST
>>> >> WHAT THE LEFT SAYS THERE ARE BIGGER THINGS AT STEAK HERE.
>>> >>
>>> >
>>>
>>
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