Reply #44: My my, how quickly we forget our history [View All]

[MadHound]

Look at Vietnam, we followed the policies that you suggested there, and look what happened.

Look friend, it doesn't matter what we do, when we pull out, as soon as we leave, there is going to be chaos and civil war. Any government, no matter how democratic, no matter how much it is brought into being by the Iraqi people, is going to be considered illegit and illegal by the people at large there simply due to the fact that it was brought into power under the auspices of America. Thus, it is going to be torn down when we leave. All of our efforts to bring stability and order to the Iraqis is going to be for naught, because we are establishing stability and order with the barrel of a gun. As soon as that gun is taken away from the equation, Iraq is going to explode. We can't prevent it, we can't stop it, all that we can do is one of two things. Keep on with what we're doing in a futile effort to stabilize the country and ME as a whole, thus bringing about more death and destruction to a country already wracked with despair. Or pull out now, thus saving those lives, and pay back massive reparations as a token of our repentance. Either option still means that we're going to see chaos and civil war in Iraq when we're gone, but at least with the second option we will prevent even more death and destruction, and will show the world that we are apoligetic and contrite.

As far as saving face goes, well that's left the building long ago when we illegally and immorally invaded a virtually defenseless country in order to steal their oil. We are already a pariah nation in many eyes, pulling out now with massive reparations is one of the few things we can do in order to start rebuilding our reputation.