Reply #141: DKOS Komentator Kritisizes KOS, Then Recants: This is just AWFUL! [View All]

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DKOS Komentator Kritisizes KOS, Then Recants: This is just AWFUL!

I learned a great deal from this thread and thank those of you who expanded my horizons. First, while this was posted, 89% of Americans in a poll came out for the right to protest. Watch Bush, watch Bush fall, watch Bush fall again in the polls.

I also learned that I just scratched the surface in my observations of DKOS.

Take a look at these two posts by Diarist kid Oakland. Post one is a harsh criticism of the “KOS Kult of Personality” and neocons positions. Just a day later, the poor “kid” is groveling in public, can’t say he’s sorry enough.

This is amazing stuff.

this blog is your blog
by kid oakland
Thu Aug 25th, 2005 at 18:35:52 EDT

I don't know what made Markos decide to post his "war pragamatist" post, but it does mean a couple of things as far as I'm concerened.

<snip>

The idea that this is "Markos blog" is bad politics.

It's bad politics for two reasons:
• a community blog should belong to its community, not to one person. that is especially true for a blog this large and important.
• Markos is a poor leader, who has made poor choices, often involving behind the scenes stuff that none of us see. His complete lack of accountability in this regard is a liability to the very causes he seems to espouse..and to whatever "progressive blogging" is supposed to mean.

It's time for someone from the inside to call Markos on his shit.

After years of posting anti-war pieces on his website...kos chose last Tuesday to go "Rush Limbaugh" on us..at a time when the most powerful anti-war protest of our lifetime is in full force.
Now, it's not that we didn't know that Markos was, in his own words, a "military hawk". We all knew that. What we didn't know was that he would sell out his "not-as-hawk-as-kos" anti-war allies with utter public contempt...even as Cindy Sheehan, a diarist here, was preparing to go back to Crawford.

Think about that. It fits a pattern.
• Markos pushed an insider attack on Donna Brazile just as the Dean chairmanship of the DNC came up.
• Markos attacked "women's studies" folks just as selling advertising to other blogs came on line.
• Markos attacked NARAL just as the Roberts nomination came front and center.

I don't just blame Markos for this state of affairs. I blame his "blog brothers" who've seen this go down and have helped strategize it, or...who have simply watched without doing a thing even though they disagreed. When will you speak up? What point is "too much"?

<snip>

This blog is your blog. It has been for a good long time now. In my view, it's high time for folks to start acting like it

http://dailykos.com/storyonly/2005/8/25/183553/544
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and there were consequences that we can only imagine for kid Oakland,
or did he just do an 8th step in record time?

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apologies
by kid oakland
Sat Aug 27th, 2005 at 00:44:10 EDT

I'd like to apologize to kos, to kossacks and to the readers here for letting you all down with that diary yesterday.

If I was going to be critical, I should have done it:

a) more constructively
b) more respectfully, of kos, and of you all.

I've read your comments and tried to make considered responses to as many as I could. But at this point, taking the weight of the criticism, the respect I have for the voices expressing it and the general view of how my piece was taken...as an unfair screed full of insinuations that many folks took as implying dirty secrets...
implications of dirty secrets that, in fact, I have zero knowledge of...

it's pretty clear I fucked up.

I'm human. I was angry and fed up, and still am. I bashed when I should have chilled and thought it out more.

<snip>

I'm sorry for that. I regret it. And I apologize to you all, and to Markos specifically, for that diary.

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2005/8/27/04410/6409
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They must have one nasty back room at that blog.

There are admin-user conflicts at any forum but at DU, they are kept
strictly private. No public groveling required orallowed.

This public groveling at KOS is positively embarassing.

:wtf: