Reply #46: It is called "blaming the victim." [View All]

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You continue to do it with your absurd first paragraph.

"It's not a strawman for me to draw conclusions. I was talking there about what I believe, not anything that YOU had said. no strawmen at all. I didn't set up ANY false position on your side."

It was a strawmen, Ken. You create a "position" for me, act as if I were the one who held such, then 'squash' it as not appropriate.

"Have you ever condemned the settlers for their relentless anti-Palestinian bigotry? Will you ever do so? You never have in these threads. Have you ever condemned further settlement construction? Why do you not condemn it here? And why do you not condemn the Israeli government for using the settlement project to try to make any Palestinian state as small and unsustainable as possible? You should do that here. Why don't you? These are sincere and legitimate questions."

Again, making up shit, claiming it is my position, then demanding my answer to something you already answered. Why don't you let me make statements about my positions when I so chose and barring that you do NOT get to decide what I do and don't support/condemn/approve of in any given situation.

"A Palestinian saying the "J-word" is a bad choice. No one can seriously believe that it's worse than anything the IDF and the settlers do to Palestinians."

Strawman.

"Look at the U.S.

We are hardly perfect, yet we do have a lot less oppression here than in much of the world. We also have(with exceptions)a good-deal less bigotry than other places. If we had no oppression at all, if everyone had economic security and the knowledge that it would always be there and also the knowledge that there was little likelihood of war, there'd be little if any liklihood of anyone expressing bigotry. Bigotry is a product of misery. That's why, when the European social welfare states were at their heights and those countries had something close to full-employment economies, there was much less bigotry there than there is now."

Care to prove any of this or pretend it is fact without substantiation?