Reply #64: so you believe in the "all or nothing" viewpoint.... [View All]

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so clarify, from what i take from your point of view....its all or nothing, there is no room for small steps. Israel has to vacate everything, before the PA/hamas has to react with anything other than trying to kill israelis

that is EXACTLY what you are claiming...which directly contradicts the "confidence building measures" mantra.



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if you want a more reasonable, more serious reaction to intl relations, just look at egypt and jordan.....

with the peace with egypt:
egypt also forbids all professionals to work with israelis
egypt also in its govt controlled newspapers constantly attack israel
egypt has no tourist in israel, etc
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jordan has a peace agreement with israel
jordan also forbids its professionals to work with their israeli counterparts.
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obviously not perfect but, hardly a "all or nothing" mentality as what appears to be your point of view.

I think what we are going to discover with the discussion if it continues is that despite the various "mantras" regularly mentioned here, we're going to discover that you all expect israel to vacate everything, the PA/etc have to offer nothing in return no matter what israel does and what comes after that is simply irrelevant. (and that is the key disagreement....what comes after, which is crucial to israelis and of no real consequences to most others-the events happening around the arab world shows the folly of such naivety.