Reply #8: The problem I have is not with the position of the DLC, it is with [View All]

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its leadership. From et al want to rely entirely on the Clinton people - that is, Bill Clinton's advisors, media people, etc. back in '92 and '96 - to get things done, and it doesn't work; we've lost three consecutive elections, it just doesn't work.

I don't think that the centrist wing of the DNC is necessarily such a bad thing, but the DLC is not the vehicle to carry that centrist vision and those ideals forward. They have no real plan, but they CAN boast about all the members there are in the New Democrat Coalition. All DLCers should take a look at the New Democrat Network - both committed to the middle ground of Democratic politics, but the Rosenberg, the president of NDN, is a good guy, who understands what we need to win (e.g., the NDN's Hispanic Project: http://www.newdem.org/hispanicproject). I've found members of NDN to be far more willing to accept ideas like Howard Dean for DNC, because, even if they don't agree with all his politics, they're more reform-minded than the DLC.

It's not a question of centrist vs. progressive, it's a question of whether or not the current centrist structure (the DLC) wants to move forwards or backwards. I don't see any indication that they want to move forward.