Reply #141: I disagree with your advice frankly [View All]

[Catrina]

and will continue to use my own judgement as to what I decide is credible or not. Everything needs to be assessed.

'This stuff is probably wrong. Even if it's right, it's far too easy to refute. I just did.'

No, what you did was to raise a question about it. And in fact contradicted yourself by saying first 'even if it's right' and 'this stuff is PROBABLY wrong' ~ certainly not absolute statements. But then your absolute statement ''it's far too easy to refute. I just did'. Not meaning to be rude, but you admit yourself that you did not, what you did was TRY. Had you said 'I tried to refute it and may have convinced some people of the unreliability of this 'stuff', your position would be more acceptable.

Even as someone who knows little about this subject, although I am learning fast, as are many Americans now, I can see huge holes in the 'Republicans are shy' argument. Where's the proof first of all? And without proof, what I have to go on is just as believable, our own experience with Republicans, family members, friends, adversaries.

Republicans, especially righwingers, are not only not shy, their operatives seek out opportunities to skew the results of polls their way. Logically it makes ZERO SENSE to say that the same people who will miss NO opportunity that can be used to their advantage, suddenly become shy when a golden opportunity to affect the exit poll results is presented to them. Why this argument is even entertained, is laughable actually. And even if it were true, it was easily corrected, wasn't it? So, why was it not?


With no disrespect intended Febble, mainly due to the fact that it was so easily refuted, your argument is weak at best.

All material needs to be evaluated and tested, including this. I do believe now that we are getting closer to the truth as more and more Americans are becoming aware that their votes may be stolen.

When the American people get involved, they won't want to hear nuanced arguments such as yours. They will demand facts, machines confiscated and taken apart, source codes revealed etc. etc. This has already happened and unlike previous elections, I believe may be successful this time. It's hard when the people are involved and not just a few activists. The activists are not alone in this anymore. They have a growing, shocked and angry populace behind their demands now.

The only reason this subject (not even open for discussion on so-called Progressive boards to their shame) has not caused riots in this country is because it has been suppressed. The media now has little choice but to cover it. Americans on the whole are very impatient. Once alerted to a problem they want answers right away. They can be maddeningly oblivious for a while, but when they wake up, watch out.

I believe that election fraud will be revealed very shortly in this country, and the response to it will not be pretty. Anyone who attempted to cover it up will need to run for cover. Despite appearances, we do take our Democracy very, very seriously here.