Reply #51: Yes, I made it, feel free to try to make one, yourself. [View All]

[joshcryer]

We've been over this, I think. Article 43 is not exclusive, it includes Articles 43 through 47. Those articles create a Military Committee and Military Staff Committee, for which the United Nations would use those forces for whatever goals it so deems. The statute does not allow the President to use forces under Article 43 without approval, because it in effect gives a number of troops to the United Nations and their Committee for use in peacekeeping missions. As I said in our PMs, this would effectively be WWIII, because I cannot envision any scenario where the United States cedes military control to the United Nations.

What you're saying is that in order to fulfill Article 42 the President must have had Article 43 agreements, even though Article 42 requires no agreements. Indeed, Article 42 merely calls upon member states to act, they may chose to do so or not. And they have no UN committees controlling the forces that do act.

This is spurious reasoning at best, because then it renders the words "shall not be deemed to require the authorization of the Congress" moot, since if that is the case, the President must always get authorization regardless.

This is precisely the reason I made the Venn diagram, because it logically breaks down what is being said in the statute, anyone with a lick of sense can understand it.