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Mon Nov-03-03 02:57 PM
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Bus driver in court after slapping boy who said penis |
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http://www.ananova.com/news/story/sm_835060.htmlA bus driver in Montana has appeared in court for hitting a young schoolboy who kept saying "penis" on board his bus.
James Campbell, 62, received a deferred sentence in Helena's City Court after appearing on a charge of assault.
According to City Prosecutor Bob Wood, the charge was levelled against Campbell after a 12-year-old passenger on the bus he was driving reported Campbell slapped him across the head.
Wood said the dispute between Campbell and the student began when he objected to the boy loudly repeating the word "penis" despite his request to stop, says the Independent Record.
Oh, penis!
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Mon Nov-03-03 03:00 PM
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1. The kid should feel lucky he wasn't playing "ring and run" in Fla. |
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Or, if the driver had shot him, charges would probably not have been filed. seems to be the way things work with unruly children in this country.
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Mon Nov-03-03 03:01 PM
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That bus driver was an insult to penises everywhere.
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Mon Nov-03-03 03:24 PM
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11. The busdriver is lucky |
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he didn't hit one of Ma Bush's boys or grandkids...he'd be dead.
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Mon Nov-03-03 04:19 PM
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19. Bah, shooting "ring and runners" and slapping penissayers |
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is letting the 'lil twerps off light.
It's time for us to get Biblical on their asses and stone the 'lil twerps!
/sarcasm
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Mon Nov-03-03 04:40 PM
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22. Heh..."ring and runners"... |
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I thought "ring and runners" were supposed to actually RUN after ringing... In the Florida case, they obviously didn't, since the guy was able to wake up, look out the window, get his gun, get to the front door, and open it.
The "penisboy" didn't deserve to be slapped, he didn't make anybody fear for their lives. The dead boy went out to scare his neighbors in the middle of the night, and contributed greatly to his own demise. Unfortunately, his death wasn't spectacular enough to put him in the running for a Darwin. BTW, where were the 16 year old's parents, and why did they let him go out at midnight to do what he did?
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Mon Nov-03-03 04:42 PM
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23. I'm not pro-killing... |
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I'm pro self-defense.
And your pic doesn't do the kid justice....it doesn't show that he was 6'2" and weighed 200 pounds. That makes him pretty big. Now if he was 4'11", and weighed 90 pounds and had empty hands, that would be a different matter...
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Mon Nov-03-03 04:43 PM
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24. When Are You Gonna Stop Defending That Asshole??? |
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He had no reason at all to kill that kid, and you know it!!! Just because some asshole owns a gun does NOT make him automatically right.
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Mon Nov-03-03 04:48 PM
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27. Co...I don't give a rat's ass about the shooter. |
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the thing is that his belief was REASONABLE given the totality of the circumstances.
The kid's parents admit that he was a juvenile delinquent, so he had a previous history of behaving badly. The kid's friend admits they were going out to annoy and scare the neighbors. And the shooter admits that he was scared by them.
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Mon Nov-03-03 04:51 PM
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30. RECORDS INDICATE CHILD WAS SHOT WHILE RUNNING AWAY |
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http://www.thewpbfchannel.com/news/2605559/detail.html<snip> But lawyer Robert Montgomery said hospital information indicates the teen "was running away" when he was shot. He said he plans to file a wrongful death suit against Levin.
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Mon Nov-03-03 04:59 PM
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33. And Romulus posted the link... |
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explaining how that can happen.
How far from the house was he when he was shot? If he was across the yard, it wouldn't be justified. If he was still on the porch, it would be.
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Mon Nov-03-03 05:04 PM
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35. A one in a million occurance... Hey I thought you wild west types had a |
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Edited on Mon Nov-03-03 05:04 PM by Billy_Pilgrim
code about shooting people in the back?
He was running away for christ's sake!
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Mon Nov-03-03 05:06 PM
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that you don't have a whole lot of experience in real-life threatening situations. If you did, you might view this differently.
And I object to your repeated negative personal characterizations of me. Debate the message, not ad-homs, remember?
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Mon Nov-03-03 05:48 PM
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41. I've had more than my share of real-life threatening experiences. |
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Civil rights marches, redneck bars, redneck jails, jealous husbands...
You don't live as long as I have doing the sort of things I've done without looking death in the face a time or two at least.
Sorry, when people make excuses for the unnecessary killing of a child (even though he was a 200+ pound "baby huey" type), I get a little P.O.'d.
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Mon Nov-03-03 06:01 PM
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Sorry, when people make excuses for the unnecessary killing of a child (even though he was a 200+ pound "baby huey" type), I get a little P.O.'d.
Since you won't take my word for it, or anyone else's here in cyberspace, go down to your local police station and ask the training officer how an unarmed suspect can get "shot in the back" by a police officer. Go ahead. You've got nothing to lose. Prove that I'm full of whatever you think I'm full of.
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Mon Nov-03-03 06:04 PM
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43. He was RUNNING away. You are trying to say he was running away |
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backwards?
There are witnesses AND autopsy reports to support this.
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Mon Nov-03-03 04:57 PM
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32. I Fail To See The Reasonableness Of That Asshole's Actions |
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Someone rang his bell and he blew him away with a single shot in the back. What a real he-man - NOT!!!!!!
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Mon Nov-03-03 05:03 PM
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6'2" tall, 200 pound guy outside the house, while the other kid is beating on the door, at midnight, with the kid having something in his hand, and after the shooter's house had previously been shot at.
Please give a plausible scenario where to would have been a GOOD thing happening to the homeowner...
The kids went out to scare the neighbors, and succeeded. If they were selling popcorn or girl scout cookies in the middle of the day, their conduct would have just been rude. At night, with NO POSSIBLE justification for the kids to be there, it was reasonable.
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Mon Nov-03-03 05:38 PM
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....that the only reason you pro-gunners are defending this asshole is because he is one of your own - a gun owner. And you're acting like "law-abiding" gun owners can do no wrong. To which I say, "Bullshit!!"
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Mon Nov-03-03 05:41 PM
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I think his actions were justified, giving what HE knew of the situation at the time. In the other case posted, where the shooter was pissed off and not in fear of his safety, I said he should be prosecuted.
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Mon Nov-03-03 03:01 PM
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3. What do you get if you say "vagina"? |
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OK, somebody had to say it. Might as well be me to take on that heavy responsibility. :evilgrin:
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Mon Nov-03-03 03:01 PM
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the driver came off as a big dick
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Mon Nov-03-03 04:09 PM
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17. Where'd you find the pic of Ahnold? |
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This must be the one that Molly Ivins was referring to when she said he looked like a condom stuffed with walnuts. Bwahahaha!!!
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Mon Nov-03-03 03:03 PM
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the word 'penis'. Wow. I'm shocked! How about you? I seem to remember 12 year olds using different words for that part of the anatomy. This bus driver needs to a get a grip.
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Mon Nov-03-03 03:03 PM
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Edited on Mon Nov-03-03 03:04 PM by brainshrub
He said penis.
Should I edit this?
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Mon Nov-03-03 03:07 PM
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7. Puritanical/Victorian Culture Holdover . . . |
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causes us so much grief!!
My hairdresser is from New Zealand. She said she didn't know the word "shit" was "a bad word" until she came to the U.S. She is 35. Her priest informed her that "shit" is a bad word in the U.S. We have our standards, you know.
What an uptight, judgmental bunch we can be.
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Mon Nov-03-03 03:08 PM
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8. this isn't a story about the word penis. |
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it's obviously a story about a bus driver who was driven to distraction by an annoying child, lost his temper, hit the kid, and is now in trouble.
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Mon Nov-03-03 03:12 PM
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9. well, that excuses him from having to |
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manage his temper and loss of self-control doesn't it, now?
Sorry - if everyone just hauled off and hit every annoying 12 year old it would not be a better place.
At that age, you are imparting lessons about how to keep self-control, not lose it.
If you don't have self-control by the age of 62, you should be hauling kids around in a bus.
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Mon Nov-03-03 03:23 PM
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10. I don't think truthisfreedom inferred that hitting was correct |
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TIF was just describing how the bus ride played out.
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Mon Nov-03-03 03:24 PM
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12. I don't think that was intended as a defense of the driver.... |
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Frankly, I can see myself getting really annoyed with that kid, but fer crissakes, I'd never hit him.
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Mon Nov-03-03 03:33 PM
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TiF - not attacking you - but if the story is not about some 62 year old man not being able to restrain himself from hitting a 12 year old for saying the word "penis" -
what is it about?
and for clarification - kids are inately annoying - it's their job - they always push the envelope - they look for ways to drill your brains into mush -
maybe the kid saw that this particular word "penis" was a lovely trigger, then the next step was to see how long the boil point was and what the reaction would ultimately be -
(I have a kid - this is from personal experience of being driven slowly drippingly insane :) )
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Mon Nov-03-03 03:38 PM
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14. He didn't just say "penis" |
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boy loudly repeating the word "penis"
The Bus driver reacted because the kid was annoying, not because he simply said penis and I myself am not defending the bus driver, I just think the bus driver reacted to the kid being annoying, not becuase he simply said "penis".
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Mon Nov-03-03 04:06 PM
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16. It's About R-E-S-P-E-C-T |
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And in this case, the lack thereof. Better to pull the bus over, call your supervisor on the cell phone and get the penis parents' number, and have all the angry parents of the late "good" kids call the parents of the penis boy.
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Mon Nov-03-03 06:22 PM
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That's what my old bus driver did. He pulled over and said the bus won't move till you behave. If necessary, you call it in to your supervisor. But you park.
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Mon Nov-03-03 04:14 PM
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18. Except he isn't in trouble |
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He received a deferred sentence. No trouble there. He should be in trouble and if it had been my kid he hit he would learn the meaning of the word trouble. It would not end with a deferred sentence either. Nobody should get away with hitting children.
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Mon Nov-03-03 04:44 PM
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25. Ummm...a deferred sentence... |
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still means a conviction on the first charge if he misbehaves again.
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Mon Nov-03-03 04:48 PM
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26. Every Kid On His Bus Should Yell "PENIS PENIS PENIS" |
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And watch the fireworks!!!!
:-)
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Mon Nov-03-03 05:41 PM
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Mon Nov-03-03 03:49 PM
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15. I double-checked the post |
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I first thought the driver's name was Richard, not James. :evilgrin:
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Mon Nov-03-03 04:48 PM
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29. So he was a little cocky |
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Mon Nov-03-03 04:52 PM
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31. The kid was saying VENUS |
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He was studying for an astronomy quiz and couldn't remember the second planet from the sun so he was repeating it. The ignorant bus driver had his mind in the gutter and heard "penis." Damn, this is what happens when we don't require a college degree to drive school buses.
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Mon Nov-03-03 06:37 PM
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45. penis penis penis penis penis penis penis penis penis |
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Mon Nov-03-03 06:58 PM
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46. As a school bus driver myself... |
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If the day ever comes when I want to hit one of the kids, I'll go to the bus garage and hand over the keys.
You really have to love kids to do this job, because there sure ain't much money in it I make $47 a day, plus extra for field trips and ball games, and those'll dry up after the holidays.
Require college degree to drive....ROTFLMAO
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Mon Nov-03-03 10:52 PM
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52. greetings, drumz4hire! |
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Mon Nov-03-03 06:59 PM
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He sounds like a real "PRICK"!!!!!!
He said that on the sperm of the moment!!
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Mon Nov-03-03 08:46 PM
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I find it extremely ironic and amusing that the prosecutor's name is Wood. Just my own personal observation.
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Mon Nov-03-03 09:57 PM
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50. This is all the fault... |
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Mon Nov-03-03 10:51 PM
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51. Doesn't this fool know that he doesn't have the right to slap |
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..someone else's child? I don't give a shit what he or she said. You report to the school or to the parent. That is a big no no in my book. Touch my child and you will get arrested.
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