Cheney: GOP will win in '08 (There's no question in my mind)

[sabra]

Source: WashTimes

Vice President Dick Cheney this afternoon said he is convinced that a Republican candidate will win the 2008 presidential election, but declined to say who he thinks is the favorite.

"I frankly think a Republican will win the '08 election. There's no question in my mind," Mr. Cheney said during an interview with a conservative radio-show host in Dallas, Texas.

"But I have stayed scrupulously neutral. I didn't want to tilt it one way or the other," Mr. Cheney said.

Mr. Cheney said he and President Bush are in the same position and do not want to say which Republican candidate they favor.

"It wouldn't be fair to whoever I didn't name," Mr. Cheney said. "Or, on the other hand, if I named somebody, it might not help him."



Read more: http://video1.washingtontimes.com/fishwrap/2007/11/vice_president_dick_cheney_thi.html

[TwilightZone]

1. The only thing that the GOP will win is the award for "Most Resignations Due to Shame"

There's no question in my mind.

[babylonsister]

2. Well, he also thinks Chavez is the leader of Peru...

:eyes:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=2192787&mesg_id=2192787

[tridim]

3. The Dick is obviously in his last throes, if you will.

[JBoy]

21. Yes,

It's been pretty well confirmed that Dick is in his last throes, if you will.

[LiberalFighter]

41. Can someone mfg a Viagra pill that is 500 hundred times more potent and give it to him?

[BadGimp]

45. are you suggesting he's all petered out?

[CottonBear]

4. Translation: The GOP plans to steal the vote (again.)

:( Of course he's going to say that they'll win. He just doesn't say HOW.

[JerseygirlCT]

14. That's the only thing that concerns me.

Their candidates are a group of losers.

But look at the losers we've put up with for the past 6 years...

Only through theft.

[ideagarden]

19. voter theft

Thats what his words sounded like. Translation: "We repugnets have rigged the machines again" If it happens I hope people know better than to give up this time.

[Hawaii Hiker]

24. Actually, they are trying to steal 2008, with the shit that's going on in California

And I'm CONVINCED that the only way they would win is if they pull off this fucking stunt in California....

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2007/10/rudy-and-his-fr.html#more

[liberal renegade]

65. First Florida, then Ohio and now Collie-fornia,

makes sense to me..

[davekriss]

39. I remember before the 2004 election

Bush was giving an interview to some dufus from Fox News. On almost everything he was stressed, rolled his eyes, avoided eye contact, garbled his words. I thought he was going to lose it several times and the men in the white coats were going to have to cart him off to a nice hospital setting. Then he was asked who would win in 2004. He immediately pulled himself together and said with forceful clarity that he was going to win, there was no doubt. I turned to my wife and said it's over, the fix is in. I believe I was right.

Perhaps Cheney is unconsciously signaling another tell. The fix is in. Or at least the machinations to steal a third election are in place. Hopefully this time the U.S. citizenry will not allow them to succeed.

[Zynx]

57. I seem to recall identical language in 2006.

We won pretty damn decisively there.

[struggle4progress]

64. Credible: the Washington Times has always been heavily subsidized by the Unification Church, which

opposes constitutional democracy. If it were a genuine business venture, this so-called "newspaper" would have folded years ago, because it loses hundreds of millions every year. The subsidies alone keep it afloat as a rightwing propaganda outlet.

... "We must have an automatic theocracy to rule the world," Moon has declared ... http://www.fair.org/index.php?page=1569

[Mz Pip]

5. Add one more thing

to the ever growing list of things Cheney has been wrong about.

Mz Pip
:dem:

[Sagan]

6. Does it matter?

The Dems in Congress give in to the Repugs all the time, anyway.. what's the difference?

[CoffeeCat]

7. Cheney can get in line behind Rove...

Remember how Rove was oh-so sure that the Republicans would win
big in 06? He thought it was in the bag.

They always have plans to cheat, disenfranchise and steal the
votes--so they want to rub it in our noses before it happens.

They don't plan for getting creamed, which is what happened in
06.

Now, if only Gore would run. There's no way they could steal
that one away.

[stanwyck]

28. Ah, you're referring to "the math"

which Rove said would have the GOP on top during the mid-terms. I guess Rove failed math along with humanity.

[CoffeeCat]

36. LOL!

So true.

He can't add and he can't get in touch with his humanity.

[varun]

44. Cheney said that Repuked would win in 2006

and see how they got creamed.

Keep on making your predictions Darth...

the force is with the democrats :)

[Xipe Totec]

8. No mind - no question. Simple nt

[DrDan]

9. he is delusional . . . the only impact he can have on a candidate is negative . .

scruples??????? you got to be kidding.

[PaDem]

10. we nominate HRC, Cheney looks like a prophet.

I'll never understand it.

[yellowcanine]

11. Mary Matalin showed the same confidence in Poppy Bush defeating Clinton late into the

1992 election season. I don't see the point in worrying about what Dick "peppered my friend in the face" Cheney thinks.

[skipos]

12. He must be basing this on Rove's stellar math in 2006. nt

[0rganism]

13. In fairness, what else would a sitting VP say?

This is hardly unexpected, regardless of person or party. Partisan confidence is absolutely expected from top-level administration officials. If he'd even said, "I'm unsure which party will win in 2008," let alone speculated publicly that the POTUS would switch to the Democrats, it would be taken as an unacceptable indicator of uncertainty and pundits would wonder loudly as to when he was planning to resign.

However, our DUish inclination to view this as ominous is a reflection of how little confidence we have in our democracy, as much as the Times' inclination to present it as newsworthy is a reflection of how much propping the GOP faithful require of late.

[Xipe Totec]

18. I resign the office of Vice President - That'd be a good start nt

[0rganism]

27. yeah, like that's gonna happen

The best chance we have of Darth Cheney leaving the administration before Jan. 2009 is a heart attack. Everything else is wishful thinking.

[Xipe Totec]

58. Likelihood wasn't the question

just options.

[harun]

69. I actually think politically a Cheney resignation would be a good

move for them.

[mvd]

15. Hehe

"Or, on the other hand, if I named somebody, it might not help him." He's wrong about the Repukes winning (unless they try to steal it, and we'll be ready,) but right about that.

[merwin]

52. Yeah, he's basically admitting that he's a failure and that even the GOP hates him.

[minnesota_liberal]

16. Another stolen election in the works?

The only way Cheney could be certain is if the GOP is capable of stealing the 2008 election and plans to do just that.

[dbonds]

17. Is the same way bush was sure he won florida in 2000?

[Lone_Star_Dem]

20. Cheney Sees GOP Winning Midterm Elections (June 15, 2006)

WASHINGTON -- Vice President Dick Cheney said Thursday that the Republicans will prevail in the midterm elections because of a strong economy and the ability of the Bush administration to prevent another terrorist attack.

Polls show voters favor Democrats taking charge in November, but Cheney said the GOP will maintain its majority control in the Senate and House. He cited an economy that's "kicking along in very good shape" and President Bush's record in the war on terror.

"And we protected the United States against further attack from the terrorists," Cheney said in an interview on Sean Hannity's radio show. "You can't guarantee there won't be further attacks, but I think the track record is remarkable."

At his news conference Wednesday, Bush also predicted Republican victories in November, saying the GOP "philosophy is one that is forward-looking and optimistic and has worked."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/06/15/AR2006061501334.html

[beltanefauve]

42. Since when is a Conservative

"forward-looking", and since when is a fear-monger "optimistic"? Delusional is more like it.

[Lone_Star_Dem]

46. It would appear that the voters agreed with you.

Let's hope it's a trend.

[PSPS]

22. I agree with Cheney. From what I can see, the GOP won in '06 too.

The output from congress doesn't seem to be any different today than it was last year, before the '06 election. No matter who wins the elections in this country, the GOP right wing continues to rule everything.

[rodeodance]

23. he will be right if we get lax. We need to get out the vote

[and-justice-for-all]

25. The only way a rethug could win...

is if they stole the election, again.

[Deja Q]

26. With congressional approval rating right now, I wouldn't be entirely surprised.

[PretzelWarrior]

50. no. the voters will vote to rid gridlock and go all Dem

then, when they see how much better this country works with Dems in WH and congress, they'll do it again 4 years later.

[mitchum]

29. Fuck you Mr Cheney (n/t)

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[leftynyc]

55. That will bring the same result as 2000

Have you been happy the last 7 years? Or haven't you ever heard the definition of insanity?

[UTUSN]

31. K&R for, is that in the PERU/Hugo CHAVEZ frame of mind, eh, CHEENEE?!1 n/t

[bonito]

32. It's......y

As long as we cant count the votes!

[humbled_opinion]

33. Not after Flynt Drops the Latest Sex Scandal Bombshell... LOL...

[Renew Deal]

34. Who would they support? I say Guiliani.

He fits their mold. No experience, no balls, no brains.

[Rosa Luxemburg]

35. Fiddling the ballots again?

[Control-Z]

37. Only if they're

planning to cheat again.

[truthisfreedom]

38. "There is no question in my mind." A man utterly devoid of any curiousity, obviously.

He has no questions, only incorrect assessments. They'll greet us with flowers and open arms, everybody. The election will come and Amerika will embrace the GOP, perverts, corruption, incompetence and all.

[Betty]

40. he thinks he's done such a fantastic job

(fronted by his asshole sock puppet the chimp) that grateful voters everywhere will usher in the reign of a thousand years for the repug party.

[weeve]

43. Yes ...

... either the fix is in yet again ( remember how Feinstein says maybe, just maybe we can address the voting machine issue by 2012 ), or like many others he believes the polls on who will get the Democrat's nomination. The Right's chomping at the bit to ensure Hillary gets the nom ... who knows, maybe they're sitting on something juicy ?

[Canuckistanian]

47. So, the Democrats are in the last throes, then?

Given Mr. Cheney's accuracy about anything, this is good news.

[upi402]

48. he who counts the votes >>>>> has spoken

well, not literally 'counts the votes'.

that'd be too similar to actual work for the Dick.

[PretzelWarrior]

49. Go FUCK yourself, Cheney

or better yet, shoot yourself in the face. May your wife jump out a closet (literal and figurative) and send you into spasms and massive heart failure you miserable fuck.

[emilyg]

51. Shut-up Dick

[Vektor]

53. Of course he's confident. Republicans "won" the last two elections.

You know "won" as in "succeeded in stealing with the help of paperless voting machines and widespread dirty tricks."

[tom_paine]

54. Of course he has no question in his mind. They have stolen 3 elections

and may have tried very hard to steal a fourth with little resistanc from a weak and slavsh people (us).

I see no reason why Cheney or his BushPutnist Blackshirts should fear in any way shape or form, the will of the American People.

They should fear we Imperial Subjects of Amerika as Hitler feared the Germans rising against him or even noticing what he was in great enough umbers to matter.

Anyone who says they are unfamiliar with the day-to-day nuts-and-bolts of how Hitler rose simply has not been paying attention to the last seven years of Amerika.

[tblue37]

56. He has THE math. n/t

[EFerrari]

59. We need on the ground election protection in the swing states.

:nuke:

[chieftain]

60. Exactly correct, and the Repubs will be greeted as liberators,

there's no question in my mind about that.

[HuffleClaw]

61. "if I named somebody, it might not help him"

hehhehehehehehe

[City Lights]

62. Coming from the mouth of the dick that's been wrong about everything.

:eyes:

[UTUSN]

63. Would that be in -- oh, I don't know -- PERU, Dick?!1 n/t

[bdamomma]

66. what do these two sleazebums have up their sleeves???

I do not trust them at all.

[Amigust]

67. Cheney could be right

Republicans lost in 2006 only because they miscalculated the Democrat groundswell, so their election-stealing apparatus couldn't adjust quickly enough for the big difference from what was expected. Democrats probably lost seats to Republicans in 2006 because in some cases they were successful at rigging. How else did 3,000,000 Dem votes go missing?

In 2008 they'll be ready for it, their rigging apparatus will be ready, Dems will have been scrubbed from the voting lists, caging will be alive and well, voter ID's will prevent many Dems votes from being cast. California may even have a split electoral college count. There will be a close race between Clinton and Giuliani. The count will go for Clinton until the final adjustment kicks in -- and the count could be 50+% Giuliani to 50-% Clinton. Where have we seen that before? US 2000, US 2004, Mexico 2006 (with the help of Bush election fixers).

It's advisable to take Cheney seriously and press harder to make sure all Dem votes can be cast and will be counted accurately.

[onenote]

68. Dick Cheney: Master prognosticator. Not.

http://www.cnn.com/POLITICS/blogs/politicalticker/2006/10/cheney-predicts-gop-will-maintain.html

[bamacrat]

70. It;s already been decided for us, our vote doesnt really count.

we need major election reform in this country. The electoral college is a bunch of bullshit designed to appoint the agreed upon candidate no matter the will of the people.