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Galraedia (322 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-08-11 01:51 PM Original message |
Bernie Sanders Proposes A Constitutional Amendment To Overturn Citizens United |
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musiclawyer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-08-11 01:59 PM Response to Original message |
1. This is all nice but nothing gets done, no change until........ |
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Demit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-08-11 02:36 PM Response to Reply #1 |
6. The President has no role in a Constitutional amendment process, for starters. |
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progressoid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-08-11 06:06 PM Response to Reply #6 |
34. self delete |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-09-11 10:52 AM Response to Reply #6 |
73. Do you mean no official role? |
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Ter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-09-11 07:11 PM Response to Reply #73 |
100. Constitutional Amendments do not go to him for a signature |
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Aleric (278 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-08-11 04:32 PM Response to Reply #1 |
22. Sen Reid, please sit down. |
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Aleric (278 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-08-11 04:35 PM Response to Reply #1 |
23. That's all nice but nothing gets done, no change until... |
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savalez (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-08-11 06:08 PM Response to Reply #23 |
36. You have no idea what you are talking about. |
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AlbertCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-08-11 10:45 PM Response to Reply #23 |
62. That's all nice but nothing gets done, no change until... |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-09-11 10:57 AM Response to Reply #62 |
75. +1 And propose it again and again so the public can see which roaches oppose it. |
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Shoe Horn (54 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-09-11 06:47 PM Response to Reply #75 |
99. Anyone got a list of the DINOs that extended Bush's Tax Cuts for the 1%? |
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Sarah Ibarruri (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-08-11 09:42 PM Response to Reply #1 |
59. I agree. nt |
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Enrique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-08-11 09:56 PM Response to Reply #1 |
61. to do what? |
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Scuba (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-08-11 02:03 PM Response to Original message |
2. In my humble opinion, this doesn't go nearly far enough.... |
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happyslug (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-08-11 05:53 PM Response to Reply #2 |
30. Didn't you learn the lesson of Prohibition? "Positive" rights under the Constitution do NOT work |
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Scuba (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-08-11 06:09 PM Response to Reply #30 |
37. Wow. I hope you didn't write all that just for me.... |
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truedelphi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-08-11 08:30 PM Response to Reply #30 |
51. That is some lesson in what |
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Gore1FL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-08-11 10:49 PM Response to Reply #30 |
63. Wow! Thanks. |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-09-11 11:04 AM Response to Reply #30 |
76. Well... |
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freshwest (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-08-11 02:05 PM Response to Original message |
3. Thanks for bringing this here. K & R. |
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deacon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-08-11 02:25 PM Response to Original message |
4. No real change is possible unless this is overturned. n/t |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-09-11 11:30 AM Response to Reply #4 |
81. Possible, but much harder. And would require more of us. |
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Zorra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-08-11 02:33 PM Response to Original message |
5. KNR - occupy nt |
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DocMac (429 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-08-11 02:36 PM Response to Original message |
7. Can't wait to see it passed and signed. |
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KansDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-08-11 02:37 PM Response to Original message |
8. knr |
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oldhippydude (446 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-08-11 03:00 PM Response to Reply #8 |
9. funny |
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Enthusiast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-08-11 03:51 PM Response to Reply #9 |
13. Bush v Gore |
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kenfrequed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-08-11 04:17 PM Response to Reply #13 |
20. There was a series of bad decisions |
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howmad1 (959 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-08-11 06:58 PM Response to Reply #9 |
44. And that's why it won't make...... |
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Enthusiast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-08-11 03:49 PM Response to Reply #8 |
12. That's because it wasn't "wisdom". |
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EnviroBat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-08-11 04:07 PM Response to Reply #8 |
17. There really was no "wisdom" to speak of. |
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Exultant Democracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-08-11 03:02 PM Response to Original message |
10. www.wolf-pac.com... join the fight. |
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benld74 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-08-11 03:37 PM Response to Original message |
11. CHeck out Alternet of HOW Citizens United came to be,,,turned my stomach!!!! |
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SoapBox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-08-11 03:56 PM Response to Original message |
14. Go Bernie... |
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peace frog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-08-11 05:56 PM Response to Reply #14 |
31. Sadly true, but mad kudos to Bernie nevertheless |
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certainot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-08-11 04:04 PM Response to Original message |
15. good on ya bernie |
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ooglymoogly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-08-11 04:04 PM Response to Original message |
16. One of the few left in congress, that the corporatists have not yet |
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certainot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-08-11 04:14 PM Response to Original message |
18. bernie usually does the first hour with thom hartmann on fridays, 12EST |
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ooglymoogly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-08-11 04:16 PM Response to Original message |
19. This is the kind of man we need to run for the president. kr nt |
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Bill USA (628 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-08-11 04:28 PM Response to Original message |
21. RECOMMENDED! also suggest sending Sanders an email or calling his office to praise him for this. |
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onenote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-08-11 04:40 PM Response to Original message |
24. This is a much better attempt at an amendment than most I've seen |
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JDPriestly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-08-11 04:51 PM Response to Original message |
25. Thank you, Bernie Sanders. |
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Maineman (411 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-08-11 04:56 PM Response to Original message |
26. Best wording, so far. |
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gussmith (13 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-08-11 05:13 PM Response to Original message |
27. About Time |
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LuvNewcastle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-08-11 05:14 PM Response to Original message |
28. This could be something to rally around. |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-09-11 11:19 AM Response to Reply #28 |
77. The message of OWS is very clear: This country has been rigged to make the |
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Nye Bevan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-09-11 08:23 PM Response to Reply #28 |
101. I'm not a RWer but I think it's a bad idea. |
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provis99 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-08-11 05:46 PM Response to Original message |
29. it doesn't address non-profit corporations, a bad flaw. |
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happyslug (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-08-11 05:58 PM Response to Reply #29 |
32. And if they did, Unions would have to be added |
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provis99 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-09-11 12:07 AM Response to Reply #32 |
66. the more we can restrict lobbyists and groups, the better. |
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happyslug (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-09-11 05:29 PM Response to Reply #66 |
93. That violates the First Amendment |
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provis99 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-09-11 06:38 PM Response to Reply #93 |
98. no, a new Constitutional Amendment does not violate the Constition. |
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Xithras (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-09-11 12:21 AM Response to Reply #32 |
67. For many, that would be an equitable trade. |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-09-11 11:26 AM Response to Reply #67 |
79. It's not only unions, though. Amnesty International, NAACP, ACLU, |
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Xithras (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-09-11 02:55 PM Response to Reply #79 |
89. Would it be such a terrible thing.. |
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Nye Bevan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-09-11 08:26 PM Response to Reply #89 |
102. Wow. You would want the NAACP to be criminally prosecuted |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-09-11 11:23 AM Response to Reply #29 |
78. Thing is, would you want to eliminate, say, the NAACP from protection? |
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onehandle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-08-11 06:05 PM Response to Original message |
33. Love him, but lotsa luck there. nt |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-09-11 11:27 AM Response to Reply #33 |
80. Well, if he succeeds, we'll either have an amendment or know who stopped it. |
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Initech (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-08-11 06:07 PM Response to Original message |
35. If it fails - keep introducing it. This needs to happen NOW!! |
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Buenaventura (269 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-08-11 06:14 PM Response to Original message |
38. 'bout time. n/t |
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City Lights (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-08-11 06:15 PM Response to Original message |
39. Thanks, Senator Sanders! |
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muriel_volestrangler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-08-11 06:26 PM Response to Original message |
40. Looks like a good amendment to me |
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AllyCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-08-11 06:29 PM Response to Original message |
41. Didn't Merkley already do this? Is this a matter of just doing it over and over until |
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UrbScotty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-08-11 06:31 PM Response to Original message |
42. He's not the first - some Dems have introduced something similar - but this is important! |
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Dont call me Shirley (396 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-08-11 06:31 PM Response to Original message |
43. Thank you, Bernie. Elect more Bernie's to congress!!!!! |
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McCamy Taylor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-08-11 07:06 PM Response to Original message |
45. K&R |
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Marnie (706 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-08-11 07:22 PM Response to Original message |
46. You go Bernie |
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Raksha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-09-11 01:44 AM Response to Reply #46 |
70. +1000 |
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dotymed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-09-11 10:57 AM Response to Reply #46 |
74. K&R. |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-09-11 11:33 AM Response to Reply #46 |
82. On the bright side, Presidents last 4 to 8 years. Conceivably, Bernie could remain in Congress till |
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Veracious (196 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-08-11 08:01 PM Response to Original message |
47. Vigilance! |
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mysuzuki2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-08-11 08:06 PM Response to Original message |
48. I wonder how far this will get? |
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Jim_Shorts (355 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-08-11 09:25 PM Response to Reply #48 |
55. About as far as a Yes Men spoof |
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mysuzuki2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-09-11 12:04 AM Response to Reply #55 |
65. Unfortunately, I think you are right. |
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FailureToCommunicate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-08-11 08:09 PM Response to Original message |
49. Go Bernie! |
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Bozita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-08-11 08:20 PM Response to Original message |
50. link to email from Bernie. He wants us to sign a petition ... |
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LongTomH (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-08-11 08:38 PM Response to Original message |
52. A link to the YouTube video of Bernie speaking out on his amendment. |
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eallen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-08-11 08:42 PM Response to Original message |
53. I don't see how that would affect Citizens United |
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onenote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-09-11 02:14 PM Response to Reply #53 |
87. Section 4 |
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eallen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-09-11 05:55 PM Response to Reply #87 |
96. So, the NYT, Fox, and NBC could be censored during elections?! |
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onenote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-10-11 08:33 AM Response to Reply #96 |
104. If it only allowed regulation of what the candidate controls it would be meaningless |
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WillyT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-08-11 08:44 PM Response to Original message |
54. Thank Bernie !!! - K & R !!! |
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still_one (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-08-11 09:30 PM Response to Original message |
56. Bernie is one of the few true patriots left /nt |
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myrna minx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-08-11 09:35 PM Response to Original message |
57. K&R n/t |
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wordpix (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-08-11 09:36 PM Response to Original message |
58. once again, Bernie gets my vote! Sounds good to me |
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unkachuck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-08-11 09:45 PM Response to Original message |
60. Bless you, Mr. Sanders! |
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lovuian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-09-11 12:22 AM Response to Reply #60 |
68. He is a TRUE AMERICAN |
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Texas Lawyer (21 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-08-11 11:14 PM Response to Original message |
64. please! |
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Tsiyu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-09-11 01:23 AM Response to Original message |
69. Vital, historic move |
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blkmusclmachine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-09-11 06:24 AM Response to Original message |
71. Well, that'll go nowhere fast in this CONgress. |
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azul (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-09-11 10:32 AM Response to Reply #71 |
72. Not DOA at all. |
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fascisthunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-09-11 02:02 PM Response to Reply #72 |
86. OWS brought attention to this very issue |
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Hotler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-09-11 01:15 PM Response to Original message |
83. k&r n/t |
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Bolo Boffin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-09-11 01:50 PM Response to Original message |
84. Limited liability? Limited rights. n/t |
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Jefferson23 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-09-11 02:01 PM Response to Original message |
85. K&R |
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pam4water (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-09-11 02:22 PM Response to Original message |
88. Aww too late to rec. |
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mvd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-09-11 03:01 PM Response to Original message |
90. You go, Bernie! He has not forgotten what a blow to our.. |
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Freddie Stubbs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-09-11 03:02 PM Response to Original message |
91. I wonder why he hasn't tried to get more cosponsors? |
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yurbud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-09-11 03:10 PM Response to Original message |
92. kick |
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and-justice-for-all (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-09-11 05:42 PM Response to Original message |
94. Hell YES |
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Nye Bevan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-09-11 05:51 PM Response to Original message |
95. Note that this amendment would apply also to LLC's, including DemocraticUnderground. |
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eallen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-09-11 05:58 PM Response to Reply #95 |
97. Exactly! No one has proposed anything that distinguishes DU from Citizens United. |
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Nye Bevan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-09-11 08:36 PM Response to Reply #97 |
103. I agree, but as you can see from this thread, we are in a tiny minority in DU on this issue. |
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Kahuna (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-10-11 09:31 AM Response to Original message |
105. He'd better wait for a national Democratic sweep (pres, congress, govenorshipes.. |
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