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katty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-11 02:13 PM
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Rachel Maddow on 'prolonged detention' - Obama speech
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peace13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-11 02:27 PM
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1. Wow! n/t
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JDPriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-11 03:26 PM
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2. OK! Obama defenders!
I remember back when Martin Luther King was viewed by a lot people in the South as the leader of a Communist plot. Remember those Communists?

They were the deadly threat that scared our nation into doing stupid things before we got the deadly threat of the terrorists who are now scaring our nation into doing stupid things.

No, Mr. President, neither you nor Congress has the right to deprive a defendant in a criminal case of the due process required by the Constitution.

Wow! What is next? Too many prisoners to deal with so a "final solution" to the threats is justified?

This is a slippery slope. When you find yourself on a slippery slope you try to grab onto something solid to break your skid.

How about grabbing onto the Bill of Rights, Mr. President?

Please. For a change. Read and apply the Constitution. This is the worst news yet.
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Citizen Worker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-11 03:44 PM
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3. Let me be perfectly clear. "They" hate us for our freedoms. Using that logic if we eliminate the
freedoms set forth in the Bill of Rights the hatred will disappear. Another first rate example of multi-dimensional chess strategy by our constitutional scholar president.
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avebury Donating Member (455 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-11 05:06 PM
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4. I just about fell out of my chair - nt
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Enthusiast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-11 05:39 PM
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5. Kicked and recommended!
Let us not be like the foolish Republicans, always genuflecting before their 'leaders' -right or wrong.

When Obama is wrong, let him have it. If the Obama cheerleaders on DU would join us in legitimate criticism of the President we could steer him in a direction that would be positive for the American middle class and working families. He asked us to do that very thing.
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kayakjohnny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-11 05:50 PM
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6. The turd that is our government makes one more revolution on the way down the shitter.
That is all.
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slipslidingaway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-11 06:43 PM
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7. And now - Confirmed: Obama authorizes assassination of U.S. citizen
Prolonged, preventative detention sounds good.

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http://www.salon.com/2010/04/07/assassinations_2/singleton/

"In late January, I wrote about the Obama administration’s “presidential assassination program,” whereby American citizens are targeted for killings far away from any battlefield, based exclusively on unchecked accusations by the Executive Branch that they’re involved in Terrorism. At the time, The Washington Post‘s Dana Priest had noted deep in a long article that Obama had continued Bush’s policy (which Bush never actually implemented) of having the Joint Chiefs of Staff compile “hit lists” of Americans, and Priest suggested that the American-born Islamic cleric Anwar al-Awlaki was on that list. The following week, Obama’s Director of National Intelligence, Adm. Dennis Blair, acknowledged in Congressional testimony that the administration reserves the “right” to carry out such assassinations..."


The Awlaki memo and Marty Lederman

http://www.salon.com/2011/10/09/the_awlaki_memo_and_marty_lederman/singleton/

"Several months after President Obama ordered Anwar Awlaki killed by the CIA, the Obama DOJ — specifically lawyers within its Office of Legal Counsel — produced a memorandum legally authorizing this action. Despite multiple requests, the Obama administration refuses to release that memo to the public. Several DOJ officials, hiding behind anonymity, have apparently refused to leak the memo, but have now selectively described parts of it to The New York Times‘ Charlie Savage – presumably the parts they wanted him to know about — and he then reported on what they said (offering some important counter-points along the way). As Savage put it:

The secret document provided the justification for acting despite an executive order banning assassinations, a federal law against murder, protections in the Bill of Rights and various strictures of the international laws of war, according to people familiar with the analysis.

I’ve already addressed, repeatedly and at length, the substance of the claim that the President has the power to secretly order American citizens killed by the CIA far from any battlefield and without a whiff of due process, and won’t repeat those arguments now. I will, however, note that the Bush administration’s refusal to release OLC memos which provided the legal justifications for the President’s most controversial War on Terror actions prompted extreme criticisms from Democratic legal scholars.

As but one example, Obama’s original choice to head the OLC, Dawn Johnsen, repeatedly railed against this Bush practice of concealing OLC memos as “secret law,” writing that “the Bush Administration’s excessive reliance on ‘secret law’ threatens the effective functioning of American democracy” and “the withholding from Congress and the public of legal interpretations by the Justice Department Office of Legal Counsel (OLC) upsets the system of checks and balances between the executive and legislative branches of government.” In her April, 2008 testimony before the Senate Judiciary Committee, she was nothing short of scathing on the practice of concealing OLC memos (note that the Bush DOJ, even when withholding OLC memos, at least would sometimes publicly present its legal reasoning in a far more formal and comprehensive way than anonymous leaks of purported summaries of parts of these memos to the NYT)..."



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certainot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-11 06:55 PM
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8. this was from may 22, 2009. and for years limbaugh's been selling club gitmo wear without complaint
limbaugh and our university athletics programs that endorse him set the standard in US for what is and what isn't acceptable, because the left ignores it.

if you can sell club gitmo t-shirts and mugs from 600 of the biggest radio stations, blasting their communities all day with torture is good, and they never hear a peep of complaint about it then why isn't shit like this acceptable?

the people have to lead.
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BlueToTheBone Donating Member (196 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-11 07:06 PM
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9. So is this law? The date stamp is May 22, 2009
What happened?
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blkmusclmachine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-11 07:46 PM
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10. Fraud from the get-go.
Time to primary.
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dash_bannon Donating Member (79 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-11 08:19 PM
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11. Meet the New Boss...
Wow! It's getting to the point where I really don't know who to trust. Is that how they'll keep We the People divided?
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A Simple Game Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-11 08:41 PM
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12. I don't understand why the Republicans don't like this guy. n/t
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