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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-24-04 12:32 PM Original message |
Studies link Marijuana to Schizophrenia. |
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Marnieworld (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-24-04 12:35 PM Original message |
It's a chicken and the egg scenario though |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-24-04 12:38 PM Response to Original message |
4. I disagree. I've seen the effects of marijuana first hand with a family |
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K-W (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-24-04 12:40 PM Response to Reply #4 |
6. How can you disagree? |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-24-04 12:43 PM Response to Reply #6 |
9. I saw a person who didn't halucinate and hear voices, halucinate and hear |
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K-W (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-24-04 12:50 PM Response to Reply #9 |
13. With due respect, that doesnt prove anything. |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-24-04 01:13 PM Response to Reply #13 |
38. Read the studies. I am convinced as I've seen it first hand. |
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K-W (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-24-04 01:17 PM Response to Reply #38 |
43. Believe what you want, but pls back up things you post |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-24-04 01:24 PM Response to Reply #43 |
48. I don't have an agenda here, and this is not MY claim. I simply agree |
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K-W (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-24-04 01:32 PM Response to Reply #48 |
56. erm |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-24-04 01:38 PM Response to Reply #56 |
60. Acutally if you read the website, they note meth and other drugs as well |
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K-W (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-24-04 01:46 PM Response to Reply #60 |
65. your thread title is misleading |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-24-04 01:52 PM Response to Reply #65 |
68. Puleeze. This source is not "bad" |
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TeacherCreature (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-24-04 02:37 PM Response to Reply #65 |
87. Smear drug use? |
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TeacherCreature (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-24-04 02:33 PM Response to Reply #43 |
83. What are you talking about? |
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TeacherCreature (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-24-04 02:31 PM Response to Reply #38 |
81. I've seen it first hand too, MMolly |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-24-04 02:59 PM Response to Reply #81 |
93. Thanks "Teach" |
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H2O Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-24-04 02:35 PM Response to Reply #9 |
85. My two cents: |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-24-04 03:04 PM Response to Reply #85 |
94. Thanks for your *professional and reasoned* input H20.... |
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H2O Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-24-04 03:27 PM Response to Reply #94 |
96. Thank you.... |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-24-04 04:03 PM Response to Reply #96 |
103. Yer a peach as usual. |
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DBoon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-24-04 03:40 PM Response to Reply #85 |
98. So pot doesn't cause mental illness |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-24-04 04:04 PM Response to Reply #98 |
104. I think it's considered a *contributing* factor. |
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H2O Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-24-04 05:28 PM Response to Reply #98 |
117. Now this is a great discussion... |
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DBoon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-24-04 05:39 PM Response to Reply #117 |
120. By coincidence I meant |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-24-04 05:46 PM Response to Reply #120 |
124. I'll let H20 address your questions but |
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H2O Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-24-04 09:18 PM Response to Reply #124 |
134. Cigarettes, cigars, & pipes: |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-24-04 05:43 PM Response to Reply #117 |
122. Excellent information. |
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Warpy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-24-04 12:57 PM Response to Original message |
19. Exactly, that was my thought |
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TeacherCreature (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-24-04 02:25 PM Response to Original message |
79. Did you read the scientific studies? |
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tridim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-24-04 12:35 PM Response to Original message |
1. In other words, Marijuana is still completely safe |
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nightperson (550 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-24-04 05:07 PM Response to Reply #1 |
114. Nothing in the world is completely safe! |
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ayeshahaqqiqa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-24-04 12:35 PM Response to Original message |
2. I thought studies involving marijuana were banned |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-24-04 12:39 PM Response to Reply #2 |
5. I know more then one "schizo" who have been effected by mari-j usage. |
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indigobusiness (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-24-04 01:13 PM Response to Reply #5 |
39. more 'than'...not more 'then'... |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-24-04 01:24 PM Response to Reply #39 |
49. Thanks, I always get confused. Could be all that second hand pot smoke? |
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indigobusiness (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-24-04 01:29 PM Response to Reply #49 |
53. Second hand...first hand...it's all hand... |
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AlecBGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-24-04 12:36 PM Response to Original message |
3. I dont get it |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-24-04 12:40 PM Response to Reply #3 |
7. Sounds like both actually. |
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Uben (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-24-04 12:43 PM Response to Original message |
8. OMG! |
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TeacherCreature (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-24-04 02:40 PM Response to Reply #8 |
89. If you had a schizophrenic sibling, you would know you post is not funny. |
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Cyrano (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-24-04 12:44 PM Response to Original message |
10. Back when I had my first hit of a joint, I had an uncontollable urge to |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-24-04 12:47 PM Response to Reply #10 |
12. For some people, this isn't "funny" |
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Cyrano (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-24-04 12:54 PM Response to Reply #12 |
15. Lighten up mzmolly |
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SemperEadem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-24-04 01:16 PM Response to Reply #15 |
42. actually, back in the early 20th century |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-24-04 01:18 PM Response to Reply #15 |
44. I don't *blame* anything. People have a choice. But I know for a FACT |
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TeacherCreature (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-24-04 02:49 PM Response to Reply #15 |
91. Her response to you was not heavy. |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-24-04 12:46 PM Response to Original message |
11. More links here: |
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1monster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-24-04 12:51 PM Response to Original message |
14. What do they mean by "early onset" though? It is my understanding that |
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K-W (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-24-04 12:56 PM Response to Reply #14 |
16. it seems to trigger symptoms early in people already prone |
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vivalarev (503 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-24-04 12:57 PM Response to Reply #14 |
17. BULLSHIT!!!!! |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-24-04 01:01 PM Response to Reply #17 |
21. Actually the website I mention has much research and marijuana is |
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K-W (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-24-04 01:04 PM Response to Reply #21 |
23. What is your point? |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-24-04 01:27 PM Response to Reply #23 |
50. HUH? Why the vitriol? |
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K-W (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-24-04 01:34 PM Response to Reply #50 |
57. The drug war kills people. |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-24-04 01:46 PM Response to Reply #57 |
64. Drugs also kill people. |
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K-W (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-24-04 01:49 PM Response to Reply #64 |
67. Yes some of it is propaganda. |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-24-04 01:53 PM Response to Reply #67 |
69. I don't have to prove anything to you. Make up your own mind. |
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Cyrano (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-24-04 01:11 PM Response to Reply #21 |
35. exposure to cats and/or marijuana can lead, |
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1monster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-24-04 01:29 PM Response to Reply #17 |
52. Huh? I never posted anything about marijuana. I asked what do they |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-24-04 12:57 PM Response to Reply #14 |
18. Some info here: |
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1monster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-24-04 01:37 PM Response to Reply #18 |
59. Thanks. It seems to me from those I've know with mental illnesses in |
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K-W (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-24-04 01:01 PM Response to Original message |
20. Before this thread turns stupid, read this. |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-24-04 01:06 PM Response to Reply #20 |
25. Actually it can be a risk factor. |
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K-W (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-24-04 01:09 PM Response to Reply #25 |
34. That isnt a study, it is a fact sheet |
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wicket (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-24-04 01:06 PM Response to Reply #20 |
26. That makes a lot more sense |
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kimchi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-24-04 01:09 PM Response to Reply #20 |
31. Thank you! |
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msmcghee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-24-04 01:21 PM Response to Reply #20 |
46. Also, this is one study. |
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Downtown Hound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-24-04 01:41 PM Response to Reply #46 |
62. Ditto |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-24-04 01:48 PM Response to Reply #46 |
66. Read the website. It's not propaganda. I am glad you and your friends |
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msmcghee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-24-04 02:14 PM Response to Reply #66 |
75. Mollyz - I do not assume you have any agenda. |
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Pithlet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-24-04 05:38 PM Response to Reply #46 |
119. Don't forget the "Abortions cause breast cancer" studies |
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maggrwaggr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-24-04 01:02 PM Response to Original message |
22. what about women? |
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librechik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-24-04 02:01 PM Response to Reply #22 |
71. for some unknown reason , women don't get the disease |
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maggrwaggr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-24-04 02:21 PM Response to Reply #71 |
77. how odd. Most of the schizophrenics I've met personally have been female |
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librechik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-24-04 02:39 PM Response to Reply #77 |
88. I think there are a lot of bipolar females |
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flamingyouth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-24-04 01:05 PM Response to Original message |
24. This study fascinates me - I want to know more about it |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-24-04 01:07 PM Response to Reply #24 |
28. I agree with you, I'm for legalization but have seen the impact it has |
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flamingyouth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-24-04 01:08 PM Response to Reply #28 |
30. Thank you, I definitely will |
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Flubadubya (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-24-04 01:15 PM Response to Reply #30 |
40. As you must well know (probably better than many)... |
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flamingyouth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-24-04 01:16 PM Response to Reply #40 |
41. LOL - believe me, I'd love to eat a pint of ice cream each day |
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K-W (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-24-04 01:08 PM Response to Reply #24 |
29. In high doses it can cause dependence. |
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flamingyouth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-24-04 01:09 PM Response to Reply #29 |
32. Oh, he had a lot of life-long problems, believe me |
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Fovea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-24-04 01:06 PM Response to Original message |
27. Reading the conclusion about 'street drugs' |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-24-04 01:12 PM Response to Reply #27 |
36. Look at the entire website. It's not about marijuana, it's about the |
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Fovea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-24-04 01:43 PM Response to Reply #36 |
63. I did understand that it was a site about Schiz. |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-24-04 02:05 PM Response to Reply #63 |
73. Because this one I believe effected my family personally, and because |
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maggrwaggr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-24-04 02:25 PM Response to Reply #36 |
78. still, alcohol is a FAR worse drug than cannibis |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-24-04 02:35 PM Response to Reply #78 |
84. I'll give you that, though my rele was diagnosed as a |
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nightperson (550 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-24-04 05:02 PM Response to Reply #78 |
113. If alcohol was discovered or invented today, |
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misanthrope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-24-04 01:31 PM Response to Reply #27 |
55. Oh yes... |
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mopinko (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-24-04 01:09 PM Response to Original message |
33. don't know about schiz, but |
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misanthrope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-24-04 01:13 PM Response to Original message |
37. THIS JUST IN! Oxygen is... |
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slutticus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-24-04 04:25 PM Response to Reply #37 |
109. Oxygen is actually very toxic... |
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Suzi Creamcheese (126 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-24-04 01:19 PM Response to Original message |
45. Reefer Madness Revisited |
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K-W (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-24-04 01:23 PM Response to Reply #45 |
47. The problem here is its not ALL propaganda |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-24-04 01:29 PM Response to Reply #47 |
54. I've never claimed anything more. |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-24-04 01:28 PM Response to Reply #45 |
51. Like I said, this is not an attempt to question the case for legalization. |
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K-W (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-24-04 01:35 PM Response to Reply #51 |
58. If this is all you were trying to say, I apologize. |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-24-04 01:41 PM Response to Reply #58 |
61. The war on mental illness is also a tragedy. |
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TeacherCreature (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-24-04 02:55 PM Response to Reply #58 |
92. Drug use is a major tragedy of our times |
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Suzi Creamcheese (126 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-24-04 07:58 PM Response to Reply #51 |
127. I am not recommend that people use any drug. However the punishment |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-24-04 08:04 PM Response to Reply #127 |
130. I'd have no problem legalizing pot, but I'd like to be honest about |
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Suzi Creamcheese (126 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-24-04 08:16 PM Response to Reply #130 |
132. Then we are in complete agreement, and thank you for your |
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ilovenicepeople (883 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-24-04 04:59 PM Response to Reply #45 |
111. it's true street drugs are dangerous! |
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Suzi Creamcheese (126 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-24-04 07:59 PM Response to Reply #111 |
128. lol, there you go. Love your logo Frank |
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Mr_Spock (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-24-04 02:00 PM Response to Original message |
70. Um, would this thread be this popular in Freeperland?? LOL |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-24-04 02:04 PM Response to Reply #70 |
72. Thanks for the open mind. I thought they might like it at freeperland, |
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Mr_Spock (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-24-04 02:09 PM Response to Reply #72 |
74. LOL, oh I knew LOTs of stoner freepers. This coke head I knew became a cop |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-24-04 02:16 PM Response to Reply #74 |
76. Yes, and don't forget our boy George. Coke head leader of the free world. |
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Mr_Spock (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-24-04 02:29 PM Response to Reply #76 |
80. You know, I experimented with a certain little microdot pill and I swear |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-24-04 02:33 PM Response to Reply #80 |
82. My dh claims everyone should do Acid so they "understand" the meaning |
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kerry-is-my-prez (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-24-04 02:36 PM Response to Original message |
86. You cannot develop schizophrenia unless you have a genetic predispostion |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-24-04 02:44 PM Response to Reply #86 |
90. True, but some identical twins develop the disorder while others do |
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Sparky McGruff (321 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-24-04 03:11 PM Response to Reply #86 |
95. There is no single schizophrenia gene |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-24-04 03:46 PM Response to Reply #95 |
99. Very well said. Thanks. |
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Elidor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-24-04 04:15 PM Response to Reply #95 |
107. So it may be an environmental factor |
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depakid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-24-04 03:38 PM Response to Original message |
97. The study only shows a correlation- not a causal link |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-24-04 03:56 PM Response to Reply #97 |
101. The website notes many studies. |
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depakid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-24-04 04:11 PM Response to Reply #101 |
105. The major trouble is with causal direction of the correlation |
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mdmc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-24-04 03:54 PM Response to Original message |
100. Democrats tend to have higher mental illness rates than the GOP |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-24-04 04:00 PM Response to Reply #100 |
102. Hey, Right Wingism is a mental illness... |
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Warren DeMontague (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-24-04 04:12 PM Response to Original message |
106. Right. Stick with Booze and Nicotine, Kids.. |
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depakid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-24-04 04:20 PM Response to Reply #106 |
108. Interestingly enough- people with many mental illnesses tend to |
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slutticus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-24-04 04:28 PM Response to Original message |
110. "...exposure to cats in childhood was a risk factor..." |
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VelmaD (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-24-04 05:00 PM Response to Reply #110 |
112. Cats are food. |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-24-04 05:28 PM Response to Reply #110 |
118. LOL. It appears to be cats with a specific virus, but.... |
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DBoon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-24-04 05:41 PM Response to Reply #110 |
121. John Ashcroft was right |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-24-04 05:50 PM Response to Reply #121 |
125. Now don't panic, it's only cats with the T. Gondi virus ... and this only |
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bhunt70 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-24-04 05:14 PM Response to Original message |
115. here is a good link for studies on marijuana and usage here |
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mdmc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-24-04 08:01 PM Response to Reply #115 |
129. there you have it... worthy of a |
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maxanne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-24-04 05:15 PM Response to Original message |
116. it's a shame |
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Must_B_Free (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-24-04 05:43 PM Response to Original message |
123. Studies also link mariphrenia with schizojuana |
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VOX (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-24-04 06:13 PM Response to Original message |
126. Not true -- and both of me are saying that! |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-24-04 08:08 PM Response to Reply #126 |
131. Right. |
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NecessaryOnslaught (691 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-24-04 09:06 PM Response to Original message |
133. I see DeAd PeOpLe |
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