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medeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-04 04:18 PM
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Fallwell vs Carville coming up on Crossfire
this should be hideous. Fallwell speaking of abstinence programs.
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tk2kewl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-04 04:19 PM
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1. Carville should smash an egg on the Nazi's head
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hiley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-04 04:20 PM
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2. maybe
Carville will go ape shit on falwell
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King Coal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-04 04:20 PM
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3. Please feed us cube rats. Thanks.
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maveric Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-04 04:22 PM
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4. I swore off Crossfire some months ago.
It turned into what Jon Stewart said it was and was getting silly.

But... Since Carville is on with the evil reverand/nazi, I may reconsider.

I just hope that Carville is on his game and not neutered like a couple of our other pundits have been.
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bushisanidiot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-04 04:23 PM
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5. Too bad they aren't using boxing gloves instead of yelling over eachother
THAT would be more fun to watch.

either way.. carville's gonna whup his ass! ;)
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BOSSHOG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-04 04:26 PM
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6. I bet Falwell won't be in Studio
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Beware the Beast Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-04 04:28 PM
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7. Falwell's giant, puffy head is enough for me to abstain.
:puke:
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PDittie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-04 04:53 PM
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36. He needs to go on a diuretic
He looks like he's about to explode.

Literally.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-04 05:03 PM
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53. wonder if he can 'get it up" te he--he really looks out of shape!!
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-04 04:29 PM
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8. Why in the world
Can the popular media not find another, slightly more responsible voice for Christianity? I'd love to see Tony Campolo, John Shelby Spong, Cliff Kindy or about a thousand other people on the teevee, regularly giving voice to a brand of Christianity not steeped in fundamentalist oppression. I am very tired of seeing old Jerry's smug, overfed face piously spouting bigotry as if his was the only legitimate interpretation or representation of modern Christianity.
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bobbieinok Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-04 04:32 PM
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10. TV pundits sell US that Falwell et al are the 'true christians'
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bobbieinok Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-04 04:33 PM
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12. Spong et al are on because they're 'controversial,' ie not 'real xtians'
Edited on Thu Dec-02-04 04:35 PM by bobbieinok
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nostamj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-04 05:19 PM
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60. FOULWELL is not a 'christian'
he's a corporate fascist in the business of SELLING god.

nothing more.
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bobbieinok Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-04 04:30 PM
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9. didn't PRobertson have to get married because 'wife' was pregnant??
this, of course, may have been before he was 'born again'
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maveric Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-04 04:32 PM
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11. Oh Shit! There goes Falwell on the Afghan women getting to vote.
He didnt waste any time.
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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-04 04:34 PM
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13. and says CNN doesn't get it right all of the time, but if you watch Faux!!
WTF? why the hell is he there?
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BlueEyedSon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-04 04:39 PM
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19. Like he cares? He and his type would happily strip US womens voting rights
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-04 04:55 PM
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42. if i hear that Afgan women can vote one more time i will puke!!
that is not to say that I am not glad they can vote--but they politicalize the war all the time and they are never called on it!!
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-04 04:34 PM
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14. I can't BELIEVE he's sitting on the other side to HOST!!!
OMG. This is just disgusting. CNN can go to hell! I hope Carville makes him regret ever hosting that show. :grr:
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LifeDuringWartime Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-04 04:54 PM
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37. falwell is HOSTING??
i thought he was guesting!

:wtf:
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BlueEyedSon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-04 04:37 PM
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15. How does this hate merchant deserve to be on CNN???
Maybe Osama (another radical cleric) should sit in for Aaron Brown....
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maveric Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-04 04:38 PM
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16. Anyone have a spare barf bag?
Children in public schools being shortchanged by no allowing the 10 commandments.
This is really fucking sad.
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IHeart1993 Donating Member (236 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-04 04:38 PM
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17. Is it me or is Falwall the only one who's career...
was actually helped by this election?
And that's not a good thing.
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-04 04:39 PM
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18. Falwell...We need MASSIVE RESISTANCE with everybody praying
Edited on Thu Dec-02-04 04:40 PM by in_cog_ni_to
in schools. They can't put everybody in jail. :nuke::grr::nuke::grr::nuke::grr::nuke:

on edit. Guess what will start happening in schools all over the U.S. That's right! They will be praying and "I" will have to pull my son out of school. :grr:
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Cats Against Frist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-04 04:58 PM
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46. No -- they can pray as much as they fucking want
as long as the teacher doesn't sanction or lead it, and it doesn't disrupt my son's classroom. I've said all along that they can pray all god damn day on school grounds, so long as it doesn't become state sanctioned.
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-04 05:12 PM
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59. THAT'S the problem though.
Give them an inch and they'll take a mile! Before we know it we will have morning prayers, prayers at lunch, prayers at the football games, prayers before the assemblies. Just watch. I KNOW these people. They won't stop at just praying to themselves or in a private group. They HAVE to proselytize. They HAVE to shove that shit down everyone's throat. It's just the way they are. IMCPO
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Cats Against Frist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-04 05:37 PM
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64. Oh, I agree with you, and that IS EXACTLY their problem
because what they WANT is mandated prayer. So, you never give it to them, but yet, you open the best possible route for them to LEGALLY do what they can -- as in "not restricting the free exercise thereof," so it makes them look like ultra-fascist assholes that they are, when they grab for more.

They get tons of followers by lying about the ACLU and what the "liberals" don't want them to do at school. I say, let them do whatever the fuck they want, privately, that does not interfere with normal administrative school activities, or cause the administration to make exceptions for them -- that way, it's harder for them to claim they're being "persecuted." Poor things.
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Bleacher Creature Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-04 04:40 PM
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20. WTF -- he's everywhere!!!
Maybe I'm rewriting history to conform to my own beliefs, but wasn't Jerry Falwell considered to be too much of a fringe element to make regular appearances on so-called major news shows??

If so, has the media moved so far to the right that he's now a regular on shows like MTP, Crossfire, This Week, etc.??

And a final word of advice: TURN CNN OFF!! They are only getting worse and will drive you crazy!
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-04 04:49 PM
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29. Farwell telling the myth that if a student gets Sexuality Education--then
they will get pregnant (stand Repug stuff--grows old but sill people listen this stuff).

Someone saying Waxman Report is distorted and full and lies--says Waxman has an Agenda!! Using scare tactics.

Fowell--only way to guarentee no pregnancy is abstenance!! Whao what an eyeopener (says this is Bush's and God's plan).

Talking about taking information down from gov websites --only information that conforms to WH ideology is now an the website.
Planned Parenthood wants abstenance as well as comprehensive sex ecucation. Girls who take the virginity pledge--80% end up pregant!!

Carveill--Don't lie to kids!! --says Repugs lie to people like they lied about Irag
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tk2kewl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-04 04:20 PM
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68. thats like saying: teach some one to build a skyscraper
Edited on Fri Dec-03-04 04:22 PM by tk2kewl
and they will knock it down.

logic is completely absent from rightwing aruments. :mad:
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ernstbass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-04 04:42 PM
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21. I love Carville but
I agree with everything John Stewart said about Crossfire and I no longer watch it (plus I'm at work)
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BlueEyedSon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-04 04:46 PM
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23. And now its 10x worse, with Falwell sitting in for bow-tie boy.
I guess all the dicks are interchangeable.
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otohara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-04 04:48 PM
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27. Absoutely
everything Jon said!

here, here - CF makes me physically ill and bumbed out for the rest of the day - NO more!
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Placebo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-04 04:44 PM
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22. OMG, Carville said he masturbates!!!
:wow: "Something I have some experience with, and I've never gotten pregnant!"
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Ducks In A Row Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-04 04:55 PM
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41. did falwell head explode
and I mean either one

hahahahaha
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PDittie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-04 04:59 PM
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48. Wouldn't you, if you were married to a Romulan?
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Placebo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-04 05:02 PM
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52. But I like Romulans...
the real ones :P

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PDittie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-04 05:10 PM
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57. They might be incredible in the sack
But I'll never know.

Can't say the same for Matalin, though. (I mean, I feel sure...)
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Plausible Donating Member (386 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-04 04:46 PM
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24. Falwell is Evil GOP Bastard of the Month
http://www.evilgopbastards.com/


Evil GOP Bastard of the Month
Jerry Falwell
TV Preacher &
GOP Moon Monkey

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BlueEyedSon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-04 04:47 PM
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25. Falwell is a religious figurehead not a POLITICAL figurehead.
Why is he on Xfire?????
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-04 04:53 PM
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35. because he thinks he is a political figure and others think that also
Should his miniistry be tax exempt?? (I assume it is).

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nostamj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-04 05:23 PM
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61. that's the ENTIRE POINT....
there is no longer any difference from being "right" and being a "conservative christian"... you will only see MORE of this and frankly it's happening (along with institutionalized gay-bashing) fast than I thought possible.

and, as I said above, FOULWELL is a corporate fascist in the BUSINESS of selling "god"
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Goathead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-04 04:48 PM
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26. Falwell is getting applause?
They must have stacked the audience with students from Liberty Univ. What friggin' idiot!
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Placebo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-04 04:50 PM
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31. He did...
When they show shots of the crowd you see lots of LIBERTY UNIVERSITY sweatshirts, and white boys in little preppy suits.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-04 04:52 PM
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33. the Repug called Sen Waxman a Liberaaaalll--thought they might
lose that talk now that the election is over!!
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Plausible Donating Member (386 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-04 04:49 PM
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28. pls tell me carville is exposing him
I mean as a fake Christian no goood sob gop
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-04 04:50 PM
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30. Carville is doing great!!
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maveric Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-04 04:51 PM
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32. So Genevieve Wood wants to lie to kids and go back to the 13th
Edited on Thu Dec-02-04 04:52 PM by maveric
century.
I cannot stand that fundie witch!
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FubarFly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-04 04:52 PM
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34. So Jerry Falwell represents mainstream Christian thought,,
and James Carville is the voice of liberals.

No wonder this country is so fucked up. Hateful extremists like Falwell should not be legitimized, and Carville, as entertaining as he can be, is too much of an unprincipled, political Machievellian to be the voice of the left.

The end result here is that bigotry will move further into the mainstream, whereas true liberalism will continue to be demeaned, misrepresented, and marginalized.




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sonicx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-04 04:54 PM
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38. i really wish someone would ask him...
'if the media is liberal, why do we have you on right now?
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Ducks In A Row Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-04 04:54 PM
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39. only jon stewart being on again could make me watch that day
crossfire is pure out and out media whoring for bush
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Cats Against Frist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-04 04:54 PM
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40. When does Carville get his own radio show
I love that man -- he's off his nut. He's EXACTLY what we need.
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BlueEyedSon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-04 04:55 PM
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43. This bit of theater is elevating religious doctrine to the level
of rational, scientific, policy discourse... which it IS NOT.

Falwell wants to legislate Xtian valus:
NO premarital sex
NO divorce
etc.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-04 04:56 PM
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44. says Dems lost election because of values --the Repug says that!!
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Kansas Wyatt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-04 05:46 PM
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67. Just repeat it often enough
and the people will believe it, especially since NOBODY calls them on it.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-04 04:58 PM
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47. it will only get worse the next 4 years--Farwell is being shoved down
our thoats!! you are right--i have seen him on a lot of talk shows lately!!
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maveric Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-04 04:57 PM
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45. Have I told you HOW MUCH I HATE THESE PEOPLE?
I have to take a shower now.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-04 05:01 PM
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51. oh--how nice--F. wished you a Merry Christmas
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Plausible Donating Member (386 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-04 05:00 PM
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49. Sounds like Dems were set up
Carville talks about masturbating and Falwell touts values as reason dems lost.

CNN adds to the myth.

Although-------------- how many people would favor banning divorce and sex?

How many years you get for sex in the back seat according to Falwell?
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Placebo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-04 05:00 PM
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50. Jerry Fallwell saying "MERRY CHRISTMAS!"
Really creeps me out. :scared:
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Plausible Donating Member (386 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-04 05:04 PM
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54. The media is in bed wtih Bush and Falwell

How do we beat that.

Someone please make a real news network.
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Liberaltarian Donating Member (220 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-04 05:05 PM
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55. why didn't carville ever call falwell on his "beliefs" not being shared..?
universally, as falwell seems to think they should be.

not everyone believes that sex outside marriage is wrong,
nor that monogamy is the 'best way to go', as falwell insists.

how many DU'ers have toyed around(no pun intended) at all with 'the lifestyle'?

my wife and i have in the past- it was fun for both of us, and no big deal to either one of us, and if not for the onset of a disability, we'd probably still be playing.

if you and your mate have ever considered it, seek out a decent club and give it a try.
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u4ic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-04 05:07 PM
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56. Carville missed alot
the Afghan women's vote...many women were not allowed to vote because of their family (ie men in their family), or were told who to vote for. Afghanistan may not be under complete Taliban rule anymore, but the culture for women is DEFINITELY not free. This isn't a movie, that the cavalry rides in and saves the day. It will be a long, long time before women there will be treated with respect, or as equals.

Falwell: "God is getting the short straw". Um...I thought he was omnipotent?

Re: the sex ed programs whatever the conservative commentator's name was...passing out condoms doesn't mean they'll be used. (in response to STD's on the rise) Many are too embarrassed to ask for one, or buy them, especially if they're from conservative families.

All the misinformation regarding the sex ed programs (ie masturbating can make you pregnant). Yet he didn't point out that masturbation could HELP many teens stay abstinent, to get some relief from some very overpowering feelings. (I know, Falwell probably would have cut that down)

What a bunch of hooey. I hate that damn bell. How can you have a debate like that?

Towards the end of the show Carville started to get into gear, but it took quite awhile.
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Liberaltarian Donating Member (220 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-04 05:43 PM
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65. One thing that Carville DEFINITELY got WRONG...
Carville declared that "You can't get pregnant without having intercourse, period."

and he also said that you can't get pregnant from masturbation-

BUT

it is most definitely posible to get pregnant thru mutual masturbation, and without intercourse.
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cboy4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-04 05:11 PM
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58. Fat Slob
Looks like Mr. Christian has been stealing food
from the Liberty University of Hate's food bank for the
poor again.

Or maybe God is puting a pound of fat on Jerry every
time he says something hateful or lies about something.

Sorry for the fat jokes, but this guy makes my
blood boil like you wouldn't believe! :mad: :mad: :puke:
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against all enemies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-04 05:24 PM
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62. CNN Thanks you for helping it ratings. Please if you want to watch this
shit, don't try to get everyone else to, or are you a CNN intern?
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Liberaltarian Donating Member (220 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-04 05:44 PM
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66. I am not included in any ratings.
i have satellite tv, and i've NEVER hooked my reciever up to a phone line.
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Plausible Donating Member (386 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-04 05:25 PM
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63. Falwell is a
poster boy for abstinance.
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