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liberalnurse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-30-05 01:17 PM
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Taser saves the lives of Officers.
We never seem to hear enough about our "Daily Heroes" in Law Enforcement. The Taser is a valuable tool....and saves lives.


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An injury to a Dayton police officer sparked a car chase that ended near Enon on Sunday night.

An officer pulled over a car near the BP station at Main Street and Interstate 75 in Dayton about 8:20 p.m. for a traffic stop, Dayton Police Lt. Robert F. Mannix said.

The driver, Blake L. Adams, 41, no address given, opened his car door and the officer asked for his driver's license.

Adams wouldn't comply, put his car in reverse and struck the officer, Mannix said.

Police would not release the name of the officer involved.

Adams then reportedly tried to pull forward, Mannix said, but was blocked by another car.

He reversed, Mannix said, again striking the officer with the car door. The officer suffered a cut to his little finger that might require stitches.

Adams fled and at least three Dayton cruisers pursued the car through the downtown, on Springfield Street, past Wright-Patterson Air Force Base, through Fairborn and into Clark County.

He pulled over in front of Howard's IGA, 7581 Dayton Road, near Enon.

Adams again wouldn't comply, Mannix said, and officers shocked him with a stun gun a couple of times.

He hit his head on the pavement and was taken to Grandview Hospital in Dayton.

Adams was arrested on charges of felonious assault on a police officer, felony fleeing and eluding and resisting arrest.


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xynthee Donating Member (322 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-30-05 02:00 PM
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1. You must own stock in a Taser company or something!!
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Pastiche423 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-30-05 02:10 PM
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2. I believe you're on to something...
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liberalnurse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-30-05 03:28 PM
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7. Why would someone want to change the
subject from Hero's of Law Enforcement to LN has stock in Tasers. Thats just weak.....and a malicious diversion. I have always been forthcoming and direct.

I have a tremendous amount of admiration for someone who goes to work each knowing he/she may die trying to protect me....Anyone who goes to work having to wear Kevlar gets my attention.

I share this article to enlighten the readers of this board to the other side of Taser use. It works and saves lives....That includes all of us here!
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shance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-30-05 03:45 PM
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10. Tasers save lives like the 50 caliber Liberal Nurse. Dont kid yourself.
I am greatly offended by the misleading nature of this thread.

Tasers are killing and terrorizing instruments. That's it. For you to have essentially promote taser guns when they are a device that has been used to torture, traumatize, and kill individuals is both wrong and upsetting. Im sure it would be very upsetting to those who have had first hand experience with such a weapon.

Perhaps you might want to speak with a few family members of those who have been tasered (to death in some cases) by some overzealous law enforcement officers. Im sure theyd have a different perspective. I would imagine you would as well if you had witnessed a loved one being "saved" as you put it by a taser, or moreover if you had been on the receiving end, you would not be so pro taser.
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liberalnurse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-30-05 03:59 PM
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11. I'm disappointed by the
high level of social blindness to the need and effectiveness of a Taser intervention. I don't put myself in a situation where I would require being Tased. If I did, then I would of been someone rage fully out of control and unwilling to comply to safety orders by an officer. Indeed, I should get a taste of Taser. I share this with all sincerity.
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shance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-30-05 05:59 PM
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32. Whats your definition of sincerity? Sincere people have been killed by
the taser. Innocent VICTIMS. VICTIMS, liberal nurse.

You say you wouldnt put yourself in a situation where you would be tasered.

NEITHER DID THESE PEOPLE.

Some were attacked for no reason, NO REASON, by law enforcement officers.

They were the victims. They were not offenders as you carelessly accuse. The ones who used the tasers were the ones assaulting and in some cases murdering innocent people. If you choose to promote denial and untrue information, you do it at the expense at potentially hurting other innocent people. I guess that does not bother you.

I have no idea what your agenda is, but your promotion of such a deadly weapon only misleads and misinforms and attempts to justify a weapon that murders innocent people.
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RBHam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-30-05 03:41 PM
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9. Or ON something...
Either way...Party!
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bicentennial_baby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-30-05 02:13 PM
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3. Indeed
Methinks someone doth protesteth too much...
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Richard Steele Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-30-05 03:02 PM
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6. Yeah, someone sure does LUUUUV them Tasers!
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Zhade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-30-05 02:23 PM
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4. Tasers are a handy way to "accidentally" kill a "perp".
Fuck this apologist bullshit.

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jody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-30-05 02:58 PM
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5. The article said "stun gun" not a "taser". They are different weapons. n/t
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liberalnurse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-30-05 03:40 PM
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8. I heard it was a Taser from
a friend in the area of the arrest. They emailed me the story.
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jody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-30-05 04:31 PM
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15. Nonetheless, the article said "stun gun". n/t
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liberalnurse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-30-05 04:44 PM
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20. It was a Taser......
Edited on Mon May-30-05 04:45 PM by liberalnurse
I saw the perp.
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SouthernDem2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-30-05 05:24 PM
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27. Taser is a brand of stun gun. Taser is the company's name.
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jody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-30-05 05:39 PM
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29. Sorry, a "stun gun" is different than a "taser"
A stun gun is effective at arm's length and looks like this


A taser shoots a projectile some 20 feet and looks like this


Have a nice day. :hi:
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RBHam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-30-05 04:02 PM
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12. It's not the weapon, it's WHO WIELDS IT!
Training.
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liberalnurse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-30-05 04:12 PM
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13. Yes, effective training is essential.
As a whole....I find the officers very conscientious and professional.
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Pastiche423 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-30-05 04:22 PM
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14. As a whole?
How many officers have you observed? In how many states?

I don't know what has put you on this kick, but IMHO, you are dead wrong.

How many more deaths due to tasers have to happen until you concede that they are NOT "non-lethal" weapons?

"A police officer shot and killed a 67-year-old man in a wheelchair after authorities said he pointed a gun at officers when they went to his home to check on him. In that case, which remains under investigation, Stephens said the Taser was not a viable option."

Just one among too many examples...
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liberalnurse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-30-05 04:32 PM
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16. I've never seen any injury or death from a Taser.
I've seen about 200 Taser interventions from start to finish....many post Taser interventions, without any ill effect.Each resulted in a positive life saving story instead of a death or critically injured innocent bystander. There has been the frequent occasion that the Taser stopped someone from seriously harming them self.

The posted article shares how dangerous the violent,criminal culture really has become.
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Karenina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-30-05 04:36 PM
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18. Lemon Kool-Aid
is bad enough, but I tell ya, some of those red dyes....
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liberalnurse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-30-05 04:36 PM
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17. Feel free to start your own thread on
an old story as high-jacking is a common weak tactic......I post this article to enlighten readers to the reality of effective Taser use.
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Pastiche423 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-30-05 04:49 PM
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21. You posted an article
regarding a stun gun incident to enlighten readers to the reality of effective Taser use?

Nah, you have no agenda.





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liberalnurse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-30-05 04:59 PM
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23. The article was a mis-print.
It was a Taser. I know it for a fact.
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Pastiche423 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-30-05 05:06 PM
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24. You were there?
Btw, where and why have you obeserved 200 police officers using tasers?

Do you get a cheap thrill from torture?
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liberalnurse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-30-05 05:13 PM
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25. If I felt you had any degree of professionalism
or sincere desire for the personal information...I would share it. You have not been with the paramenters, so I will not disclose.
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Pastiche423 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-30-05 05:21 PM
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26. Or in other words...
you were "mis-stating".
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liberalnurse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-30-05 05:29 PM
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28. Here is another life saving story
Edited on Mon May-30-05 05:37 PM by liberalnurse
I cherrish......

By BILL DUFFIELD Times staff writer, Kettering Oakwood,OH -- March 19, 2003.

A nonlethal weapon designed to save lives and protect police officers,the M-26 TASER performed its duty again for the Kettering Police Department early in the morning ofTuesday, Mar. 11. The TASER, which fires two electric probes that are attached by wires to batteries, delivers a 50,000-voltshock for five seconds. The jolt usually leaves the most non-complying individual incapacitated without injury long enough for the officer to gain control by handcuffing the subject or by other means.

On Tuesday, the TASER helped save the life of a Kettering woman. Officer Gary Schomburg was sent to a Kettering residence on a report of a distraught, suicidal woman. On arrival, he was confronted with avery difficult situation -- the woman was sitting in a chair and had several cut marks to her wrists. Armed with a knife, the bleeding woman told Officer Schomburg she was going to kill herself. The officer warned the woman that if she did not put the knife down, he would use the M-26 TASER. She then brought the knife down onto her left wrist, forcing Schomburg to discharge the TASER. The weapon delivered its electro-muscular disruption which causes an override of the central nervous system. The woman was unable to continue cutting herself and she dropped the knife.After securing the knife, Schomburg performed first aid on the woman's wrists until paramedics arrived.

Kettering's police department was one of the first in Ohio to use the M-26 TASER. The TASER units havebeen in use for about two years. In 2002, Kettering officers used force 30 times, each incident deemed reasonable. Of those 30incidents, 17 involved the use of the TASER (56%). There were no reported injuries by the officers or the suspects and the incidents ended in a peaceful resolution. So far in 2003, the officers have had nine reports of force used, five resulting in the use of the TASER (55%).

As in 2002, no injuries have been reported so far this year.The department has trained officers in the proper use of the TASER, allowing the gun-like devices to be carried on duty. The department ordered enough of the TASERs to allow every trained officer on a given shift to carry one. According to sources, the M-26 TASER costs approximately $500. The cartridges used in the weaponcost $18 for three. Larger departments around the country are now being trained in using the TASER unit. Denver (Colo.)Police Chief Gerry Whitman announced his department will initially give 80 M-26 TASERs to officers with 100 more to follow, citing numbers from the Seattle Police Department that showed an 80-percent reduction of officer injuries since that department started using TASERs.
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AirAmFan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-30-05 05:53 PM
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31. What is this, an informercial? "Here is another life-saving story."
And what editor would allow the model number of the taser to appear so many times? Is this from the "Taser Times"? What's the URL?
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liberalnurse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-30-05 07:19 PM
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35. Having selective comprehension
can be such a barrier to actually hanging out with the group.
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shance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-30-05 06:01 PM
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33. Wheres your degree of professionalism in defending a murderous weapon?
n/t
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liberalnurse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-30-05 06:04 PM
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34. It is professional to defend the innocent.....
Have you read the articles I have shared? Try again please.
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jody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-30-05 04:41 PM
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19. I see your post attracted lots of critics. The Supreme Court has ruled
Edited on Mon May-30-05 05:16 PM by jody
that government and its agents such as law enforcement officers are not obligated to protect an individual unless that person is in custody.

Perhaps your critics should remember that the next time they or loved ones are threatened by an armed criminal.

Moreover, if police do not arrive in time to assist the victim, the victim must either attempt to defend them self or let the criminal do what she/he wants to do. :shrug:

If any of your critics ever need medical care in a hospital, they will find that nurses provide nearly all the personal care that patients receive. Nurses are overworked, underpaid, and under-appreciated.

Have a great day! :thumbsup:

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liberalnurse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-30-05 04:56 PM
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22. You make me chuckle......
because folks want it both ways don't they. It is soooo easy for the critics to sit back in the lounge chair and pass judgment like one would review a movie of the week. Let that criminal rush them while in their easy chair and they will be vomiting pea soup like Linda Blair.

I have seen many, many grateful potiential victims of rageful offenders who were Tasered. That includes tearful children!
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