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PittLib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-04 02:04 PM
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Anyone hear of Conservative Punk?
I can't believe I'm even acknowledging these twits ... but I only made it through the first paragraph of this column, and was ready to spit nails - so I sent the author a nice little response. I would certainly be open to firing off another if anyone is so inclined to fuel me - or please feel free to write your own.

http://www.conservativepunk.com/index.asp

You wrote:
In the middle of the night, you (the USA) hear a scream from your neighbor's house (a sovereign country). You go to the window see that your neighbor (the ruler of the said country) is beating the living crap out of his wife (the people in this sovereign country). This happens on a nightly basis. You have called the police (the UN) numerous times, but every time, the wife refuses to press charges because she is completely afraid for her life and that her husband's retaliation will be much worse. The ineffectual cops are powerless to do anything at this point. You are sick and tired of seeing that timid, poor bruised lady with downcast eyes. Each day, she looks worse and worse and is missing teeth. One day you see her arm in a sling. Her husband has fractured it in a drunken fit of rage. You try to convince her to go to a battered women's shelter and even offer her shelter. She meekly replies, "I'm so afraid he'll hurt me even more". You are convinced that if her husband isn't stopped, the poor woman will inevitably suffer permanent brain damage or possibly even death. It's midnight and you hear the screams once again. Do you just sit idly by and consider it a "domestic affair"? Or do you break down his door and put an end to the persecution? I sure know what I would do.

The problem this analogy is that you overestimated your own size and strength (or perhaps "misunderestimated" the husband). Not only did the little guy kick the shit out of you and the friends you convinced to join in ... the "lady" still isn't sure she wants to leave.

This "noble" analogy is total bullshit.

The more I read of your "views", the more I am convinced that you are complete fool. I love how you "libertarian" types side with Bush, under the uneducated assumption that he is a fiscal conservative thereby sacrificing any social liberalism you might believe - because it doesn't effect you. Gee - let me guess? ... are you a hetero white male? Ding ding ding - I think we have a winner! You think it's perfectly fine to jeopardize others civil liberties because you want to be a cry baby about paying taxes. Here's a news flash for you, champ: Bush isn't doing shit for you (unless of course you are one of those ever clever trust fund boys pretending to have an opinion of your own and rebelling against your oppressive daddy by pretending to be tortured). Speaking of torture ... I love how you never want to spend tax money within the US, but have no problem spending billions and billions of dollars on a nonsensical war, basically plummeting this country into massive debt. I wish they would bring back the draft - so I could watch smug little shits like you shit their pants when they are sent off. Go do a little reading up on this administration's record, and then maybe you'll be qualified to form an opinion.

Up Yours,
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Dogmudgeon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-04 02:06 PM
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1. I think they're called "Nazi Punks"
Resistance Records, the whole skinhead movement.

A lot of them have softened their lines since Nazis attract the attention of cops, and Conservatives don't.

--bkl
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Rich Hunt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-04 12:07 PM
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9. actually, that's not true at all

A lot of them were more 'left' when they were younger, but they had a shallow, knee-jerk sort of 'left' politics, and instead of moderating or refining their point of view, they react against the person they once were.

They're the sort of people whose politics are based in feelings and not reason. They've just switched sides because self-reflection is too difficult for them.

Some people start out at one extreme, then when they realize their politics were nutty, they go to the other extreme. Then, when they get to the other side, they bash all of the 'nutty' people they used to associate with.

A lot of them were just macho idiots to begin with, but not Nazis.
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amber dog democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-15-04 08:09 AM
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2. They're idiots
on the wrong side of a bell shaped curve.
But yes I heard a feature on NPR about them once. Go figure.
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amber dog democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-15-04 12:42 PM
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3. I want to ammend my remarks by adding I am no fan of Ted Nugent
either.
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chicagojoe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-04 02:32 AM
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5. Decent rock from a COMPLETE moron.
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Meehowski Donating Member (31 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-04 07:01 AM
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6. Unreal.............
“It seems like it’s deja vu all over again,”.............
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Dark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-24-04 02:45 PM
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8. Welcome to DU Meehowski!
:hi:
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Dark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-24-04 02:44 PM
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7. They are idiots.
Unfortunately the topics of such heavy-handed songs are almost always seeped in left wing propaganda, bumper sticker rallying calls and oversimplifications of otherwise complex topics.

Didn't they make fun of Kerry for NOT oversimplifying 'otherwise complex topics?
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sakabatou Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-04 11:13 PM
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10. What next?
Conservative classical, conservative rock, conservative pop :: shudder :: etc...
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jadedcherub Donating Member (367 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-04 11:53 PM
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11. Lead singer of the Misfits is a poster for that site. Didn't know he was
a conservative.

.jc.
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StrongbadTehAwesome Donating Member (623 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-04 05:25 AM
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12. Gotta love the "punks" who are raging FOR the machine.
Do they even understand what it is to be punk?
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rot0r_head Donating Member (335 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-29-04 09:52 AM
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14. $20 says this site was made by middle aged white men
This shit looks as closely connected to the "punk" scene as George Bush with reality. Forget these clowns.
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realisticphish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-29-04 02:33 AM
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13. In the words of Jello Biafro...
Nazi Punks Fuck Off!

:hippie: The Incorrigible Democrat
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Sinnerman Donating Member (323 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-30-04 05:28 PM
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15. I agree
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