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Sat Oct-23-04 02:59 AM
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Bush is a fascist , and I will defend America from him by any means. |
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If fascism is truly descending upon this land, and not being completely insensate I am forced to that conclusion, then those who would contemplate resistance must learn to exercise prudence ...
Oh, crap. I'm there with ya.
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Sat Oct-23-04 03:29 AM
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5. No, Bush isn't a fascist, his motivations are WORSE |
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Edited on Sat Oct-23-04 03:41 AM by HereSince1628
"Fascism" has become a pejorative term that has become unrooted from its historic reality.
At the end of the 1800's and the beginning of the 1900's many european nations were trying to deal with the transitions. In general there was a sense that a "modern" nation would harness the assets of industry, the energy of the population, and the leadership of government
This idea was widespread and expressed itself in various ways. Labor movements, socialism, communism, fascism and ultimately Nazism. Even the United States bought into the idea our Mercury head dime had on its reverse side the "Fasces" an Axe emerging from a bundle of shafts. That should serve as a pretty strong statement about the popularity of fascism. Fascism literally means bundling. The axe bundled in the shafts is a symbol of the bundling which can also be said as "unity" among business, labor and governance to move nations forward.
George Bush really doesn't give a rat's ass about moving the nation forward. His interest is in expanding the special status of the wealthy, which he refers to as the "investor class." Rather than protect the nation against the well known excesses of free range capitalism (which were the primary motivation for the labor movement, the socialist movement and communism) Bush seeks to return to a brutal past when robber barons could exploit both natural resources and labor for the sole purpose of making profits as large as "the market will bear." That sort of profiteering has nothing to do with the social and economic ideals of Fascism.
What Bush is pushing is the eradication of the ideals that set this nation in motion more than 200 years ago. At that time the Founders sought to creat a nation in which political and economic climates would allow a very imperfect people to strive toward liberty, justice, and equality amongst all. What BushCo seeks to do is to install a new peerage of the wealthy. By elimination of estate taxes and exploitation of mechanisms such as living trusts, the wealthy seek to entrench their wealth into a permanent class structure. They seek not much less than the establishment of a North American aristocratic and governing class. Blessed by birth with asymmetric assess to opportunity and perpetuated by the hard heel of the profiteer's boot, this system IS NOT NEARLY as idealistic as Fascism (despite the warts of Fascisms ugliness's)
Nonetheless, you are completely correct in stating that America MUST be defended against Bush and those like him. Hundreds of years of political struggle, including tens upon tens of thousands of patriots' lives lost in the struggle of our imperfect people to maintain the _opportunity_ to try to construct a more perfect nation for their descendants, would be wasted if we let Bush proceed on his agenda.
Resistance is absolutely necessary.
on edit spell checking by hand since dial-up is so slow...
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< They seek not much less than the establishment of a North American aristocratic and governing class. Blessed by birth with asymmetric assess to opportunity and perpetuated by the hard heel of the profiteer's boot, this system IS NOT NEARLY as idealistic as Fascism (despite the warts of Fascisms ugliness's)>
Resist we must!
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Sat Oct-23-04 05:39 AM
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6. I won't be driven out of my own country by those fascist assholes |
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Sun Oct-24-04 01:57 AM
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8. Put this Elephant on protest signs |
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Tue Oct-26-04 06:50 AM
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10. Be sure to exercise proper caution if you do... |
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Incensed conservatives--at least the ones around here--would probably not favor listening to your well-formed argument about the meaning of the sign over electing to stomp some ass.
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Tue Oct-26-04 08:03 AM
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11. ... +1, nor would I bother trying either |
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... it's just not worth the aggravation living among my neighbors with such deep hatred between us caused by confrontation
... If they choose to vote in a republican president let them unfuck the mess
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Wed Oct-27-04 03:09 AM
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12. I came up in a very rough neighborhood. |
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Conservatives don't scare me. I ate armed gangbangers for lunch.
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