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Kadie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-11 09:06 PM
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Tea Party holds rally at the State Capitol in Montana (want guns allowed in off-limits areas) -pics

Vince Vaccaro of Townsend, Mont. , sports his rifle during the Lewis and Clark Conservative Tea Party's "Constitution Rally", Friday, March 4, 2011, on the steps of the Sate Capitol in Helena, Mont. The Lewis & Clark's Conservative Tea Party group received permission to bring unloaded and secured weapons onto Capitol grounds to support allowing guns in off-limits areas. The organizer and conductor of the rally, Tim Ravndal, said the rally is about protecting Second Amendment rights by making legislators see and hear how important gun rights are.


Cyndi Forbes, a member of the Lewis and Clark Conservative Tea Party, attends Friday's "Constitution Rally" on the steps of the Sate Capitol in Helena, Mont. The Lewis & Clark's Conservative Tea Party group received permission to bring unloaded and secured weapons onto Capitol grounds to support allowing guns in off-limits areas. The organizer and conductor of the rally, Tim Ravndal, said the rally is about protecting Second Amendment rights by making legislators see and hear how important gun rights are.


Attendees of the Lewis and Clark Conservative Tea Party's "Constitution Rally" listen to the proceedings, Friday, March 4, 2011 on the steps of the Sate Capitol in Helena, Mont. The Lewis & Clark's Conservative Tea Party group received permission to bring unloaded and secured weapons onto Capitol grounds to support allowing guns in off-limits areas. The organizer and conductor of the rally, Tim Ravndal, said the rally is about protecting Second Amendment rights by making legislators see and hear how important gun rights are.


Trey Cathey, right, of Yellowstone County, adjusts his rifle, as he talks with John Richardson during the Lewis and Clark Conservative Tea Party's "Constitution Rally", on Friday, March 4, 2011 on the steps of the Sate Capitol in Helena, Mont. The Lewis & Clark's Conservative Tea Party group received permission to bring unloaded and secured weapons onto Capitol grounds to support allowing guns in off-limits areas. The organizer and conductor of the rally, Tim Ravndal, said the rally is about protecting Second Amendment rights by making legislators see and hear how important gun rights are.



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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-11 09:09 PM
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Sonoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-11 09:15 PM
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6. The first guy certainly is. That was my first thought.
"My first chance not to be a pencil-dick."

And poor Cyndi looks like she either wears or wants one. "Strap it on, Cyndi."

Firearms, the new SUV (and I own both, but I have no doubts about my....)

Sonoman
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pacalo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-11 09:36 PM
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17. Vince Vaccaro of Townsend, Mont., needs to wash his jeans at least once a month.
Edited on Fri Mar-04-11 09:38 PM by pacalo
Notice no one's standing near him -- & it isn't because of his big ol' gun.

:rofl:
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TheCowsCameHome Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-11 09:44 PM
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20. ......"when they pry 'em from his cold, dead legs"
Vince isn't big on hygiene.
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PavePusher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-06-11 08:49 PM
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60. Gee, maybe the man works for living.
Or we could just play the bigot role....
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Foo Fighter Donating Member (621 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-11 09:42 PM
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19. LOL!
Thanks for your comment on Cyndi. I needed a good laugh!


"Firearms, the new SUV (and I own both, but I have no doubts about my....)"

OK, I'd like to take you at your word but I'm afraid I'll need to see some pics. ;)
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AtheistCrusader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-05-11 10:54 PM
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41. Projection.
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Sonoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-11 09:12 PM
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2. Hey, lard-ass Cyndi, how quickly can you throw down with mittens on?
Those thing are way too bulky to work as shooters' gloves.

I think we should start staging Sex Toy Rallies and see what happens.

Sonoman
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AtheistCrusader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-05-11 10:54 PM
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42. These weapons are unloaded anyway.
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GreenStormCloud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-11 09:36 AM
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128. She is wearing gloves, not mittens. She can shoot much faster WITH a gun than without. N/T
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ananda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-11 09:12 PM
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3. Euww.
Those people are so creepy.
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fittosurvive Donating Member (538 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-11 09:37 PM
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18. This is definitely not a rally for those of us with cosmopolitan inclinations.
Edited on Fri Mar-04-11 09:38 PM by fittosurvive
Even so, I support their freedom to vent in the light, as opposed to forcing them to conspire in the dark.
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Oneka Donating Member (319 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-05-11 01:13 AM
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27. well said.
These are the folks still willing to work within the system to bring about the restoration of gun rights.

God help us if they should fail, for then we will see the darker elements of gun rights advocacy on display.



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jpak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-05-11 08:16 AM
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31. Bullshit - they display their guns for political intimidation
yup
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Oneka Donating Member (319 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-05-11 10:48 PM
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40. Of course they do.
Politics is nothing more then naked force. Unions intimidate regularly, as do many other advocacy groups.

It has happened throughout our history in the USA, Read: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deacons_for_Defense_and_Justice

No real political change happens here in America without at least the threat of force.
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Tuesday Afternoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-06-11 11:35 AM
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45. welcome to DU
I see you have met jpak...enjoy :D
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-11 02:03 PM
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jpak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-06-11 12:25 PM
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47. Bullshit - Teabagger/GOP fascists can kiss my ass
yup
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Oneka Donating Member (319 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-06-11 03:39 PM
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51. Thanks for the warm welcome.
And yes, Jpak has offered me a fine (how-do-ya-do)


along with some very thought provoking insights.


Heh....Yup.
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lawodevolution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-06-11 06:06 PM
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58. Jpak thinks that limiting what the government can do to private citizens is authoritarian
Think of those poor wittle aspiwewing kim Jung ils out there. What about theiw wights?
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jpak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-06-11 09:11 PM
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64. I believe in a civil democracy where guns are for hunting - not political intimidation
I also firmly believe that gun-toting teabaggers are fucking assholes

and I believe in

spell-checkers

yup!

:rofl:
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-06-11 09:18 PM
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X_Digger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-06-11 09:21 PM
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66. Only one in five gun owners hunt.
That 'gunz r fer huntin' thing? Doesn't fly with the majority of gun owners.

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jpak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-06-11 10:07 PM
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69. Then they should buy a hunting license when they register their guns
problem solved

yup
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X_Digger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-06-11 10:47 PM
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72. Only a few states register guns..
And that isn't likely to change.

Even so, there's a federal 11% excise tax on guns and ammunition- all owners pay that, and the proceeds go toward wildlife conservation.

You are in the minority, and it isn't likely to change any time soon.

You're out of touch with current gun owners. Go find a rocking chair and talk about the 'good old days'.
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PavePusher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-07-11 01:27 AM
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87. "solve" what "problem"?
Specifics, please....
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spin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-11 05:41 PM
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165. You can't register a firearm in Florida. It against the law...

790.335 Prohibition of registration of firearms; electronic records.

(1) LEGISLATIVE FINDINGS AND INTENT.--

(a) The Legislature finds and declares that:

1. The right of individuals to keep and bear arms is guaranteed under both the Second Amendment to the United States Constitution and s. 8, Art. I of the State Constitution.

2. A list, record, or registry of legally owned firearms or law-abiding firearm owners is not a law enforcement tool and can become an instrument for profiling, harassing, or abusing law-abiding citizens based on their choice to own a firearm and exercise their Second Amendment right to keep and bear arms as guaranteed under the United States Constitution. Further, such a list, record, or registry has the potential to fall into the wrong hands and become a shopping list for thieves.

3. A list, record, or registry of legally owned firearms or law-abiding firearm owners is not a tool for fighting terrorism, but rather is an instrument that can be used as a means to profile innocent citizens and to harass and abuse American citizens based solely on their choice to own firearms and exercise their Second Amendment right to keep and bear arms as guaranteed under the United States Constitution.

4. Law-abiding firearm owners whose names have been illegally recorded in a list, record, or registry are entitled to redress.
http://law.onecle.com/florida/crimes/790.335.html
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Starboard Tack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-07-11 12:15 AM
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77. Therein lies the problem
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PavePusher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-07-11 01:27 AM
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88. What "problem"?
Specifics, please...
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bellcrank Donating Member (80 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-24-11 12:39 PM
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169. Maybe you should start with generalities...even though that will only get you crickets.
:eyes:

I have yet to see any rational response to your 'what problem' query...
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X_Digger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-07-11 08:49 AM
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94. Why is that a problem?
Go pull up a rocking chair beside Jpak and compare notes on the 'good old days'.
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SteveM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-11 02:07 PM
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147. Could you explain? Thanks. nt
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Oneka Donating Member (319 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-06-11 09:57 PM
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67. Do you beleive
that police and military should be stripped of their guns along with our "non hunting" citizens?
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jpak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-06-11 10:06 PM
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68. No - that's just plain stupid
try again

yup
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Oneka Donating Member (319 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-06-11 10:38 PM
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70. Imagine
the political intimidation if only the military, police, and a few hunters were "allowed" to own guns.

Political dissent/FAIL

Redress of grievances/FAIL

Free press/FAIL

Freedom to assemble/FAIL

Civil democracy/FAIL


Great plan.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-06-11 10:42 PM
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Oneka Donating Member (319 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-06-11 10:55 PM
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73. does most of the EU "fail" too?
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Starboard Tack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-07-11 12:31 AM
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80. Geert Wilders is a fucking neo-nazi
Why would you cite him as a representative of the EU?
Europe actually has progressed over the past 200 years in spite of people like Wilders.
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Oneka Donating Member (319 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-07-11 12:37 AM
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82. Freedom of speech isn't allways pretty.
But must be protected no matter the source. anything less is advocating tyranny.
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Starboard Tack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-07-11 04:55 AM
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90. Agreed
Just curious as to why you would reference it here.
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Oneka Donating Member (319 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-07-11 07:02 AM
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93. just an example
of how quickly,in a mostly gun free society, unpopular free speech becomes unLAWFUL speech.

Geert Wilders, Rachel Maddow, Glen Beck, it doesn't matter who, when a government has a monopoly on force, those voices are quickly
silenced.
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jpak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-07-11 05:43 AM
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92. Neo-Nazi assholes and gun-toting teabaggers can kiss my liberal Democratic ass
yup
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-09-11 12:33 AM
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SteveM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-11 02:10 PM
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149. Your "ass" may be liberal with its emit; otherwise; you ain't liberal. nt
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Hoyt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-11 09:19 AM
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133. If you have guns for political reasons, you can leave them at home until the revolution.

What political purpose requires carrying guns into public parks, restaurants, bars, churches, and the like? Leave em at home.
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friendly_iconoclast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-11 12:10 PM
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137. If it's good enough for the Black Panthers, it's good enough for anyone else.
The Fourteenth Amendment- how does that work again?
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Hoyt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-11 12:25 PM
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138. You seem to have a real issue with the Black Panthers.

Not sure I understand, but I guess you do. This forum turns stranger and stranger.
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friendly_iconoclast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-11 01:03 PM
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141. Not the Panthers per se, but their status as "THOSE people, the ones that shouldn't have guns"
They scared the shit out of (or "caused moral harm to", if you like) parts of the white establishment, so one of their practices

was outlawed.


Something that hadn't been a problem became one when the "wrong" sort of people started doing it.
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Oneka Donating Member (319 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-11 01:27 PM
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142. Congratulations.
You've managed to attack 2 of my constitutionally protected rights, in one post.

Good thing for the rest of us, that Hoyt's, "political purpose" smell test, Is
not required to exercise our civil rights.

I don't recall granting you the authority to abuse any of my rights,
including the 1st and 2nd.
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SteveM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-11 02:08 PM
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148. It's probably his plan, alright. nt
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sabo_tabby Donating Member (87 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-11 09:28 PM
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166. What's with the "yup" thing?
Edited on Sat Jul-23-11 09:29 PM by sabo_tabby
Does it mean something I don't know about?

I knew a fellow once with Tourette's Syndrome who did that. But that was when he was speaking. I don't think it came across while typing.

I apologize if I'm accidentally making fun of your condition. I assure you offense is not willfully given.
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Starboard Tack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-07-11 12:22 AM
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79. Police - absolutely
Military, can't say I've seen any of them hangin' out in the mall carrying weapons lately.
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rl6214 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-09-11 12:29 AM
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115. and I believe in spell-checkers
Yup, and if we wanted to point out all your errors, we'd be assholes too.
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oneshooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-09-11 10:42 PM
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124.  Civil? When have you ever been civil in your posts?
"fucking assholes"
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SteveM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-11 02:05 PM
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145. Uh, you didn't spell "yup" right. Try "yep." Or maybe its "yip." nt
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SteveM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-11 01:59 PM
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143. Oh, c'mon. You don't care about the gun-control issue. It's about you. nt
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Starboard Tack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-07-11 12:17 AM
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78. And what would be the lighter elements?
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Oneka Donating Member (319 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-07-11 12:31 AM
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81. The NRA! nt
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Starboard Tack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-07-11 04:56 AM
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91. You must be joking
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GreenStormCloud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-11 09:45 AM
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129. The NRA believes in working within the system and does not advocate breaking any laws.
Some of the more radical of the pro-gun people are ready to do illegal things.
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PavePusher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-06-11 05:53 PM
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56. "not a rally for those of us with cosmopolitan inclinations"
That sounds rather patronising and elitist. Hopefully, just poor phrasing?
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SteveM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-11 02:14 PM
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150. Yeah, noticed that tired stereotype as well. Goes along with Town&Gown.
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PavePusher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-11 04:07 PM
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163. And, most tellingly, there was no response. n/t
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onethatcares Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-11 09:24 PM
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12. exotic ak47, what the fark is wrong with that picture.
the idiot is not even supporting a Made In America firearm company.

I tell ya, guns will be the death of us all, unless of course they change the formula on catfood.
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Hoopla Phil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-05-11 11:48 AM
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37. See my post below #35. In addition it (the stock) most likely is made in

America for 922 compliance reasons.
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14thColony Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-05-11 01:00 PM
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39. Your second sentence is an instant classic.
That might just have to become my new sig line, properly citing you of course.
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Flyboy_451 Donating Member (116 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-06-11 05:05 PM
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53. actually, it is most likely a hardwood laminate
While they are an esthetically pleasing stock, they are also very utilitarian. They are made by laminating several layers of dense, hardwoods together with heat and epoxy type resins. This makes them far less susceptible to moisture invasion, softening of the wood and various other possible problems with tradition wood stocks.

JW
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PavePusher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-06-11 05:59 PM
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57. It could very well have been made in the U.S.
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SteveM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-11 02:19 PM
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151. Ak 47s can be built anywhere. And are.
Please note that the rate of serious crime (including murder) has fallen for the last 15 years, even as the number of firearms in civilian hands has gone up by well over 100,000,000. This does not prove that "more guns = less crime," but it fails to prove the old hack expression (still adhered to by many centrist Democrats) "more guns = more crime."

My cat enjoyed dry formula and most of what I was eating. How about yours?
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Hoopla Phil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-05-11 11:46 AM
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35. Not exotic. It's just a plane jane laminated stock. I looks good just
because it is new. It's a very cheap way of making stocks - it's basically plywood.
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Hoopla Phil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-05-11 11:47 AM
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36. self delete: wrong place
Edited on Sat Mar-05-11 11:49 AM by Hoopla Phil
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rl6214 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-09-11 12:34 AM
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117. Grow up
Pencil -dix
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bluedigger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-11 09:47 PM
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21. Looks like a birch laminate on that Commie rifle.
:wtf:
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GreenStormCloud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-05-11 11:08 PM
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44. No. It is just common plywood. Standard for AK-47 pattern rifles. N/T
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Dawson Leery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-11 09:14 PM
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5. The militia terrorists have to make a scene everytime.
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PavePusher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-07-11 01:26 AM
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86. "militia terrorists"?
Cite to evidence, or are you merely perpetuating Republican fear-mongering?
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Hoyt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-07-11 05:08 PM
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97. Seems pretty obvious to me. But too many who promote gun carrying are accepting of such terrorists.
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PavePusher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-07-11 08:59 PM
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99. Again, please present this evidence that you claim is so "obvious". n/t
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SteveM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-11 02:27 PM
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154. Could you please i.d. the "terrorists," and explain why they are such? Thanks.
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SteveM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-11 02:27 PM
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153. #P-p-f-f-t# "Who broke wind?" "Uh, he just left the room." nt
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msongs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-11 09:15 PM
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7. so they can protect themselves from that African-American in the white house is what they mean nt
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rl6214 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-09-11 12:45 AM
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118. Bullshit
Bullshit
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SteveM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-11 02:29 PM
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155. Actually, Regan protected us from the African-Americans in the Cali Statehouse.
But you knew that, right?
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-11 09:18 PM
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GeorgiaPeach Donating Member (52 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-11 09:19 PM
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9. Their deep devotion to their cold, deadly weapons is just so very.... unrequited.
You can feel the longing. It's so sad their guns can't love them back!
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SteveM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-11 02:30 PM
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156. Why are gun-controllers so obsessed with notions of "gun love?" Thanks.
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X_Digger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-11 04:55 PM
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164. Awww, elvis has left the building..
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Bjorn Against Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-11 09:24 PM
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11. Could you just imagine what FOX would say if people marched in Madison with guns?
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TheCowsCameHome Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-11 09:24 PM
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13. Cyndi: "Available now from the Klan's Winterwear Kollection, this lovely ensemble consisting of..."
Good grief.
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GreenStormCloud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-11 09:49 AM
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131. When you have to resort to smears, then you know you have lost.
Do you have proof that she is a member of the KKK? Nope. Didn't think so. But that didn't stop you from throwing the accusation around. Do you routinely call all gun carriers KKK members?
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SteveM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-11 02:32 PM
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157. Gun-controllers do the "smear" here everyday. They know they've lost.
The real question cows, et al should ponder is why they choose to unload here. Do they do this elsewhere with regularity, or is it just a proper "progressive" way to relieve some kind of hatred?
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teabaghater Donating Member (89 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-11 09:26 PM
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14. This teabagger bullshit
and the current affairs these days take me back a few years.....Does any of this sound kind of like what's happening today?

"A South politician preaches to the poor white man
"You got more than blacks, don't complain
You're better than them, you been born with white skin" they explain
And the Negro's name
Is used it is plain
For the politician's gain
As he rises to fame
And the poor white remains
On the caboose of the train
But it ain't him to blame
He's only a pawn in their game.

The deputy sheriffs, the soldiers, the governors get paid
And the marshals and cops get the same
But the poor white man's used in the hands of them all like a tool
He's taught in his school
From the start by the rule
That the laws are with him
To protect his white skin
To keep up his hate
So he never thinks straight
'Bout the shape that he's in
But it ain't him to blame
He's only a pawn in their game.

From the poverty shacks, he looks from the cracks to the tracks
And the hoof beats pound in his brain
And he's taught how to walk in a pack
Shoot in the back
With his fist in a clinch
To hang and to lynch
To hide 'neath the hood
To kill with no pain
Like a dog on a chain
He ain't got no name
But it ain't him to blame
He's only a pawn in their game."

Pawn in their Game- B. Dylan
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SteveM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-11 02:35 PM
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158. Most gun-control laws are based on Jim Crow gun laws...
What do you think the odds are that B. Dylan has bodyguards?
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Skip_In_Boulder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-11 09:28 PM
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15. Doesn't look like there are too many people there. n/t
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pacalo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-11 09:30 PM
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16. What splendidly AWESOME logic! What'll the looney-toons think of next?!
Now Grandma can pack heat when she goes to Sack O' Spuds! Her scooter will get the right of way at the produce section every time.



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madinmaryland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-11 09:47 PM
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22. Wow! What a collection of insecure, psychologically and mentally undeveloped losers.
:wow:

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HuckleB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-11 09:48 PM
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23. +1
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jpak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-05-11 08:29 AM
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32. +2
yup
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PavePusher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-06-11 08:49 PM
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61. And I'm sure you have evidence to support your bigotry, amIright? n/t
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Starboard Tack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-07-11 12:40 AM
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83. A picture speaks a thousand words!
Do you really identify with these people?
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PavePusher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-07-11 01:22 AM
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85. "these people"....
What, exactly, do you mean by that phrase?

And what, exactly, do those pictures speak? Can you prove that those people fit the pejoratives that were used against them?
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Starboard Tack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-07-11 04:53 AM
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89. I asked if you identify with the folks in the pix
What the pictures speak to you is what I'm curious about. They make me feel sad, knowing that I live in a society where people behave like this. If they had been naked they would have been arrested, but brandishing lethal weapons is OK
Let's get real. Guns have their place and it's not at a political rally or demonstration. Sorry, but that's against the rules of any civilized society.
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PavePusher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-07-11 03:38 PM
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95. No-one was "brandishing".
You need to learn the proper nomenclature pertaining to bearing arms.

Also, please cite to these "rules" you speak of. Inquiring minds, etc....
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Starboard Tack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-08-11 11:24 AM
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110. Nomenclature? Don't brandish words you don't understand
Just like guns they can backfire.

Definition of NOMENCLATURE
1
: name, designation
2
: the act or process or an instance of naming
3
a : a system or set of terms or symbols especially in a particular science, discipline, or art b : an international system of standardized New Latin names used in biology for kinds and groups of kinds of animals and plants

Definition of BRANDISH
transitive verb
1
: to shake or wave (as a weapon) menacingly
2
: to exhibit in an ostentatious or aggressive manner
See brandish defined for English-language learners »
Examples of BRANDISH

1. She brandished a stick at the dog.
2. I could see that he was brandishing a knife.
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oneshooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-08-11 11:30 AM
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111. " to exhibit in an ostentatious or aggressive manner"
I saw no "ostentatious or aggressive manner" in the photos. The nearest anyones hands were to the weapon was the fellow adjusting the sling placement on his shoulder.

Another FAIL.

Oneshooter
Armed and Livin in Texas
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Starboard Tack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-08-11 12:38 PM
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112. Just because you don't see it means I fail?
Are you a school teacher who feels the need to pass or fail people? Seems a little arrogant.
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PavePusher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-09-11 12:24 AM
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114. You fail because you can't explain it.
Yet you persist in your accusation. The arrogance (and ignorance) is yours, and yours alone.
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SteveM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-11 02:41 PM
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160. Your argument was effectively countered. Is that arrogant? nt
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PavePusher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-08-11 01:41 PM
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113. Please point out the "shake or wave (as a weapon) menacingly"...
or the "exhibit in an ostentatious or aggressive manner".

Hint: "bearing arms" is not inherently ostentatious or aggressive.
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rl6214 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-09-11 12:51 AM
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119. Wrong and wrong
A gun cannot backfire, it can misfire and your definition of brandishing does not match the picture as they were not shaking or waving menacingly nor were they exhibiting in an ostentatious or aggressive manner.

Fail
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PavePusher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-09-11 11:12 PM
Response to Reply #110
125. 36+ hours and no response.
I guess you finally read that dictionary, eh?
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oneshooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-11 08:09 AM
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127.  Do you really expect one? They run and hide in their caves when spanked. n/t
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SteveM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-11 02:40 PM
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159. Guns shouldn't be "...at a political rally or demonstration?" Excuse me...
but there are numerous gun-control advocates who have armed bodyguards with them, at their rallies and elsewhere. See Bloomberg, Daly, Feinstein (she once packed), Jodie Foster (great actress), etc. They don't strike me as particularly uncivilized.
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Hoyt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-11 09:21 AM
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134. Defending TBaggers -- who are the real bigots -- again?
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friendly_iconoclast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-11 10:26 PM
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24. Feh. The Black Panthers did it first, in California- and *their* guns were loaded
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Hoopla Phil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-05-11 11:58 AM
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38. Thanks for the pictures and links. A few comments. . .
First I find the responses in your links to be very interesting. The contrast to the responses in this post is very enlightening.

Second is the first picture with all the long guns being held in the manor they are. That may be perceived as brandishing, though I'm not sure. I also note that the guns being carried at the Tea party event are all slung.

Thanks again for the post.
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Tuesday Afternoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-06-11 06:10 PM
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59. thank you for this post
:patriot:
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-11 11:42 PM
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Callisto32 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-05-11 08:08 AM
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29. The political Doppler effect....
intriguing, indeed.
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PavePusher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-06-11 05:48 PM
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55. And, apparently, a little too strong for some. Oh well. n/t
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Katya Mullethov Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-06-11 08:56 PM
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63. You ever get ta thinkin so fast sometimes ..... everything turns red ?
Lookattis ..
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rrneck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-05-11 12:03 AM
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26. Sheeeeiitt. nt
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-05-11 08:03 AM
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jpak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-05-11 08:12 AM
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30. Open Carry for Political Intimidation
yup
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onehandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-05-11 09:41 AM
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33. All thinking about 'second amendment remedies' for a Black President. nt
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rl6214 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-09-11 12:54 AM
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120. Bullshit
Bullshit, what does 2nd amendment have to do with our president?

Stupid post.
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Hoyt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-11 12:50 PM
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139. Have you forgotten TBaggers carrying/buying guns yelling about "taking our country back."

Yes, it is a stupid idea -- but it did happen and is within character.
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onehandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-05-11 09:46 AM
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34. Additionally, is this another case of the porta-potties outnumbering freepers?
Edited on Sat Mar-05-11 09:49 AM by onehandle
'Don't stand too close together so we look like a bigger crowd.'

Here's a real crowd:



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rl6214 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-09-11 12:56 AM
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121. UMMMM
Pssst, they're indoors, they have to stand close together.
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GreenStormCloud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-05-11 11:07 PM
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43. And nothing happened. Nobody got shot.
Just some folks carrying guns around.
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jpak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-06-11 12:36 PM
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48. No one got shot because the government disarmed these fascist teabaggin' assholes
yup
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friendly_iconoclast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-06-11 04:26 PM
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52. No one got shot when the Panthers brought *loaded* guns to the CA capitol.
I guess that means the practice is a safe one....
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jpak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-06-11 05:10 PM
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54. The Panthers brought loaded guns to intimidate their political opponents - they suck
along with the asshole MT teabaggers

yup
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Katya Mullethov Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-06-11 08:52 PM
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62. No one got shot
But we all got fucked .
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rl6214 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-09-11 12:57 AM
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122. Do you ever listen to the shit
that spews out of your mouth.
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Starboard Tack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-07-11 12:49 AM
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84. Did I miss something?
Was someone supposed to get shot? Silly me, of course someone was supposed to get shot. Otherwise, why all the guns? Guess that person who they wanted to shoot forgot to show up.
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Ken_Fish Donating Member (520 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-06-11 12:14 PM
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46. Can believe no one caught pic one error. Its not
a rifle but a shotgun. See those and the benelli super 90 in 3 gun matches.

I bet the antis would shit pants over that "street sweeper" assault shotgun of DEATH...

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oneshooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-06-11 01:06 PM
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49.  Also all of the weapons are unloaded. n/t
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Hoyt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-07-11 09:32 PM
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102. How can you tell that?

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oneshooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-07-11 09:37 PM
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103.  No magazines in place. n/t
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X_Digger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-07-11 10:19 PM
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106. I guess it's due to the fact that.. he can read..
"received permission to bring unloaded and secured weapons"..

fucking duh.
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Hoyt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-11 12:51 PM
Response to Reply #49
140. Were you there?
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ileus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-06-11 03:36 PM
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50. I thought it was a converted Saiga shotgun...
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Straw Man Donating Member (986 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-06-11 11:44 PM
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76. It is.
He said he sees "those and the Benelli..."
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-06-11 11:04 PM
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X_Digger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-06-11 11:40 PM
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75. I bet our huffpo "writers" about wet their pants. n/t
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RSillsbee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-07-11 03:41 PM
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96. I admit I did kinda like that fake AK NT
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Ken_Fish Donating Member (520 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-07-11 05:49 PM
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98. I hate "stupid" quotes. When used to imply
something a poster will just not say. Such as that post was really pointless and stupid.
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Hoyt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-07-11 09:30 PM
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100. No implications. I made a direct reference to pro-gunners who enjoy such perverse photos.

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Ken_Fish Donating Member (520 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-07-11 09:31 PM
Response to Reply #100
101. Perverse like two guys kissing
baby out of wedlock. Sex before marriage, care to judge a bit more.

Prohibitionists are funny.
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Hoyt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-07-11 09:38 PM
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104. More like "loving"guns.
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Ken_Fish Donating Member (520 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-07-11 10:00 PM
Response to Reply #104
105. So its really a morality thing for you
not really rooted in fact, just a reaction to someone else's behavior?
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Hoyt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-08-11 01:18 AM
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107. I just don't think men should marry or openly love their guns in public.
Edited on Tue Mar-08-11 01:20 AM by Hoyt

I'm fine with whatever one does with their guns in the privacy of their own home. Just don't do it in public.
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Katya Mullethov Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-08-11 01:53 AM
Response to Reply #107
108. "We're here , some queer "
"But we're all in your face ! "
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Hoyt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-08-11 08:34 AM
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109. "Guns" really are different from "people." Guns should not be in public, people should.
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rl6214 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-09-11 01:01 AM
Response to Reply #109
123. Bullshit
This is how I'm going to respond to stupid posts.


Bullshit.
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friendly_iconoclast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-11 01:12 AM
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126. Don't get upset. This is how the Westboro school of gun control operates
If you think guns are evil, and you're on a mission to fight said evil, popularity is of little relevance.

Success is optional, as it is more important to be loudly and publicly on the "right" side of the issue.


The threats of dire consequences and claims of moral superiority go with the territory, and can be ignored as they

are articles of faith.
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Marengo Donating Member (296 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-11 10:06 AM
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132. Yes, you did imply something
That you chose to include the word liberal bracketed in quotation marks is an obvious implication. You may, of course, assume any position on the RKBA, but at least have the courage to declare it plainly. Absurd and comical contortions such as "No implications. I made a direct reference to pro-gunners who enjoy such perverse photos." don't enhance your credibility.
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Marengo Donating Member (296 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-11 09:48 AM
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130. Self-delete...question already asked N/T
Edited on Thu Mar-10-11 09:49 AM by Marengo



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jpak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-11 09:23 AM
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135. K&R for Teabagger Terrorist Wannabe suckage
yup
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RSillsbee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-11 11:25 AM
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136. Slow day on google? NT
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Hoopla Phil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-11 02:22 PM
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152. LMFAO at the "R" in the "K&R".
Just how prey tell, did you do that?
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gejohnston Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-11 03:57 PM
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161. Lazarus
I just renamed the thread.
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Bold Lib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-11 04:03 PM
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162. Phoenix
I just re-renamed the thread.
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ellie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-24-11 12:17 PM
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167. Maybe all of these idiots will accidentally
shoot themselves or each other.
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gejohnston Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-24-11 12:29 PM
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168. you just provided me with another example of
gun control advocates are more about pearl clutching and regional bigotry and nothing about safe streets or civilized society, or any of those other lofty goals.
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ileus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-11 07:15 AM
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170. That Saiga shotgun is worth a mint now....hope he held onto it.
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