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RSillsbee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-11 07:42 PM
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This Just In , Omaha Gang bangers Ignore Omaha's Strict Gun Laws
Who'd a thunk it ?

Another Shooting In Same Area As Saturday's Murder
Victim reportedly in critical condition
Police are investigating a shooting that critically injured one person Sunday afternoon just blocks away from where a 17-year-old Omaha girl was shot to death Saturday afternoon.
Posted: 4:01 PM Aug 28, 2011
Reporter: John Chapman
Email Address: sixonline@wowt.com

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http://www.wowt.com/home/headlines/Another_Shooting__128563323.html

To be fair this isn't the best neighborhood in the big O
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iverglas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-11 08:02 PM
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1. you're confused
Either

- somebody in legal possession of guns transferred them illegally to these individuals (or to someone who then transferred them to these individuals)

or

- somebody not eligible to purchase a firearm legally managed to do it anyway (you know: private sale, be it garage or gun show, or background check failure at dealer)

or

- somebody in legal possession of firearms stored them so negligently that they were stolen by these individuals (or someone who then transferred them to these individuals)

or

- a bunch of guns fell from the sky and landed in these individuals' hands

I'm betting it must have been that last one.

No one was ever in legal possession of the firearm used to commit those crimes. No one, not nowhere, not nowhen. There was just nothing that could have been done to keep that gun out of those hands. No, sirree bob, nothing at all.
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RSillsbee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-11 08:08 PM
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2. I'm betting it must have been that last one.
Couldn't have been the second one

Omaha has strict registration and you must obtain a certificate of permission from OPD before purchasing a handgun, which must hen be presented to the OPD for registering
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iverglas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-11 08:16 PM
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4. ahhhh
Omaha has strict registration and you must obtain a certificate of permission from OPD before purchasing a handgun, which must hen be presented to the OPD for registering

I must admit that although I've been to Iowa and Missouri, I didn't make it to the Nebraska border, so I missed the view of the moat around Omaha.

Perhaps it's been constructed since then, anyway, though.
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AtheistCrusader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-11 09:33 PM
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6. You forgot at least one
or

- someone hand-manufactured the weapon inside the US, on standard metalworking equipment available in most middle-school metal shops

or

- someone imported them illicitly from another country.


There's probably more...
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iverglas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-11 09:37 PM
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8. I was going
with the actual reasonable ones.

Well, mostly. I did allow that escape hatch for any of the unreasonable persuasion among us.
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AtheistCrusader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-11 09:47 PM
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10. Depends.
Edited on Sun Aug-28-11 09:48 PM by AtheistCrusader
If the weapon was select-fire, theft would be the most likely source, as you listed, but not far behind it would be unlawful import.

Self-manufacture would be the least, but there are indeed people in jail in this country for doing exactly that.


Edit: Ah yes, there are more: Unlawful retention from previous to NFA registration or prohibition.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-11 08:14 PM
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Tejas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-11 09:28 PM
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5. Apparently the laws aren't strict enough, let's pass some more!!1!
That'll fix the problem!
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Hoyt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-11 09:37 PM
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7. Maybe some day gunners will start acting reasonable/rationally with their guns desires.
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Tejas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-11 09:43 PM
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9. Like the deputy that shot his wife to death on our courthouse steps?
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AtheistCrusader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-11 09:50 PM
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11. My guns are inanimate, and have no desires.
As I do not live in the cartoon world of Roger Rabbit.
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Tuesday Afternoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-29-11 02:33 AM
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16. !
:rofl:

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ProgressiveProfessor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-11 11:01 PM
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12. Given the restricitions already in place, what other "reasonable" restrictions would you
want to see enacted?
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Hoyt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-29-11 12:09 AM
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13. I want to see gunners to stop pushing the envelope. If they don't, stricter laws only solution.
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AtheistCrusader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-29-11 12:19 AM
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14. What envelope?
A moment ago, you could only cite marketing terminology.

What envelope is being pushed?
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Tuesday Afternoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-29-11 02:34 AM
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17. Gangbangers already ignore the laws we have in place. What makes
you think they will obey new laws?

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iverglas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-29-11 02:39 AM
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18. what makes you think
you can just keep saying the same (quite idiotic) thing over and over when you know perfectly well it has been addressed and dismissed over and over and over and over?
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iverglas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-29-11 02:40 AM
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19. how about you tell us
Where did they get the guns?

Your answer will flow from the possibilities.
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ProgressiveProfessor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-29-11 01:53 PM
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20. Amusing post for someone who demands strict complinace with their posts
I asked Hoyt who posted " Maybe some day gunners will start acting reasonable/rationally with their guns desires" what he meant. He later posted "I want to see gunners to stop pushing the envelope. If they don't, stricter laws only solution." Still waiting to see what he thinks needs to change.

Not sure how "Where did they get the guns?" fits into the context.



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iverglas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-29-11 01:13 AM
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15. so this is how it went
I will omit elements.



RSillsbee
Sun Aug-28-11 09:22 PM
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5. W/ all due respect

... Perhaps we can deal w/ the root causes


iverglas Sun Aug-28-11 09:25 PM
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6. why deal with the root causes?

We are told over and over in this forum, by those who obviously know, that the people committing crimes like these are subhuman scum of no worth whose very existence robs good folk of oxygen and who are in danger of polluting the gene pool.

What "root cause" can there possibly be for their behaviour, other than the fact that they are subhuman scum of no worth whose very existence robs good folk of oxygen and who are in danger of polluting the gene pool?

They are best dealt with by killing them, is my very very clear understanding of the matter.

So presumably doing so on sight <as proposed in an earlier post> would indeed be the best course of action.

I see no flaw in that logic at all.



RSillsbee
Sun Aug-28-11 09:27 PM
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7. Feel free to quote any poster here who actually posted any of that

Caveat: The post hast to be from a pro-rights poster and it must be a serious post.

We'll wait and wait and wait and wait



iverglas
Sun Aug-28-11 10:16 PM
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8. I am very happy to oblige

In fact, I was hoping you would ask.

"oxygen thief"
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=118&topic_id=449214&mesg_id=450005

"taking out that one life may have served a valuable purpose in cleaning up the gene pool"
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=118&topic_id=449214&mesg_id=449930

"gun owners - the chlorine of life"
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=118&topic_id=449214&mesg_id=450107

"my property is worth more to me than the life of any thief"
(I'd say that = subhuman)
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=118&topic_id=449214&mesg_id=450106

(but clarified just in case)
"Apparently that makes them a subhuman lifeform that deserves to be used for target practice. --
You got that right."
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=118&topic_id=449214&mesg_id=450178

That's all from ONE THREAD and all in the last two weeks.

How we doing?

I hope that wasn't too long to wait.

If you want to wait until tomorrow, I can provide you with oodles more.

I know, the ones from the several who have become deceased since I decided to visit this summer won't count. No matter how many people voiced approval of their various posts.




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