House committee rejects move to allow concealed weapons in the District

[jpak]

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/dc-wire/post/house-committee-rejects-move-to-allow-concealed-weapons-in-the-district/2011/10/13/gIQA80C1hL_blog.html

The House Judiciary Committee easily beat back a move Thursday to allow people with concealed-weapon permits from other states to carry guns in the District.

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Not surprisingly, Judiciary Committee Democrats spoke out against Gohmert’s amendment, calling it an infringement on the city’s self-governance.

“We can’t use the District of Columbia as a laboratory,” said Rep. Sheila Jackson-Lee (D-Texas).

But the amendment also drew opposition from key Republicans who otherwise support gun rights, including Smith, who said he thought Gohmert’s amendment went “beyond the scope” of the underlying bill.

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:rofl:

[Kennah]

1. Yes, because there's never been a case of concealed carry working across state lines.

:sarcasm:

[ileus]

2. What could have been if only people weren't afraid of guns...

[jpak]

3. People have good reasons to be afraid of guns

they kill

yup

[ileus]

4. yes guns kill people...you are 100% correct.

[abogado]

6. I am absolutely terrified of cars and airplanes.

For the same reason.


:eyes:

[spin]

11. And I have a fear of doctors as they kill far more people every year than gun owners. (n/t)

Death by Medicine

By Gary Null, PhD; Carolyn Dean MD, ND; Martin Feldman, MD; Debora Rasio, MD; and Dorothy Smith, PhD

***snip***

Each year approximately 2.2 million US hospital patients experience adverse drug reactions (ADRs) to prescribed medications.(1) In 1995, Dr. Richard Besser of the federal Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) estimated the number of unnecessary antibiotics prescribed annually for viral infections to be 20 million; in 2003, Dr. Besser spoke in terms of tens of millions of unnecessary antibiotics prescribed annually.(2, 2a) Approximately 7.5 million unnecessary medical and surgical procedures are performed annually in the US,(3) while approximately 8.9 million Americans are hospitalized unnecessarily.(4)

As shown in the following table, the estimated total number of iatrogenic deaths—that is, deaths induced inadvertently by a physician or surgeon or by medical treatment or diagnostic procedures— in the US annually is 783,936. It is evident that the American medical system is itself the leading cause of death and injury in the US . By comparison, approximately 699,697 Americans died of heart in 2001, while 553,251 died of cancer.(5)...emphasis added

***snip***

Underreporting of Iatrogenic Events

As few as 5% and no more than 20% of iatrogenic acts are ever reported.(16,24,25,33,34) This implies that if medical errors were completely and accurately reported, we would have an annual iatrogenic death toll much higher than 783,936. In 1994, Leape said his figure of 180,000 medical mistakes resulting in death annually was equivalent to three jumbo-jet crashes every two days.(16) Our considerably higher figure is equivalent to six jumbo jets are falling out of the sky each day.
http://www.lef.org/magazine/mag2004/mar2004_awsi_death_02.htm

[Spoonman]

31. Stupidity causes more fatalities each year than anything else

we should regulate and ban it.

Please feel free to take the lead on this issue for us!

[PavePusher]

5. "“We can’t use the District of Columbia as a laboratory,” said Rep. Sheila Jackson-Lee (D-Texas)."

What a stupid woman.

D.C. has been a laboratory for gun control for decades.... a failed experiment. When are they going to fire her?

[abogado]

7. Thank you for saying what I wanted to but didn't, lacking the proper seniority and gravitas

hereabouts.

;-)

[PavePusher]

8. Truth should be immune to "seniority". Speak loud and proud... but endevour, above all...

to be correct and factual.

[oneshooter]

9. She has been an embarresment to Texas and Democrats for years. n/t

[Hoopla Phil]

10. No kidding. She's the one that asked if the Mars Pathfinder

could take an image of the flag planted there in 1969 by Neil Armstrong.

[spin]

12. I guess that shows you the value of an education from Yale ...

Sheila Jackson Lee

***snip***

Jackson Lee graduated from Jamaica High School in Queens. She earned a B.A. in political science from Yale University in 1972, followed by a J.D. from the University of Virginia School of Law in 1975.<1> She is a member of Alpha Kappa Alpha sorority.<2>

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Views on Vietnam

In 2010, Jackson Lee stated that, "...victory had been achieved" by the United States in Vietnam. She went on to state, "Today, we have two Vietnams; side-by-side, North and South, exchanging and working. We may not agree with all that North Vietnam is doing, but they are living in peace. I would look for a better human rights record for North Vietnam, but they are living side by side. Because that was a civil war, and because the leadership of this nation did not listen to the mothers and fathers who beared...bore the burden of 58,000 dead and did not declare victory; the mounting deaths; the violence continued going up and up, rather than understanding the political nature of the war in Vietnam, we did not listen to those families."<13> In fact, the territories of North and South Vietnam were united under communist rule after the withdrawal of the United States in the 1970s.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sheila_Jackson_Lee

Perhaps that explains much about G. W. Bush who is another Yale graduate. Of course, Bush also attended Harvard Business School, which when you consider how Bush managed to run the economy into the ground under his watch is not a glowing recommendation for spending your money on a education at Harvard either.

George W. Bush

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Bush finished high school at Phillips Academy, a boarding school (then all-male) in Andover, Massachusetts, where he played baseball and during his senior year was the head cheerleader.<20><21> Bush attended Yale University from 1964 to 1968, graduating with an A.B. in history.<22> During this time, he was a member of Delta Kappa Epsilon, being elected the fraternity's president during his senior year.<23><24> Bush also became a member of the Skull and Bones society as a senior.<25> Bush was a keen rugby union player, and was on Yale's 1st XV.<26> He characterized himself as an average student.<27>

Beginning in the fall of 1973, Bush attended the Harvard Business School, where he earned a Master of Business Administration. He is the only U.S. President to have earned an M.B.A
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_W._Bush

[gejohnston]

17. I'll be sure to bookmark this one

for the next time someone touts the superiority of Ivy League schools and those who work there over lowly land grant schools like say, Florida State.

[SteveM]

23. "lowly land grant schools" include U. of Florida and Florida A & M...

not F.S.U.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_land-grant_universities#Florida

;-)

SteveM, class '70 U.F.

[gejohnston]

24. One of my Daughter's friends

is looking at going there, did the parent tour.
Go Gators

[Hoyt]

19. Interesting. She won the last election with 70% of vote and seems quite liberal in a red state.

I guess her position on guns takes precedent over everything else she believes and the Republican with 27% of vote would have been a better choice.

She sounds like a good congress woman to me -- but then I support strong gun laws that keep them off the street and from becoming an accepted fashion accessory as some here would have it.

[DissedByBush]

20. Gerrymandered district

The Democratic candidate can never lose there.

That such an idiot and all-around horrible person keeps getting reelected shows it.

[Hoyt]

21. God, it's awful when a Dem gets elected in a state where Republicans want to rule.

It's not like right wingers don't gerrymander districts.

But then, I support Democrats and not Republicons.

[gejohnston]

25. True

In principal, I am not big on party bosses having a hand in such things. Tight races weeds out the crazy people in the primaries. In gerrymandered districts, the crazy people win the primary then the general.

[We_Have_A_Problem]

28. You REALLY need to take a look at how her district is drawn up...

Gerrymandered doesnt even begin to describe it. There are some sections of it which include only one side of a street...

[S_B_Jackson]

48. Jackson-Lee's district is a deliberately created the TX 18th as a minority-majority district

specifically to - as much as possible - guarantee that an African American can be elected, in a similar manner the TX 29th was also created as a Hispanic district - Gene Green isn't hispanic, but his wife is.

Under the voting rights act, it is illegal to intentially dilute the demographics of this district below a majority-minority level. What the rethuglicans have done, therefore is to pack every African American district that they can into Jackson-Lee's district, meaning that all of the surrounding districts such as the 22nd District (which used to be represented by Tom DeLay) is less diverse, more lily-white...

Jackson-Lee is a bad caricature of a reasonable representative, a poor inheritor of the seat so ably represented by Barbara Jordan and Mickey Leeland.

[rl6214]

14. We've been saying that here in Texas for years.

Don't know how she keeps getting re-elected.

[Hoyt]

26. If that's the kind of support a Dem gets from supposed liberals, it is a wonder.

[Spoonman]

29. Dem does not equal liberal

and liberal does not equal Dem.

She is a complete fucking idiot, and I type this sitting squarely in the middle of her district behind a razor wire topped fence!

So long as we have "Democrats" (AKA - fucking idiots) like her in this state, it will stay RED FOREVER!

She gets damn near daily local coverage of her stupidity, because she does or says something blatantly stupid every day!

[Hoyt]

32. Maybe so. But in this case she is right and I appreciate her standing up against the "gun culture."

[Spoonman]

33. Well thank heavens

she's concerned about crime and guns in DC.
I live near her district, and believe me, DO NOT be in her district after dark!

If you want to know the areas of Houston to avoid, just take a look at the 18th congressional district map.

"standing up against the gun culture" - LMAO

You mean "standing up against the Bill of Rights"!

[Hoyt]

34. Naw, because you ain't in a militia. But, lots of folks in "gun culture" get that one wrong.

So, she represents poor neighborhoods. Though job representing poor people. All Republicans hate them, and apparently some Democrats too.

[gejohnston]

35. Actually,

you are right. However, her district does deserve better. I hate to imagine what the Rep. would be like.

[We_Have_A_Problem]

37. She's a fucking idiot Hoyt....

Really. There's nothing nice that can be said about that stupid bag of crap. She is an embarrassment to the human race and a prime example of what happens when technology renders natural selection obsolete.

100 years ago she'd have been eaten by something before she reached puberty. Nothing that stupid should survive to adulthood and breed.

[PavePusher]

38. +1

:rofl: :hide: :popcorn:

[Hoyt]

39. Rush Limbaugh couldn't have been more caustic. You guys should be ashamed.

[We_Have_A_Problem]

40. Why in the fuck should I be ashamed?

I am embarrassed such a fucking retard represents my state.

[Hoyt]

41. Like all those other Congress folks from your state are so outstanding. And, you should be ashamed.

This lady got 70% of the vote. So, I guess you have a problem with her constituents too. Try looking beyond the end of the barrel.

To be clear, my state is no better. But, I'd love to see some Dems who speak their mind and represent poor folks.

[We_Have_A_Problem]

42. Again, WHY?

Seriously - why on earth should I be ashamed because I speak my mind about one of my representatives who seems to go out of her way to demonstrate just how stupid a human being can be and still manage to function?

I don't give two shits if she got 100% of the vote. That doesn't change the fact that she's an idiot.

[Hoyt]

43. Enjoy your guns.

[We_Have_A_Problem]

45. I do. You feel free to enjoy whatever it is you enjoy... n/t

[Marengo]

49. LOL! The most stinging rebuke...EVER! N/T

[PavePusher]

44. You seem to imply that Democrat voters and candidates and elected officials....

can't be just as dumb, or dumber, as their political opponents.

Whatever put that silly idea in your head?

[rl6214]

47. My Rep is Silvestre Reyes and yes, he is that outstanding.

[rl6214]

46. Not all Dems are worth supporting

[DissedByBush]

16. They can't fire her

She's the only one who knows where the flag Neil Armstrong planted is.

And if it weren't for her we'd look stupid trying to deal with one Vietnam instead of real two, side by side, North and South.

Seriously, this embarrassment has to end.

[PavePusher]

18. Well, we can be proud of one thing...

Repubs don't have a lock on stupid.

Sigh....

:rofl:

[SteveM]

22. Yeah, she just wants to keep bottling the same old stuff. nt

[We_Have_A_Problem]

27. Calling that woman "stupid"...

...is an insult to the stupid.

[PavePusher]

30. Well, yeah.....

but this is a family site...

:rofl:

[We_Have_A_Problem]

36. The words I would use to describe her...

...would be considered offensive on goatse....









Accurate....but offensive nonetheless.

[rl6214]

13. Sheila Jackson-lee, seriously?

She's a laughing stock herein Texeas. I don't know how she keeps getting elected.

Baby steps, It's gonna take a few tries to get it through.

[krispos42]

15. “We can’t use the District of Columbia as a laboratory”

:wtf: :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: :wtf:






As what? NOT allowing concealed carry?


This Congresscritter isn't too bright on this issue, now is she?