MTP: Mcauliffe confident and positive, Gillespie making excuses

[librechik]

Russert nailing Gillespie about Ohio, Gillespies starts sweating, then goes into talking pointd. Russert confronts him about the POLLWATCHERS in Ohio who will try to harass voters. Gillespie doesn't deny it, brushes ist off, then changes the subject to supposed Democrat based voter fraud (LIAR)

[librechik]

1. Ha ha , Russert won't let go of the OH Pollwatcher issue

Once again Gillespie diverts to more "Democratic voter fraud"

McAuliffe is very clear about this issue. Dems want to make sure everybody's vote counts.

Republicans have a 20 year history of voter fraud. Mentions the Sproul incidents across the country (tearing up dem registrations, under police investigation)

McAuliffe reiterates WE JUST WANT PEOPLE TO VOTE

[Atman]

2. Gillespie also all but admitted...

...that Bush did, indeed, make the comments about privatizing Social Security at the RNC luncheon. He was asked point-blank, three times, whether or not the transcripts of the meeting should be released so we could see what the resident DID say...he wouldn't. He couldn't. He had lots and lots of words which danced around it, even saying "I think I was there..." but he stopped short of saying the resident didn't say it, or that the transcripts would reveal otherwise.

BAMM. Case closed. Bush is going to privatize Social Security...you heard it straight from the head of the RNC.

[smirkymonkey]

3. Is Gillespie the guy with the chimpmunk cheeks?

I happened to turn on the TV, which I have sworn off except for special occasions, and saw this DORK spewing nothing but lies and party propaganda - god I wanted to smack him!

[librechik]

8. yeah, the Barney Fife of politics

now the privatization issue--Iguess you all saw this show earlier.

I'm in Colorado


Kitty Kelley journalism! Two at a blow! (except Ron Suskind,"Bush antagonist" won the Pulitzer, and Kelley is actually a pretty good journalist, just with a bad reputation)

[Carolina]

4. Gillespie

looked and sounded like the lying little rat that he is. I had to hit the mute button on him a few times. Voter suppression bullies are the hallmark of the repukes yet rat boy tried to spin the opposite picture. Gosh, I loathe these bastards.

Terry, on the other hand, was so cool and sure, without being arrogant. Way to go, T Mc.

[Lefty48197]

5. What in the heck is Russert doing questioning Gillespie?

I thought Tim's show was meant to be a forum for the parties to recite their platforms? I didn't know that he was allowed to ask questions.

[librechik]

6. odd, I've only seen this in Russert when he's confronting

evil liberals!

[tinrobot]

9. He's sucking up to the new president.

Heh... heh....

[ksoze]

7. Repubs sweating on ALL shows this am - Demos on message!

[AmerDem]

10. Shrumm is a very effective spokesperson

I know he takes alot of heat for mess ups behind the scenes and rightfully so but as far as a tv spokeperson getting the message out for Kerry there haven't been many that were better this past year...IMO!

[Nicholas_J]

11. The real problem with the polls this year

Is that a sigificant number of them are oversampling republicans bug time.

Gallop, SUSA, Rasmussen,Mason DIxon and need i mentions Faux and a few others all get thrown into the state averages and end up giving a significant number of states to Bush because they give BUsh 5 or six point leads when alll of the other polls show Kerry leading by a few points in those states. WHen you average these skrewed polls into a "Poll of Polls" they start showing Bush leading in states where he would not have leads without the skewed polls.

If you look at Iowa you have Bush in the lead if Poll averages.

But the polls that have him leading are Survety U.S.A. and Mason Dixon.

A pollster in Iowa nemed Central Surveys has Kerry leading. CEntral Surveys polls gives a far more balanced percentage of Democrats, Republicans, and Independents in its poll.

SAme thing for Minnesota. THeyare giving the state to BUsh becase Mason Dixon,polled high for BUsh, the three priop polls polled for Kerry.

COnservative Organizations seem to be attemoting to effect voter turnout in critical states by showing Bush ahead in states wher he simply does not lead. Recent articles showing a very high democratic turnout in early voting states is worrying REpublicans who are still trying to modeify voter action by modifying polls.

WIsonsin is the most inteesting. All polls show Kerry head byt the state is now considered one where Bush is ahead because of a Gallop poll that puts Bush 6 point ahead of Kerry, where two other polls call it a tie, and two others have Kerry ajhead by ONE point Aveage that 6 points in with the other five, and it gives BUsh an artificial lead.

In the end, if voters on election day pay no mind ot the polls, and just get out and vote, perhaps future polls will be left alone as tools of prediction rather than be used as methods of effecting outcome.

But witohuty the use of these outlier polls,. Kerry would lead in every swing state.

[senseandsensibility]

12. I like your analysis!

I think the corporate media is desperately trying to diminish turnout by sponsoring rigged polls. If this weren't the twilight zone, it would be a major scandal! Is anyone trying to expose this locally?:(

[Nicholas_J]

13. Zogby pointed it out with Gallop

Media matters pointed out that CNN was selecting polls that all favored Bush, so they started incliuding other polls like Ipsos Cook which showed Kerry in the lead, BUT they still did not remove those polls that oversampled Republicans and so still get the results they wanted.

No one is taking the very hard line of attakcing polls for oversampling at all.

Fortunately, this does not seem to be effecting democratic voters who appear to be coming out in record numbers in swing states. In two of the most heavily Republican counties in my state of Florida, Early voting shows 20 percent more democrats coming out and voting than in previous years, and in fact, the Division of elections has not been able to produce an updated voters registration list by country. But it appears that in FLorida, newly registered voters are coming out in force. Republican reaction to this with claims of double voting in Florida, and in Ohio, threats to contest EVERY DEMOCRATIC VOTER coming into every polling place is an indication of their great fear of the far greater registration of democrats in that state, They are going to try to disenfranchise voters again by claiming that the forms were improperly filled out, that non-registered groups were helping people fill out voters registration forms, and so on but I beleive that after the election of 2000, the Supreme Court will not dare to disenfranchise voters who fill out forms no matter where they were filled out. As long as those forms had critical information and were not bogus, like the "Fred Flintstone" fiasco with Nader. The courts willl likely fall on the side of allowing legitimate voters to vote rather than on the completeness of the VR forms.

[Nicholas_J]

14. Yes, already Republicans have stated that in Ohio

They intend to question the validity of the registrationsof every voter who comes in to vote, because of the massive numbers of new voters who democrats have registered this campaign season. They have already tried to disqualify people who filled out forms based on the thickness of paper these forms were printed on.

The fact are that the only way Republicans can ever win is to either get Democrats to not vote through either direct intimidation which has not worked this time, or simply by disqualifying qualified voters. The fact are that in many early voting precincts, the numbers of voters are reaching all time highs and some calculations are indicating that the percentage of voters in this election may be as much as 78 percent higher than in 2002, This not only bodes well for Kerry, but may cause some unantipated upsets in Congressional races this year, as a large turnout favors all Democratic candidates. Democrats could end up taking back the Senate if newly registered democrats come out voting in great numbers, Expect REpublicans to try to disenfranchise as many newly registered voters as possible.

Democrats have another thing going for them. That is time. This years polls are likely to be very inaccurate for a number of reasons. Oversampling of Republicans, non inclision of newly registered people in polling results, has resulted in very largely skewed averages of polls, and this results in very skewed predictions as to electoral votes. If you exclude the polls exagerating Republican voters the electoral college largely goes to Kerry. If Kerry does in fact win the electoral college as is suggested when only looking at balanced polls, and their is a recount necessary, we must remember that the same time constraints for the final counts will apply as did in 2000. If all the states in which votes are contested goes on for as long as it did in Florida, the Republicans contesting democratic votes in a number of current swing states will run into the same deadlines as the Democratic contest of the Florida vote will be reached. With the likelihood of contest in multiple states occuring in this election, time is on the democratic side. Time to contest, and then appeal and so on, As long as the number of states where decisions are up in the air by the first week of December occurs, a Kerry electoral win will mean that Kerry will win the election regardless of contesting the vote, as the Supreme Court set a precedent in 2000 that fixes the date for all arguments and contests to be finished,

I have been stating that Kerry was running an electoral vote strategy for his campaign from the very get go this season. The electoral vote situation looks far closer and favorable to Kerry than the popular vote strategy could bring him.