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TeamJordan23 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-26-07 01:40 PM Original message |
New Zogby Poll: Hillary loses to ALL top Republicans; Obama and Edwards beat all |
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Gman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-26-07 01:41 PM Response to Original message |
1. It's an online Zogby poll |
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Quixote1818 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-26-07 01:47 PM Response to Reply #1 |
15. His on line polls have been just as accurate as his other polls |
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flpoljunkie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-26-07 07:14 PM Response to Reply #15 |
87. Here's the Zogby link. Obama does best in the matchups. Hillary does not break 40% in any matchup. |
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CranialRectaLoopbak (61 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 12:09 AM Response to Reply #15 |
115. Elect-ability |
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Raster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 07:59 AM Response to Reply #115 |
151. First of all, Rectal, Kerry WAS electable. And if not for electoral fraud, Kerry would be sitting |
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dugggy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 12:32 AM Response to Reply #15 |
120. It can't be accurate.....I have proof |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-26-07 02:16 PM Response to Reply #1 |
38. I believe it is the same one I was emailed |
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Gman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-26-07 02:44 PM Response to Reply #38 |
51. Read my response to you in the other thread on this. |
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MethuenProgressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-26-07 06:32 PM Response to Reply #1 |
81. The personal negative attacks from Edwards, the GOP, Obama, et al are working. |
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Gman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-26-07 09:02 PM Response to Reply #81 |
100. The personal attacks probably are working |
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JDPriestly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 05:53 PM Response to Reply #1 |
200. Rasmussen, Zogby agree on this. |
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snappyturtle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-26-07 01:42 PM Response to Original message |
2. Better to learn of this now rather than later, as sad as it is. nt |
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EV_Ares (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-26-07 01:43 PM Response to Reply #2 |
4. Exactly, she is definitly not going in the right direction. Not the one to |
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bjobotts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 01:36 AM Response to Reply #2 |
130. CAN YOU LEARN OR JUST SWALLOW MEDIA HYPE? READ THIS |
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robbedvoter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-26-07 01:43 PM Response to Original message |
3. Yup. Zogby was manipulating primary polls in 2004 as well...hated Clark, wanted Dean |
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Recursion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-26-07 05:13 PM Response to Reply #3 |
70. Keep thinking that |
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bjobotts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 01:28 AM Response to Reply #70 |
126. Bullshit. Just read this and you will see why the poll is bullshit. |
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DS1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-26-07 01:43 PM Response to Original message |
5. There's a shock |
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obnoxiousdrunk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-26-07 01:43 PM Response to Original message |
6. That's if and only |
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surfermaw (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 10:22 AM Response to Reply #6 |
166. Edwards is going to be the Iowa winner |
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Clark2008 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 11:48 AM Response to Reply #166 |
178. ...until people learn his record... |
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mrbluto (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 01:39 PM Response to Reply #178 |
188. Nice republican tactic you got going there. |
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ilovesunshine (289 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-26-07 01:43 PM Response to Original message |
7. An online poll... |
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Imagevision (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-26-07 01:43 PM Response to Original message |
8. I believe Hillary will bring more baggage in election then Obama |
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TeamJordan23 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-26-07 01:44 PM Response to Reply #8 |
10. Everyone knows that. She is the most vulnerable in the GE. nm |
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EV_Ares (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-26-07 01:45 PM Response to Reply #8 |
11. Pretty much correct on that which is what is part of her problem and where |
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EV_Ares (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-26-07 01:45 PM Response to Reply #8 |
12. Will be interesting to see what she tries to do to change things. |
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Renew Deal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-26-07 02:08 PM Response to Reply #8 |
32. That's obvious. |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-26-07 02:48 PM Response to Reply #32 |
56. I don't think she can. |
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Renew Deal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-26-07 02:50 PM Response to Reply #56 |
58. I don't either. |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-26-07 01:43 PM Response to Original message |
9. online poll. |
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Colobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-26-07 09:06 PM Response to Reply #9 |
101. I'm part of the Zogby online panel |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-26-07 09:22 PM Response to Reply #101 |
106. which is exactly why it isn't credible. |
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D23MIURG23 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-26-07 11:04 PM Response to Reply #106 |
111. You can still randomize samples by narrowing the pool. |
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CreekDog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 12:27 AM Response to Reply #111 |
118. you can't randomize a non-random universe |
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flyarm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 07:51 AM Response to Reply #118 |
149. and who is polling the youth vote with phone polling?? i know my son does not have a land line |
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D23MIURG23 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 08:55 AM Response to Reply #118 |
157. And? |
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CreekDog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 09:08 AM Response to Reply #157 |
159. The Bush approval rating by Zogby is a telephone poll! |
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D23MIURG23 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 09:27 AM Response to Reply #159 |
161. He is using two different methodologies simultaneously? |
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CreekDog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 09:40 AM Response to Reply #161 |
162. yep, Zogby uses telephone for some surveys and "interactive" for online surveys |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 05:36 AM Response to Reply #111 |
141. because people sign up to be polled. They don't sign up to be called |
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D23MIURG23 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 08:56 AM Response to Reply #141 |
158. see above |
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dmallind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 08:33 AM Response to Reply #111 |
154. Well for one thing it means you have to be online. |
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Hawkowl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 01:27 AM Response to Reply #106 |
125. Size negates need for randomness |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 05:39 AM Response to Reply #125 |
142. sorry, no. The people e-mailed have signed up to take polls. So it isn't random |
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Stop Cornyn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 10:15 AM Response to Reply #142 |
165. None of the polls are random. Phone polls have to correct their sampling errors, too, because men |
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krispos42 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 01:14 PM Response to Reply #165 |
186. Exactly. They have to adjust the raw, non-representative data |
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Stop Cornyn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 04:11 PM Response to Reply #186 |
191. Do those people believe that Gallup just opens the phone book and dials 600 numbers at random? |
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krispos42 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-28-07 03:31 AM Response to Reply #191 |
202. They might... as long as they get demographic information from those 600 |
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Stop Cornyn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-28-07 12:06 PM Response to Reply #202 |
205. To get a representative sample of 600, you either need to target call based on a prescreen of the |
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OnTheOtherHand (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 11:13 AM Response to Reply #125 |
171. a common misconception -- you just get more precisely wrong results |
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Cleita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 12:43 PM Response to Reply #106 |
183. So why is this any different than being selected to be contacted |
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CreekDog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 12:24 AM Response to Reply #101 |
117. then it's not random...random sampling is accepted methodology |
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Tarc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-26-07 01:45 PM Response to Original message |
13. Fraudulent poll, please do not recommend this garbage |
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Quixote1818 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-26-07 01:49 PM Response to Reply #13 |
19. The track record of his on line polls is just as good or better than his regular polling |
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Tarc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-26-07 02:01 PM Response to Reply #19 |
26. So, you make up your mind, then look for polls to support it |
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Quixote1818 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-26-07 02:10 PM Response to Reply #26 |
35. Are you sure you are not on Cheney's staff? |
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alittlelark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-26-07 02:18 PM Response to Reply #26 |
40. In over 4 years you post less than 400 times.... |
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Tarc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-26-07 07:58 PM Response to Reply #40 |
96. Eh? |
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alittlelark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-26-07 08:40 PM Response to Reply #96 |
99. Ya know what.... I've heard alot, a WHOLE lot that were 'dumber' |
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Tarc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-28-07 09:09 AM Response to Reply #99 |
203. Stop lying, please |
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nankerphelge (995 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-26-07 10:46 PM Response to Reply #96 |
110. Exactly... |
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OnTheOtherHand (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 11:22 AM Response to Reply #110 |
174. (smile) n/t |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-26-07 02:19 PM Response to Reply #13 |
41. I was polled |
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Gman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-26-07 02:40 PM Response to Reply #41 |
49. However |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-26-07 03:46 PM Response to Reply #49 |
63. But Zogby chose me |
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Gman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-26-07 06:10 PM Response to Reply #63 |
75. True, they chose you but... |
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NorthCarolina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-26-07 07:55 PM Response to Reply #63 |
93. I am also Registered with Zogby |
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Colobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-26-07 09:09 PM Response to Reply #93 |
103. I was! |
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CreekDog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 12:31 AM Response to Reply #63 |
119. What was Zogby's track record with interactive polling vs. the other big pollsters w/ random samples |
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Orangepeel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-26-07 02:59 PM Response to Reply #13 |
61. The fact that people complete it online isn't a problem |
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dmallind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 08:38 AM Response to Reply #61 |
155. Yes it less representative |
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Recursion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-26-07 05:15 PM Response to Reply #13 |
71. Ummm... no |
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Tarc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-26-07 07:56 PM Response to Reply #71 |
94. Ummm... yes |
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Recursion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-26-07 08:06 PM Response to Reply #94 |
98. On what grounds? |
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CreekDog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 12:33 AM Response to Reply #98 |
121. so you prefer to discount random samples of people who register online for a polland have a computer |
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Recursion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 02:53 AM Response to Reply #121 |
137. Maybe it's selfish; I have a computer and not a phone n/t |
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CreekDog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 09:10 AM Response to Reply #137 |
160. we aren't talking about your lifestyle silly rabbit... |
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Recursion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 01:46 PM Response to Reply #160 |
190. And I'm pointing out no poll is "random" |
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Viva_La_Revolution (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-26-07 06:14 PM Response to Reply #13 |
77. Then all polls are invalid, as all participants in every poll choose to participate. |
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OnTheOtherHand (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 11:18 AM Response to Reply #77 |
173. true in a way, but still there's a difference |
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bjobotts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 01:38 AM Response to Reply #13 |
131. AGREED AND HERE'S THE PROOF. READ THIS |
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havocmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-26-07 01:46 PM Response to Original message |
14. This ought to be fun... |
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Nimrod2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-26-07 01:47 PM Response to Original message |
16. OMG!!! and I trust this guy...............? |
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progressoid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-26-07 01:48 PM Response to Original message |
17. I've lost respect for Zogby from these online polls |
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peace frog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 06:28 AM Response to Reply #17 |
144. Ditto |
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SaveElmer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-26-07 01:48 PM Response to Original message |
18. On line poll...uh, ok... |
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TeamJordan23 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-26-07 01:57 PM Response to Reply #18 |
24. But does Gallup poll reach everyone? |
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SaveElmer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-26-07 02:03 PM Response to Reply #24 |
28. Online polls are self selecting... |
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Quixote1818 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-26-07 02:06 PM Response to Reply #24 |
31. And these days most people who are well off or middle class don't answer the phone if |
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CreekDog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 12:35 AM Response to Reply #24 |
122. what the hell are you arguing then? |
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provis99 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 12:53 AM Response to Reply #24 |
124. Gallup oversamples conservatives |
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Recursion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-26-07 05:17 PM Response to Reply #18 |
72. This isn't that kind of "online poll" |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-26-07 01:51 PM Response to Original message |
20. the participants of on line polls are self-selecting |
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Gman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-26-07 02:30 PM Response to Reply #20 |
44. Exactly. The first question in Zogby's online polls is |
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Acadia Blue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-26-07 01:51 PM Response to Original message |
21. Why does she not realize why the rePIGs want her to run????? |
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ilovesunshine (289 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-26-07 01:53 PM Response to Reply #21 |
22. Quite a few ex "rePIGs" as you call them, will be voting for Hillary... |
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Divine Discontent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 04:44 PM Response to Reply #22 |
193. I saw a lady online today elsewhere who said she wanted to meet |
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weeve (427 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-26-07 01:55 PM Response to Original message |
23. Your head's in the sand ... |
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Quixote1818 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-26-07 02:00 PM Response to Original message |
25. Even if this poll is slightly off this is what caught my eye |
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TeamJordan23 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-26-07 02:02 PM Response to Reply #25 |
27. I agree. Assuming the poll favors Repubs, that means Obama & Edwards are running stronger. nm |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-26-07 02:04 PM Response to Original message |
29. OLD Zogby Poll--MUST READ!!! |
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Yukari Yakumo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 01:40 AM Response to Reply #29 |
132. I think we should do away with recommends altogether and just let the mods promote certain topics nt |
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Renew Deal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-26-07 02:06 PM Response to Original message |
30. I voted in this poll. |
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Gman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-26-07 02:38 PM Response to Reply #30 |
48. Those questions at the end are all standard |
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Renew Deal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-26-07 02:44 PM Response to Reply #48 |
52. Right |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-26-07 07:03 PM Response to Reply #30 |
85. Yep that's the same poll I did |
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BRLIB (347 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 07:52 AM Response to Reply #30 |
150. Only "mainstream" candidates? Zogby a predjudiced a-whole! |
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davidwparker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-26-07 02:09 PM Response to Original message |
33. Clearly. |
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Imagevision (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-26-07 02:09 PM Response to Original message |
34. Last week when they polled Iowan's Hillary came in third |
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DemocratSinceBirth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-26-07 02:17 PM Response to Reply #34 |
39. But First In OH, KY, and NM |
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DemocratSinceBirth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-26-07 02:13 PM Response to Original message |
36. How Reliable Is the Zogby-Journal Poll? |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-26-07 02:15 PM Response to Original message |
37. I just took that poll |
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Stop Cornyn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-26-07 02:23 PM Response to Original message |
42. As a larger and larger segment of the population gives up land-line phone service, on-line polls are |
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maddiejoan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-26-07 02:23 PM Response to Original message |
43. Gallup has her beating all Republicans |
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Capn Sunshine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-26-07 02:32 PM Response to Original message |
45. Remember , if it's bad news for Hillary, it's fraudulent |
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mtnsnake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-26-07 02:34 PM Response to Reply #45 |
46. Finally you got something right |
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BringBigDogBack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-26-07 02:36 PM Response to Original message |
47. Everyone's been waiting and wondering about the turning point.... |
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Perry Logan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-26-07 02:42 PM Response to Original message |
50. New Zogby poll: DUers will believe anything. |
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mtnsnake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-26-07 02:45 PM Response to Reply #50 |
53. or they'll jump for joy at anything negative about Hillary even if they know it's not true |
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Renew Deal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-26-07 02:45 PM Response to Reply #50 |
54. lol |
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saracat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-26-07 02:59 PM Response to Reply #50 |
62. Yeah but the Hillary people were touting the Zoby when it said she was ahead.So Zogby is accurate |
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TeamJordan23 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-26-07 06:07 PM Response to Reply #62 |
74. totally agree. Hillbots only like polls favorable to them. nm |
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Tarc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-26-07 08:00 PM Response to Reply #62 |
97. A swing and a miss |
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D23MIURG23 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-26-07 11:11 PM Response to Reply #97 |
112. Care to point to any specifics? |
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Sparkly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 11:15 AM Response to Reply #112 |
172. I think Zogby does do some scientific polling the ways others do |
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Yukari Yakumo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 01:42 AM Response to Reply #50 |
135. Correction: DUers will believe anything if it bashes HRC. {nt} |
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elana i am (626 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-26-07 02:47 PM Response to Original message |
55. i make no assumptions about |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-26-07 02:50 PM Response to Original message |
57. To be fair, other polls don't show this to be the case: |
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suston96 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-26-07 02:56 PM Response to Original message |
59. After the holiday polls just starting.... |
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saracat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-26-07 02:57 PM Response to Original message |
60. This has always been the case.Only the blind refuse to acknowledge this fact and attack those |
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DrFunkenstein (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-26-07 03:51 PM Response to Original message |
64. The "Aura of Inevitablility" Is Wearing Pretty Thin |
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elizm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-26-07 04:26 PM Response to Original message |
65. The tide is turning...big time. nt |
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ginchinchili (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-26-07 04:38 PM Response to Original message |
66. Whether this poll is accurate or not, the truth remains that the risk does exist. |
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dtotire (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-26-07 04:44 PM Response to Original message |
67. A Link To The Poll |
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freefall (617 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 07:30 AM Response to Reply #67 |
148. Or perhaps they are just getting to know her! |
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The Traveler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-26-07 04:49 PM Response to Original message |
68. To quote the good Doctor |
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Stop Cornyn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-26-07 04:51 PM Response to Original message |
69. So Hillary tanks in the polls and Hillbots rush to point out that Edwards lives in a larger house!!! |
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Auntie Bush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-26-07 05:39 PM Response to Original message |
73. Zogby is a bushbot...can't believe him! |
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Stop Cornyn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-26-07 06:26 PM Response to Reply #73 |
79. Zogby a bushbot? Hardly. Zogby charted Bush's lowest approval rating ever and low ratings generally |
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sniffa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-26-07 06:38 PM Response to Reply #73 |
82. if he's a bushbot, then he should be showing Hillary |
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depakid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-26-07 06:12 PM Response to Original message |
76. Hillary = Mondale |
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Stop Cornyn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-26-07 06:19 PM Response to Reply #76 |
78. Actually, Hillary = Muskie |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-26-07 06:41 PM Response to Reply #76 |
83. Obama = McGovern |
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Stop Cornyn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-26-07 06:47 PM Response to Reply #83 |
84. Except that Obama isn't a "left-wing dark horse candidate," and -- besides -- McGovern lost. |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-26-07 09:08 PM Response to Reply #84 |
102. neither was McGovern... |
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depakid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-26-07 07:07 PM Response to Reply #83 |
86. That may well be |
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Stop Cornyn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-26-07 07:15 PM Response to Reply #86 |
89. Edwards, Obama -- as long as we don't nominate a coporate lap dog I'll be happy. |
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Tejanocrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 05:28 PM Response to Reply #76 |
196. Hillary = Nelson Rockefeller (but not quite as close to being a Democrat) |
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Life Long Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-26-07 06:28 PM Response to Original message |
80. Hillary has so much baggage. |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-26-07 07:14 PM Response to Original message |
88. The November head-to-head SurveyUSA matchups had Obama leading Clinton by a wide margin. |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-26-07 09:30 PM Response to Reply #88 |
108. you're referring to those surveyed in Iowa. The OP is discussiing a national poll. Not the same. |
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illinoisprogressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-26-07 07:18 PM Response to Original message |
90. Looks more and more like the electability issue regarding Hillary is true |
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Guaranteed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-26-07 07:31 PM Response to Original message |
91. That's a problem. nt |
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NorthCarolina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-26-07 07:50 PM Response to Original message |
92. WOW, There's a Surprise |
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calteacherguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-26-07 07:56 PM Response to Original message |
95. Proud to do my part to help Democrats win in 08' by giving this the 34th rec. nt |
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Colobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-26-07 09:10 PM Response to Reply #95 |
104. Amen! |
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bjobotts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 01:32 AM Response to Reply #95 |
128. HEY GOOBER, IF THAT'S TRUE THEN READ THIS AND LEARN |
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rolleitreks (282 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-26-07 09:18 PM Response to Original message |
105. The important thing is to destroy Hillary's candidacy. She is unfit for the office. n/t |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-26-07 09:23 PM Response to Reply #105 |
107. at all costs, huh? |
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usregimechange (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-26-07 10:18 PM Response to Original message |
109. Which is part of the reason why I don't support Hillary. |
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brit54 (14 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-26-07 11:29 PM Response to Original message |
113. When will Dems learn? |
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balantz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 12:04 AM Response to Reply #113 |
114. This point needs to be hammered again and again: |
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bjobotts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 01:35 AM Response to Reply #113 |
129. DEMS LIKE YOU APPARENTLY DON'T LEARN. READ THIS: |
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nxylas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 10:38 AM Response to Reply #129 |
169. Enough already! |
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snot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 12:14 AM Response to Original message |
116. Been thru Ups & Downs Re- H.C., |
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IndianaGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 12:41 AM Response to Original message |
123. That vast expanse of land between the coasts does not suffer from Clinton nostalgia |
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BenDavid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 01:31 AM Response to Original message |
127. This is a bogus poll. WHY? I contacted |
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Hawkowl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 01:41 AM Response to Reply #127 |
133. Biased logic |
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AtomicKitten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 01:42 AM Response to Original message |
134. Huckabee beats Hillary by five points. |
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w4rma (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 02:53 AM Response to Original message |
136. This poll is true. I can talk to anyone about Edwards but not Hillary. |
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Tellurian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 08:39 AM Response to Reply #136 |
156. You think an online Zogby poll is accurate.. |
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krj44 (93 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 04:41 AM Response to Original message |
138. if hil. is the nominee |
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wiley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 04:52 AM Response to Original message |
139. Clinton beats all in latest Gallup poll. And? |
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bowens43 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 05:30 AM Response to Original message |
140. There is no doubt in my mind that Hillary will lose if nominated. |
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Blue Gardener (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 06:28 AM Response to Original message |
143. A Republican told me he would vote for the devil |
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natrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 07:17 AM Response to Original message |
145. good-she is almost as creepy as bush-- |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 07:27 AM Response to Reply #145 |
147. What are you talking about? She's worse than bush |
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indimuse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 07:26 AM Response to Original message |
146. hmm... |
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mmarsh (27 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 08:27 AM Response to Reply #146 |
153. Anybody but Hillary... |
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usregimechange (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 08:16 AM Response to Original message |
152. That says it all |
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The Wizard (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 09:54 AM Response to Original message |
163. If Hillary gets the nomination |
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Stop Cornyn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 10:39 AM Response to Reply #163 |
170. Here in Texas, that's a dead certainty. She's down-ballot poison. |
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durrrty libby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 10:11 AM Response to Original message |
164. Wow Online polls are making it to the greatest page now |
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terranincognito (1 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 10:23 AM Response to Original message |
167. Ok..here's my 2 cents (well, more like 20) |
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SlingBlade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 10:37 AM Response to Original message |
168. Personally I know nobody |
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durrrty libby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 11:25 AM Response to Reply #168 |
175. "Personally I know nobody Who would vote for Hillary Clinton." |
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rAVES (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 11:41 AM Response to Reply #175 |
176. Clinton is not in anybodys best interests but her own. |
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durrrty libby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 12:15 PM Response to Reply #176 |
180. That's a big fat lie and you are in the category I mentioned |
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SlingBlade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 12:34 PM Response to Reply #180 |
181. You gotta problem with free speech pal |
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demo dutch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 01:17 PM Response to Reply #168 |
187. Are you suggesting that if she's the nominee you will vote for a Repug instead?????? |
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Bentcorner (385 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 11:43 AM Response to Original message |
177. The one thing I learned in a collage class tought by Zogby |
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Cleita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 12:47 PM Response to Reply #177 |
185. I didn't know Zogby taught collage. How artistic of him. |
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Bentcorner (385 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 01:40 PM Response to Reply #185 |
189. That was meant to be "College". What good is a poll where you can't trust the results? |
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Stop Cornyn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 12:15 PM Response to Original message |
179. Rasmussen's Florida polls confirms Hillary loses to the top 4 Republican candidates: |
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Cleita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 12:37 PM Response to Original message |
182. I participated in that poll and it shows. n/t |
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onehandle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 12:45 PM Response to Original message |
184. What about the other Democratic candidates? |
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Carrieyazel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 04:15 PM Response to Original message |
192. Richardson WILL beat them all. |
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William769 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 05:25 PM Response to Original message |
194. Well this poll has been debunked. next. |
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TeamJordan23 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 05:27 PM Response to Reply #194 |
195. by who? Hillary supporters. nm |
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William769 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 05:29 PM Response to Reply #195 |
197. Guess again. |
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PresidentObama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 05:32 PM Response to Original message |
198. She's too polarizing, her negatives are too high. Obama or Edwards is our best bet. |
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polichick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 05:51 PM Response to Original message |
199. It's astonishing to think ANY Republican would be ahead of any Dem... |
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Progressive Friend (362 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-27-07 05:56 PM Response to Original message |
201. This explains why rich right-wingers like Murdoch are giving Hillary money as well! |
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Czolgosz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-28-07 09:34 AM Response to Reply #201 |
204. I agree 100%! |
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