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Sat Nov-07-09 09:45 PM
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*** House Debate on Health Care Bill *** Thread 7 |
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Sat Nov-07-09 09:46 PM
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1. ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ |
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Sat Nov-07-09 09:46 PM
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2. I hope Nancy doesn't let him blather on all night! |
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Sat Nov-07-09 09:47 PM
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3. quit stalling already! |
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get on with the boner!
Edit: finally he shut up
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Sat Nov-07-09 09:47 PM
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4. When the heck are Boner's pants gonna catch fire? |
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He's been lying up a great big one. If he were Pinocchio, his nose would be 1,000,000,000,000 feet long!
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Sat Nov-07-09 09:47 PM
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5. Thanks for sticking with it annabanana. |
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Sat Nov-07-09 09:49 PM
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10. I may have to fold if THIS one goes to 100. . n/t |
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Sat Nov-07-09 09:48 PM
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6. so basically Boehner wants to reform health care, but doesn't want to do any of the work |
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Sat Nov-07-09 10:12 PM
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57. Like many DUers he is against any mandate to buy insurance |
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and against a mandate for people to have access to medical care as well
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Sat Nov-07-09 09:48 PM
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7. Boehner done, Now Dingell. 5 minutes. |
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Sat Nov-07-09 09:49 PM
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Sat Nov-07-09 09:49 PM
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9. Rep Dingell. Standing Ovation, cheers. |
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Sat Nov-07-09 09:50 PM
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11. Dingell quoting NY Times... doesn't he know that it's a "Liberal rag?" n/t |
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Sat Nov-07-09 09:52 PM
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Let's Roll Democrats ~ Where is Grayson?
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Sat Nov-07-09 09:51 PM
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12. "I will not spend much time on the Republican Plan.. It is not |
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Sat Nov-07-09 09:53 PM
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14. When did his Dad serve in Congress.. from when to when? |
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Sat Nov-07-09 09:53 PM
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15. Dingell has been around the block |
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Hell, he's older than the block!
He's a single payer man, but he gets it. We need to pass this to move the ball forward, and continue the fight even after passage.
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Sat Nov-07-09 09:58 PM
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And if HE says "most Americans will get a decent choice!" .... |
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.... then that's good enough for me. He knows MORE about the matter and has been working for it longer than ANYONE here.
And if anyone disagrees with him ....... well, they can kiss my tee-hiney.
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Sat Nov-07-09 09:53 PM
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16. The death of recision!. .YAY |
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Sat Nov-07-09 09:54 PM
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17. Dingell- A car in Canada costs $4/hr less to make because they have UNIVERSAL health care! n/t |
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Sat Nov-07-09 09:55 PM
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18. And the bill they're talking about tonight won't change that n/t |
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Sat Nov-07-09 09:55 PM
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19. HIM I could have listened to for a little longer |
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Sat Nov-07-09 09:57 PM
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23. Yeah, and less to the Orange Boner! n/t |
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Sat Nov-07-09 09:56 PM
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20. Here's the vote on the RepubliCON fecal amendment! n/t |
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Sat Nov-07-09 09:57 PM
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21. On edit - I see -- it's the evil stupak amendment |
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Sat Nov-07-09 09:57 PM
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Sat Nov-07-09 09:58 PM
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25. first the Stupak amendment, then the Repub substitution |
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Sat Nov-07-09 10:00 PM
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30. And then the real big vote we've all been waiting for. Fingers crossed!!! |
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Sat Nov-07-09 10:03 PM
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37. Who are the so far 13 Democrats voting in favor of this? |
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Sat Nov-07-09 09:57 PM
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22. They are going to vote on the amendments now - 15 minutes |
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Sat Nov-07-09 09:58 PM
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Sat Nov-07-09 09:58 PM
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27. Good, I need to catch up... |
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.... I'm five mins behind on the old DVR. :)
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Sat Nov-07-09 09:59 PM
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29. So much news flying - is the Stupak amendment expected to pass? |
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Sat Nov-07-09 10:00 PM
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32. I thought it failed by voice vote. Although the rumor was that whether this failed or passed |
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Dems still had the votes to pass the overall bill.
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Sat Nov-07-09 10:03 PM
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33. As a matter of standard practice someone |
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asked for a roll call vote and it was approved!
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Sat Nov-07-09 10:06 PM
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40. The compromise with Pelosi was that if she allowed a vote on it, they'd vote for the final bill |
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whether it passed or not.
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Sat Nov-07-09 10:05 PM
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38. Seem like it might be close |
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But they just said on CSpan that some of the Republicans might vote present. That seems stupid as a strategy, but then again they are Republicans.
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Sat Nov-07-09 09:58 PM
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28. Announcer on C-SPAN - This is representitive Cancer, er Cantor... n/t |
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too funny! I think he's got it!
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Sat Nov-07-09 10:00 PM
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31. freudian slip. cantor IS a cancer on the congress. nt |
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Sat Nov-07-09 10:03 PM
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34. Just watching the numbers flip around. . Caller thinks that AARP |
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Sat Nov-07-09 10:03 PM
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35. Reporter on C-Span just said a handful of Repubs. will vote "present" on Stupak bill! |
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They want it to fail, but they don't want to vote for "abortion." They think if this amendment fails, the whole BILL will fail. But it won't. Stupak told Pelosi as long as they allow a vote, they'll vote for the final bill.
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Sat Nov-07-09 10:06 PM
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39. At least one will vote "present" and the anti-choicers are not happy about it... |
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Sat Nov-07-09 10:07 PM
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43. Yeah-that's the guy the reporter named. I hope the Repubs. don't pressure him to change his mind. |
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Sat Nov-07-09 10:03 PM
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36. Wow, Stupak amendment getting its ass kicked so far - 101 Nay-89 Yea.nt |
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Sat Nov-07-09 10:07 PM
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42. Not so fast, Speedy Gonzalez! 117 yea, 130 ney now n/t |
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Sat Nov-07-09 10:07 PM
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44. That's why I included the "so far." :) nt :) |
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Sat Nov-07-09 10:08 PM
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Sat Nov-07-09 10:10 PM
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51. I see Repubs have peeled off 46 Dems so far for the dark side. nt |
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Sat Nov-07-09 10:13 PM
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59. 52 now. There's now way we can win on this one. The numbers are no longer there. |
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Sat Nov-07-09 10:14 PM
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68. The one win is that Stupak no longer has any excuse to not vote for the House bill. |
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Although his name will now live in infamy amongst Democrats.
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Sat Nov-07-09 10:07 PM
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41. I swear I can't listen to these CSPAN callers..... |
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.... somebody yell when the vote is over so I can switch back to CSPAN. lol
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Sat Nov-07-09 10:08 PM
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47. Clio, no kidding sometimes it's painful to listen to |
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Sat Nov-07-09 10:13 PM
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61. I'm taking this time to watch all the broo ha ha from this morning... |
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.... that I was READING everyone's reaction to before I went to work. Glad things calmed down a bit. "I object! I object!"
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Sat Nov-07-09 10:09 PM
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50. that young repub caller got owned |
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said how the repubs want the preexisting conditions out too and was immediately told that the repub version doesn't take out preexisting conditions :rofl:
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Sat Nov-07-09 10:14 PM
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67. Like fingernails on a chalkboard. |
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The level of intelligence is extremely low with some of them.
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Sat Nov-07-09 10:08 PM
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45. There's 36 dems voting yea already?. . yikes |
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Sat Nov-07-09 10:11 PM
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And comes out in conference.
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Sat Nov-07-09 10:09 PM
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48. Have any of you watching this thread called in to Cspan? Fess up... |
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You know who you are...
:rofl:
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Sat Nov-07-09 10:10 PM
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52. Bill will pass. Dems don't have enough votes left to defeat it. |
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Sat Nov-07-09 10:12 PM
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56. Hopefully the "substitute fecal amendment" will not pass.. n/t |
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Sat Nov-07-09 10:13 PM
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62. And I bet my Blue Dog voted for it. |
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64. Unbelieable I am so pissed. This better get tossed in reconciliation. |
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Sat Nov-07-09 10:16 PM
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73. That's Boehner's big fear. I hope it gets tossed, too. |
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Sat Nov-07-09 10:11 PM
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54. I hope this guy calling in to CSPAN now doesn't pay his taxes when the bill passes |
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so he gets thrown in "prison for five years and fined $200k."
And that way he won't be able to call in to Cspan any more.
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Sat Nov-07-09 10:12 PM
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55. I love watching old men decide what's best for us women. |
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I guess we are much too stupid to be the bosses of our own 'ginas.
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Sat Nov-07-09 10:12 PM
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58. that rnc caller was full of crap. |
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he's soooo independent, yet he thinks boner is great.
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Sat Nov-07-09 10:13 PM
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63. I bet he got one watching the Orange Erection. n/t |
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Sat Nov-07-09 10:13 PM
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Well, there's always conference.
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Sat Nov-07-09 10:14 PM
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Stupak bill passed? damn...
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Sat Nov-07-09 10:14 PM
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66. Doesn't look good....200-173 |
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Sat Nov-07-09 10:15 PM
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69. Aren't they redeciding |
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Sat Nov-07-09 10:16 PM
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71. No - just what your tax payer dollars will pay for.... |
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Sat Nov-07-09 10:18 PM
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I had no say in my tax money going there, and it wasn't even legal.
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Sat Nov-07-09 10:19 PM
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80. wouldn't it have been better if we could have opted out of taxes for Iraq as well? |
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If a woman gets health insurance from the pool, she will not even be allowed to purchase, with her own private funds, supplemental abortion insurance. She will be kicked out of the pool. Her only option is her full payment for private insurance including abortions.
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Sat Nov-07-09 10:17 PM
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75. Not even close. 236-190 right now with 63 f-ing dems voting yes. |
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Sat Nov-07-09 10:16 PM
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70. Glad we funneled all that money to the Democrats last year |
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Way to go in differentiating yourselves.
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Sat Nov-07-09 10:17 PM
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77. If any of the ones I funded voted for this one, they will hear it for me. |
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I will not donate to the national party, however, I will vote for the individual. I will donate to the local town and county party.
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Sat Nov-07-09 10:16 PM
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72. Crap, minority and poor women just got raped |
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Even middle class... This better be takin care of in conference with the Senate bill...
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Sat Nov-07-09 10:17 PM
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76. While I understand your anger and frustration.... |
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... "rape" is not a word to be throwing around.
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Sat Nov-07-09 10:18 PM
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79. I hope it gets changed in conference! |
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For some reason, anti-choice forces seem to be getting the upper hand. We've got to start calling them "anti-choice" instead of "pro-life."
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Sat Nov-07-09 10:16 PM
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74. Shocked to see 63 dems (so far) vote yea on Stupak |
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Sat Nov-07-09 10:19 PM
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81. Find out who they are, and ream them a new one! n/t |
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Sat Nov-07-09 10:20 PM
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82. Now on to the "Republican Bill". . |
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Sat Nov-07-09 10:21 PM
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83. Five mind vote for the Boner ammendment then onto the big vote. |
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Sat Nov-07-09 10:21 PM
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84. FIVE minute vote on the "substitute" n/t |
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Sat Nov-07-09 10:21 PM
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86. WTF. A Dem voted Yea for the Boehner bill!?!?!?! nt |
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Sat Nov-07-09 10:23 PM
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89. They fixed the tally. I saw that flash too, but it's back to zero. |
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Sat Nov-07-09 10:22 PM
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88. Wonder who the 1 dem was who votes yea for Boner bill and then nay? |
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Sat Nov-07-09 10:24 PM
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91. wouldn't you be sleepy at this point? n/t |
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Sat Nov-07-09 10:25 PM
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93. OMG -- I would need to be all hopped up on Sudafed if I were there |
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Sat Nov-07-09 10:23 PM
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90. Boner amendment just got deflated! |
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And lookie, lookie... one brave RepubliCON soul voted against it.. You know that he'll get a beating from the Orange man tonight!
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Sat Nov-07-09 10:25 PM
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of congress I mean.
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Sat Nov-07-09 10:26 PM
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99. Wonder if that's the Calif. rep? |
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I saw there's a rep from Calif. who "might" vote yay. Maybe that's the nay vote as well?
Oops. Apologies. I'm getting tired, and I hit the wrong place to reply. This was a response to the lone GOP dissenter on the fake Repub. alternative.
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97. Yessiree! They're voting now. |
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Sat Nov-07-09 10:25 PM
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94. Looks like one puke voted against Boner. Might we have that vote? Interesting. |
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Sat Nov-07-09 10:25 PM
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95. Oooh. A GOP dissenter. Is that Ahn Cao? nt |
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Sat Nov-07-09 10:26 PM
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98. A lone republican voted nay -- wonder who it is? |
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Sat Nov-07-09 10:29 PM
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101. Might be Boner himself. |
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I've seen that done for procedural reasons.
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Sat Nov-07-09 10:41 PM
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128. c-span now saying it was Johnson -IL. |
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Sat Nov-07-09 10:29 PM
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100. see, the Blue Dogs aren't TOTALLY worthless..... |
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... since they helped defeat the GOP plan. :)
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Sat Nov-07-09 10:30 PM
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102. oh no, cancer objects to healthcare bill. nt |
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Sat Nov-07-09 10:30 PM
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106. This isn't a surprise |
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Sat Nov-07-09 10:30 PM
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103. Cantor is stalling further. |
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Sat Nov-07-09 10:30 PM
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104. Now we have to listen to Cantor stall. . What will he use to try |
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Sat Nov-07-09 10:31 PM
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109. God - what a royal douche. Like a petulant child. |
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Sat Nov-07-09 10:30 PM
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105. Now what's happening? Will there be hours more of debate? |
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Sat Nov-07-09 10:30 PM
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107. what in the HELL NOW IS THIS???? |
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Sat Nov-07-09 10:32 PM
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112. This guy is making no sense. When he talks it sounds like he is whining. |
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Sat Nov-07-09 10:30 PM
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108. If Cancer has a motion to recommit with instructions, |
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it's 10 min of debate... 5 each side. If not, it can kill the bill. http://rules.house.gov/Archives/recommit_mot.htm
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Sat Nov-07-09 10:31 PM
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Sat Nov-07-09 10:31 PM
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110. O Brother, here we go: Cue the tape -- songs of the beloved "tort reform." nt |
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Sat Nov-07-09 10:33 PM
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115. Call out the Whaaaaambulance! |
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Sat Nov-07-09 10:32 PM
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113. lol He' s quoting Howard Dean.. who'da thunk. . it's all tort all the time |
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Sat Nov-07-09 10:33 PM
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114. hear cancer, stop taking dean out of context. besides tort reform only affects 1-2% of medical costs |
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Sat Nov-07-09 10:34 PM
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116. I think this is kind of a thin thread to hang a stall on. . |
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Sat Nov-07-09 10:34 PM
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117. medicare advantage? looks like she putting insurance company profits first. |
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Sat Nov-07-09 10:35 PM
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118. Ginny Brown-Waite should changer her name to Brown-NOSE! n/t |
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Sat Nov-07-09 10:36 PM
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119. Johnson of Illinois was the R voting against the Boner amendment. n/t |
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Sat Nov-07-09 10:38 PM
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122. did he or she press the wrong button by accident or something? |
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Sat Nov-07-09 10:37 PM
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120. so repubs only want choice when it's ripping off seniors. nt |
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Sat Nov-07-09 10:37 PM
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121. Did this just turn into the House of Commons? |
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Sat Nov-07-09 10:39 PM
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125. lol, I was about to say..... |
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..... this would be SO much more fun if we suspended parliamentary procedure and started carrying on ....... like Parliament!
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Sat Nov-07-09 10:38 PM
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123. "trial lawyers". what a bunch of sore-losing BABIES!!! nt |
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Sat Nov-07-09 10:39 PM
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126. Whaaaaambulance time! |
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Sat Nov-07-09 10:41 PM
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They want to stall this forever, I swear!
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Sat Nov-07-09 10:41 PM
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129. Beginning to sound like the British Parliament. |
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They must have let the teabaggers into the gallery,
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Sat Nov-07-09 10:42 PM
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130. heh, so Steny Hoyer can get fired up after all |
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He usually seems so tame.
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Sat Nov-07-09 10:44 PM
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136. Seriously. Who's spine did he borrow? n/t |
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Sat Nov-07-09 10:42 PM
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132. Were those the teabaggers in the gallery, or the teabaggers in the aisles. nt |
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Sat Nov-07-09 10:43 PM
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Sat Nov-07-09 10:44 PM
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135. Last gasp for the Boner amendment... FIFTEEN minutes n/t |
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Sat Nov-07-09 10:45 PM
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137. HEY.. There's a NEW THREAD! |
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Sat Nov-07-09 10:45 PM
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138. Another GOP vote against the party position. |
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Sat Nov-07-09 10:47 PM
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139. rather sickening how cspan gives equal time to 20% of the electorate. |
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in a just world, there would be 5 dem calls for every repub call. then again, in a just world, there would be no republican party.
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