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Mon Nov-09-09 03:35 PM
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Obama should pass an executive order abolishing insurance companies!!! |
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Mon Nov-09-09 03:36 PM
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1. Home? Life? Auto? Flood? |
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Mon Nov-09-09 03:36 PM
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2. I am not quite sure how or if that would work! |
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Maybe, it could work if he said that insurance companies had to be nonprofit as they once were. I don't even know if that could happen.
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Mon Nov-09-09 03:37 PM
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3. I wish he would, but he likes them too much. I remember some speech he was giving where he said |
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that we can't do away with insurance companies, because our friends and relatives work for them.
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Mon Nov-09-09 03:38 PM
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4. An arugument once used to defend the slave trade |
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of course. So not a strong argument in my book.
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Mon Nov-09-09 03:41 PM
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7. I do have a relative that works for one in customer service |
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He answers phones and answers questions about the status of claims, helps with paperwork, and what not.
So it is true, There are friends and relatives who work for them.
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Mon Nov-09-09 03:43 PM
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12. That would seem to be an accurate statement. |
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Abolishing insurance companies would put a significant number of people out of work, some of whom might even be friends and relatives.
That's ok, though. I'm sure they'll find other jobs.
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Mon Nov-09-09 04:03 PM
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18. You want him to violate the constitution? |
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Tue Nov-10-09 08:16 AM
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32. He also said he wanted to build up a Uniquely American system-the |
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health insurance companies. And he and congress have done that so far!! They are trying to fix things around the fringes of a broken "stytem"!! damm.
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Mon Nov-09-09 03:39 PM
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5. It's sad to contemplate... |
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...how, after over 220 years, some of us still want to have a king, and that a good third of the people who voted for Obama last year walked away from the voting booth saying "Now we've got our Bush, and the son-of-a-bitch better start breaking shit."
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Mon Nov-09-09 03:42 PM
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11. If the OP is serious, this is actually worse than Boosh's sycophantic apologists. |
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Most of them don't know any better.
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Mon Nov-09-09 03:50 PM
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16. Pretty sure he's not, since no one in their right mind |
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would suggest abolishing insurance companies. The CEOs are dickknobs, but the people who work for them might not be.
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Mon Nov-09-09 04:22 PM
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23. oh i'd bet you a lot of money you could find a bunch here. |
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Mon Nov-09-09 04:41 PM
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26. I used to be one of them. |
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Mon Nov-09-09 03:48 PM
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15. Yes, sad that some people do not know how the US govt. works. |
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Or at least is supposed to.
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Mon Nov-09-09 04:22 PM
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24. Is the form of government more important than the manifestations of government? |
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While historic examples suggest that a monarchy does not often act in the interests of their people, the poster is clearly posting with a hypothetical of a benevolent "king" in mind (which may or may not be realistic). While you may find disdain for the notion of a king/dictator/etc, is it rather more important what the governing action results in, rather than its very structure? While America has a representative democracy (and we all hail democracy), its manifestation has definitely not been in the interests of the people at large on important issues. Whereas a king is already rich, saavy lying politicians can enter their field to be sold to the highest bidder, creating a natural conflict of interest within the governing class.
Now, I don't think it is a stretch for me to see that democracies, overall, produce better results than dictatorships. But when someone is referencing but a single example with a positive result in mind, its a bit hyper-critical to take the approach of dictatorships-always-bad-in-every-scenario (even the ones where the needs of the people are actually met).
You may have a better argument by attacking their grammer
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Tue Nov-10-09 01:32 PM
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40. The potential for harm really is always greater in a monarchy/dictatorship. |
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There really is no question about that. All it takes is the wrong person taking over, leaving the people with no real recourse but a coup. That said, I would agree that for some situations, it can be better than a democracy. Iraq, with its multiple and very distinct ethnic populations, immediately comes to mind.
However, I would sooner argue that in those situations that the nation itself be split apart rather than forcing a situation where people cannot live amicably under one democratic government. Perhaps it's time we start considering the United States a candidate for such a solution. I know I've long argued that Lincoln made a huge mistake in not allowing the Confederacy to separate from the union.
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Mon Nov-09-09 03:39 PM
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Under what authority, exactly, may a president abolish private companies?
Barack ain't Hugo...
Besides, until something else is in place, I'll keep my insurance coverage (hopefully).
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Tue Nov-10-09 09:14 AM
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33. Under what authority can Congress force you to pay a private corporation? |
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Tue Nov-10-09 10:02 AM
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Mon Nov-09-09 03:41 PM
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8. "Surely You Don't Want "Total Gov Takeover of HC" ,,,, "Surely You Don't" |
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Mon Nov-09-09 03:41 PM
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Mon Nov-09-09 03:42 PM
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10. huffing glue is very dangerous for your health. |
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Mon Nov-09-09 03:46 PM
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13. Not me. I am not with stupid. |
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Mon Nov-09-09 03:48 PM
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14. I don't believe he has the authority to do that |
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The legislative branch has the power to regulate interstate commerce.
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Mon Nov-09-09 03:52 PM
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17. Obama needs to get his education agenda passed real fast |
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because what I've been seeing on DU lately shows that 8 years of Bush have dumbed the population down to terrifying levels of ignorance.
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Mon Nov-09-09 05:23 PM
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Edited on Mon Nov-09-09 05:24 PM by Blue-Jay
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Mon Nov-09-09 04:04 PM
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19. Unrec'd for advocating a violation of the constitution |
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and flunking grade school civics.
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Mon Nov-09-09 04:09 PM
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21. it makes me wonder if half the posters here are even of voting age yet... |
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Mon Nov-09-09 04:07 PM
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20. That would be illegal. |
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Mon Nov-09-09 04:17 PM
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22. He isn't, he said the insurance companies perform an "important role." What that is, I don't know. |
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Mon Nov-09-09 04:41 PM
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Just discouraged from the posts I was reading today. I thought maybe I had been transported to bizarro world. I guess not by the mostly sensible posts here.
(Anyone have any doubts about my sanity or grasp of issues is free to search my name.)
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Tue Nov-10-09 10:51 AM
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38. Got ya! Funny! But next time, don't forget your sarcasm smilie! nt |
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Mon Nov-09-09 11:46 PM
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29. Um...how do you "pass" and edict? |
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I guess you eat the thing and wait...
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Tue Nov-10-09 01:11 AM
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30. Obama has too much respect for our democratic-republic to do that. (nt) |
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Tue Nov-10-09 08:11 AM
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Health insurance companies are profitting off of sickness! Their policies actually make people sick, so that they make more profit! Obama should make it illegal to work for a health insurance industry in any form. Make it retroactive too - people who used to work for health insurance companies but quit shouldn't get a free pass! They knew exactly what they were doing! Lock em all up!
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Tue Nov-10-09 09:34 AM
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34. I voted for Obama, not Chavez |
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Tue Nov-10-09 09:55 AM
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35. It will be 200 years before enough people figure out why that is a good idea to |
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actually do that. Although some of us know why already.
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Tue Nov-10-09 10:08 AM
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37. Exactly what do you think the range of Obama's powers is? nt |
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Tue Nov-10-09 01:13 PM
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39. He's the President, not Willy Wonka. |
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