Slyder
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Mon May-02-05 09:17 PM
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A couple of weeks ago a resident of the KC metro area spit tobacco juice on Jane Fonda. The KC Star said about 2/3 of the letters it received, approved of the spitting. Now while I do think that Miss Fonda's actions in North Vietnam went beyond bad judgment, I did not approve of the spitting. My disapproval is largely due to the respect for the elderly (she is 67) that my parents brought me up with. But several RW acquaintances of mine said they approved of the spitting.
Doesn't the approval of spitting in this case now empower me to spit on people who's views I dislike? I mean, what's good for the goose, is good for the gander. Right? Should I be practicing my tobacco chewing so I can spit on Republicans? I know this could escalate and make a real mess, but I just thought I'd ask.
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Mon May-02-05 09:20 PM
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just because other little jerks do something doesn't mean we can.
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proud2BlibKansan
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Mon May-02-05 09:20 PM
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2. Okay but for the record |
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You like my views on everything.
So please don't spit on me.
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Mon May-02-05 09:22 PM
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3. I used to chew tobacco |
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And I'm talking Red Man, Levi Garrette and Beechnut. In July I would chew "plug" tobacco though.
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Mon May-02-05 09:22 PM
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4. Spitting is unsanitary and rude. |
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But a swift kick in the yarbles works wonders.
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Mon May-02-05 09:22 PM
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Edited on Mon May-02-05 09:25 PM by Trajan
You are wise and insightful ....
Spitting on someone .. is assault ....
It is a crime ....
One might as well grab a baseball bat and swing away: the same impulse drives both sociopathic acts ....
No ... since it is wrong for someone to spit on you, it is just as wrong for you to spit on someone else .... Tu Quoque fallacy ...
Think: Golden Rule ....
But I gotta admit: ... spitting a wad of disgusting juice on, say, Pat Robertson's awful twisted face, would be a sort of metaphysical justice ... an ugly poetry, if you will ....
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Inland
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Mon May-02-05 09:23 PM
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6. Jane Fonda is "elderly?" |
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I wish me and Grammy had a date or two.
But don't chew tobacco. It's disgusting and causes oral cancer.
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Mon May-02-05 09:24 PM
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7. No it doesn't although I would like to say yes |
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your first instincts are best. That being said KS might just be the state where armed resistance occurs. The more oppressive the more reaction. They are refighting the Scopes trial there. backward rubes
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proud2BlibKansan
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Tue May-03-05 08:33 AM
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16. Do you think I am a 'backward rube'? |
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and Muse and Mabus and Comer and Atommom? We do try to be forward rubes as often as possible.
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Tue May-03-05 09:40 PM
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18. are you refighting the Scopes trial? |
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I mean on the flat earth side of the issue. I doubt it Of course i didn't mean you, besides you are not a repuke.
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XanaDUer
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Mon May-02-05 09:24 PM
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8. We could poop on them. |
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Wait. They might like that. :shrug:
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Trajan
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Mon May-02-05 09:27 PM
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ok ok .... that was childish ....
But reverting to our monkey-selves would somehow seem proper .... given the crazy zoo our nation has become .... Flinging feces at our rivals would seem SO right ! ...
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Mon May-02-05 10:00 PM
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Mon May-02-05 10:23 PM
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14. Flinging Monkey Shit. That sounds like a pro evolution rally. |
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Mon May-02-05 09:28 PM
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10. I suspect that those that approve of |
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the pie in the face are using the same logic. Assault is assault, and should be condemned unless all else fails.
Sometimes a little revolution is a good thing. Just figuring out when that is is the trick.
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Mon May-02-05 10:25 PM
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15. I think they should have stuck to pies. I think the spit in the face is |
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lower than the pie in the face. Perhaps not as messy, but yuckier.
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Mon May-02-05 09:28 PM
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11. Don't know about goose and gander but that KC spitter must have |
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learned table manners from a Llama!
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Mon May-02-05 10:10 PM
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13. Spitting on someone in KS is battery |
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Tue May-03-05 08:35 AM
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17. Actually the spitting incident happened |
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in MO and the guy was arrested and charged with assault. However, Jane Fonda declined to press charges so I suppose there is a chance the charges will be dropped.
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Tue May-03-05 11:26 PM
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19. You would be just as validated as that FReeper who spit on Fonda |
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But, he was completely in the wrong.
I see your point though.
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Wed May-04-05 10:22 AM
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20. Glad to see not everyone is insane |
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Jane Fonda's action during the Vietnam war were REPREHENSIBLE and I think she knows that now - maybe not.... but in America.. you are free to express your opinions.. travel the world as you see fit.. and be a total butt-crack if you feel the need. My personal opinion was that she was WRONG in what she did.. and that she did not really have a clue as to what her actions would mean to some... but with that said... If I were spit on every time I offended someone.. or for asinine actions I have taken in the last 40+ years... I would be drowning in Tobacco juice.. which by the way...causes low birth weight.. and I think many others would be to..
Intelligent people do not express themselves like this.. That man had the right to call her every name in the book... to tell her he would LIKE to spit on her.. but he does not have the right to spit on her.. even if he is a Vet. I have the most respect for the people who lay their lives on the line for our country.. but that does not give them the right to infringe on the rights of others.. even scumbags like Jane Fonda.
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Wed May-11-05 09:37 AM
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Wed May-04-05 01:18 PM
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Edited on Wed May-04-05 01:19 PM by daydreamer
Did he dare to spit on Nixon? Was Jane Fonda responsible for any of the 50,000 young men and millions of Vietnamese killed by that war?
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Wed May-04-05 05:27 PM
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I get your point... I agree.. she was not responsible for ANY deaths.. and I REALLY don't think she got the GRAVITY of how her actions would effect the soldiers or the nation... I think she was a hippie celebrity that got caught up in the anti-war movement but took it WAY too far.. Personally.. I am TOTALLY against what we are doing in Iraq.. it was stupid and poorly timed. Saddam needed to be ousted.. but I don't think we needed to lose more American lives to do it.. but am I gonna go pose on top of a insurgent car bomb.. (no..not a celebrity).. totally classless and tasteless.. but my guess it was the impulse action of a person that meant well ... do I boycott any of Jane's stuff... well.. besides the work out videos.. absolutely not. She is human.. and has admitted it was a mistake.. in my book she is forgiven.
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Wed May-04-05 08:12 PM
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was a little different than Iraq war. It was a civil war in Vietnam and the side we were helping was a dictatorship too. The majority of the Vietnam people supported communism. We had no business there at all. Killing millions of the people just because they had a different belief was not much different from holocaust.
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Thu May-05-05 12:56 AM
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24. that would make you the John Brown of spit |
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If the other side is resorting to spit and approves of it, then we must respond in kind.
Then again, the 2/3 is only a measure of the busybodies who saw fit to write a LTTE on the subject, hardly representative of the view of the whole population, at least not necessarily.
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