Who's watching the Republican gubernatorial debate tonight?

[crispini]

I have to admit, I'm really looking forward to seeing Medina. I think the wild card effect should be very entertaining.

[derby378]

1. A corporatist, a teabagger, and a Palinista

Who to pick, who to pick, who to pick? :silly:

[crispini]

2. Damnit, when I saw your subject like I thought for sure the rest would be a joke.

A corporatist, a teabagger, and a Palinista walk into a bar.

The bartender looks at them and says, "The Republican debate's next door, ya'll!"

Mmmm.... weak... needs work! :D

[white cloud]

3. Maybe they should just have another Cock Fight

Never been, but I am sure they would both be entertaining.

[crispini]

4. .

A corporatist governor, a teabagger, and a Palinista walk into a bar.

The bartender looks at them and says, "The cock fight's next door, ya'll!"

Mmmmm.... still needs work.... :D

[derby378]

5. Actually, I figured Perry as the Palinista

I hear he's getting his lips surgically grafted to Sarah Palin's butt. That leaves Kay Bailout as the corporatist and Debra Medina as the teabagger.

But the challenge you pose is formidable. How do I turn this into a workable joke? Can I?

[CoolOnion]

11. Okay, I've got it...

A corporatist, a teabagger, and a Palinista walk into a bar.

Bartender says...

"GET THE FUCK OUT OF MY BAR, YOU RIGHT WING FREAKS!!!"

:rofl:

[crispini]

12. Hee. Pretty good.

Although I think I'd go for "dipshits" not freaks.

:lol:

[CoolOnion]

15. Good one!

"Dipshits" is definitely an improvement.

[CoolOnion]

17. Or...

The bartender looks at them and says, "The Klan meeting's next door, ya'll!" :toast:

[crispini]

18. CoolOnion FTW!

Ok, that's pretty epic. You get the gold star. :D

Double-dog dare you to tell it at the next Party meeting. :rofl:

[tammywammy]

6. I listened to a bit on the radio

I was actually stunned when a audience member asked about the futile life law and Perry and Hutchinson both said they didn't know about it. Then a moderator asked Perry if he would work to over turn it, he said he didn't know we had this law, but that he would. THEN the audience member pointed out that it BECAME law when he was lt. governor!

I'd be a teeny tiny bit willing to let it slide that Hutchinson didn't know about it, but Perry, oh hell no. And the 3rd candidate also brought up that it's been on the books his whole governorship and why should we believe him now when he says he'd want to overturn it, when he hasn't done it this whole time.

I was shocked and then I laughed.

[sonias]

7. I sense a YouTube moment coming

Lets see how quickly KBH can get that up on SlickRick.

I missed the whole damn thing, but I'm sure we'll see some good reports.

Thanks for that update Tammy!

:hi:

Sonia

[tammywammy]

10. The other parts I heard were

Perry asked Hutchinson about the bailout she voted for. She pointed out a letter he wrote supporting the bailout. There was a lot of back and forth on it between the two of them.

When I turned on the radio they were talking about abortion. Hutchinson was saying that she wasn't really for the repeal of Roe v Wade, because it would make "abortion safe havens" in certain states and she feels that the limitations we have now on abortion are enough.

[sonias]

24. Just watched that clip

It was a good question and Perry is quite the idiot not remembering what that law does. He was Lt. Gov. when bush signed the law. Medina (the 3rd candidate) really gave it to him saying he had 9 years to repeal the law if he really supported life.

The clip is on the http://texasdebates.org/video.php site. It's about 36 minutes into the debate.

Wikipedia entry
The Texas Advance Directives Act (1999), also known as the Texas Futile Care Law, describes certain provisions that are now Chapter 166 of the Texas Health & Safety Code. Controversy over these provisions mainly centers on Section 166.046, Subsection (e),(1) which allows a health care facility to discontinue life-sustaining treatment against the wishes of the patient or guardian ten days after giving written notice if the continuation of life-sustaining treatment is considered medically inappropriate by the treating medical team.

Sonia

[Jack_DeLeon]

8. Medina looks like the normal one in the bunch...

[WolverineDG]

19. Until she said EMTALA provided financial incentives for illegals

to clog our ERs.

No, you fuckwit, EMTALA means that hospitals HAVE to take care of you, even if you don't have money or insurance. :banghead:

dg

[Nancy Boy]

9. This is great

I recorded it and I'm watching it now. In the first question both Perry and Hutchison are showed to be empty politicians pandering for votes when Medina pointed out that their "favorite program" that, they claimed, the Federal Government did well, wasn't actually being done well by the Federal Government (the military). And then thing got ugly and stayed there. These three shouldn't be politicians, let alone Governor. I can't wait until White gets on the stage with them.

Is there going to be a Democratic debate?

[sonias]

14. I'm sure there is

But with 7 candidates on the slate for the Democrats - the devil is in the details. I bet Bill White will control a lot about how that's going to come off. They might do something like the national debates and say if you are not polling at 5% you don't get to participate in the debate.

We'll see.


Sonia

[sonias]

13. BOR live blogged it - Cover it Live

The question that tammywammy heard via radio:

BOR - Liveblogging the GOP Gubernatorial Debate
(snip)
7:37
(snip)
Karl-Thomas Musselman:
Texas Advance Directive Act question. she talked so fast I honestly don't know what her question was.

Comment From Phillip MartinPhillip Martin:
Perry on the advanced directives act: "I always stand on the side of life." Sounded a lot like Clinton's "I feel your pain."

(snip)
Comment From RBearSATRBearSAT:
Perry seems to have slept through a lot of his terms in government.

(snip)
Comment From JenniferJennifer:
I'm watching now. YES, I know about that advanced directive. It basically says that if a hospital decides a patient is going to die but a family doesn't want to take the person off life support, the hospital can send the patient to another hospital. I learned about it during the whole "death panel" BS on HCR.

(snip)
Karl-Thomas Musselman:
If you scroll up to 7:59 you can see the closing poll numbers.

Closing poll- Who do you feel won tonight's debate?
Kay Bailey Hutchison ( 48% )
Debra Medina ( 39% )
Rick Perry ( 4% )
No clear winner ( 9% )

Hell I feel like I was there. Great job BOR!
:applause:

Sonia

[WolverineDG]

20. Advanced Directives are not the same thing as the Futile Life Law

Advanced Directives are living wills (DNRs, Directive to Physician, etc). If Rs are going after ADs, folks, this is trouble (think Terry Schiavo). The Futile Life Law, otoh, deserves to be shit-canned.

dg

[sonias]

21. Thanks for clarifiying that dg

It is confusing. So the futile life law is still the one that passed under Perry right? Maybe it was bush. But either way that one is a death panel - where the hospital executives decide whether a patient is worthy of living, right?

I think "Advanced Directives" needs a better name. What was wrong with living wills? I like that. You're alive when you sign a will and it tells everyone after you're not able to, how to handle things.

:hi:

Sonia

[WolverineDG]

22. It's called that to keep it from being confused with the Last Will

Last Wills are only effective after a person dies. The Advanced Directive takes effect immediately. You can even appoint someone to have a medical power of attorney to make medical decisions for you if you later become unable to make those decisions.

And yeah, Futile Life was signed by Shrubbie whilst Good Hair was preening in the Light Gov's office & yelling at DPS troopers who pulled him over for speeding.

dg

[sonias]

16. Texas Tribune Liveblog with pics

The First Gubernatorial Debate: Liveblog
7:16 p.m. by Elise Hu
Things get a little testy as the topic turns to unemployment. Perry uses this to pivot into his main campaign message - that this is the best state to be living in to find a job. Pressed, Perry gets a little defensive - "It wears me out that we have two people on stage that want to tear Texas down.

What a joke. Perry does a great job of tearing Texas down all by himself.

He's like a Karl Rove playbook - "make your weaknesses your enemies weaknesses". He learned this from his evil master. :puke:

Sonia

[sonias]

23. The debate is online - if you can stomach watching it

I got the tip from The Texas Tribune.

texasdebates.org/video.php

Perry looks downright creepy - fake and an empty suit kind of guy. He reminds me of bush, except that he at least has some language skills. :puke:

Sonia

[Blue Texas Voter]

25. Just had dinner, I really could not stomach it

And my TV refused to go there ( it's a democrate also ) and I am low on blood pressure pills so I would have to stay calm-NOT!
Any good dem candidates running? How about White?

And who the hell does Rick Perry think he is wanting to take Texas out of America, does this mean HE no longer wants to be an American, I've got news for him I will personally buy him a one way ticket to anywhere except Texas.

[sonias]

26. I'll pitch in to buy him that ticket out of America

I bet we could collect the money real quick!

Bill White is our candidate. He's the guy who will win the Democratic primary race in my opinion.


Sonia

[sonias]

27. Round Two Debate from Friday 1/29

Texas Observer 1/30/10
GOP Debate II: Medina Scores, Perry Defends, Hutchison Benches Herself

The single most stunning thing about Friday night's Republican debate was the fact that Sen. Kay Bailey Hutchison did not belong on the same stage with upstart libertarian Debra Medina. The second most stunning thing was the gross journalistic malpractice committed by a TV anchor who was given a golden opportunity to grill Gov. Rick Perry.

Hutchison's dismal performance—even worse than in the first debate—was probably the most significant news of the night. How could a woman who's been in elected office for 20 years running—and was once Texas' first female TV newswoman, and has no shortage of big-bucks consultants to drill her—show up for a televised debate that she had to win and just quietly, passively, self-destruct? But that's exactly what the senator did in Dallas. Looking and sounding heavily narcotized, offering absolutely no reason for anyone to support her, the lady vanished before our eyes. And her dwindling hopes of being elected governor might very well have vanished too.

(snip)
The governor was assisted mightily by the inexcusable idiocy of many of the questions tossed at him—especially the big, fat, underhanded softballs pitched by KHOU-TV anchor Len Cannon. If Hutchison had no business on the stage, Cannon should have been picked up and thrown roughly out of the picture after committing the most sickening display of butt-kissing by a journalist that I have seen in many years. If Perry's people could have dictated the questions they wanted asked, they couldn't have done better than Cannon did himself.

Len Cannon is a Perry ass-kisser then.

Sonia