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hang a left Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-05-05 10:52 PM
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Anyone read 'In God's Name' An Investigation into the Murder of Pope JP1
I just finished it and was wondering if anyone wanted to chat about it a little bit.

I really enjoy this forum but don't come here much. I love to read and have read alot of non-fiction books since I found DU.

I am just getting ready to start 'The Outlaw Bank A Wild Ride into the Secret Heart of BCCI.

But that 'People's History of the US' sounds awesome. May have to pick that one up this weekend.

Anyway hi all.
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swag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-05-05 10:55 PM
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1. I think Mark E. Smith has read "In God's Name"
http://www.freedonia.com/~jeff/fall/a-s.html

HEY LUCIANI!

Aborteum.
I said Luciani
The future's here today
I said Hey Luciani
Pope of three three days

They made out you were are an ultra nut
And had no time for your Christianity
You paid with your life for their treachery
The future's here today
The future's here to stay
Luciani

Hey Luciani
Jesus has gone away
I said Hey Luciani
Meet the Church, Bank, S.A.**

They said you were of peasant stock
And one day the curia murdered you
Your hermetics are through
And on that fruited plain
The corporate bishop's graze
Exit church of poverty and pain
The future's here today
The future's here to stay

Hey Luciani
A pop star in your cell
I said Hey Luciani
A Polish son of Hell

You were the first John Paul I
How is it your 'Christian' is gone?
Can you see it from your grave?
The TV snow-storm on top,
The brass Holy Grail
Imitation for sale
The future's here today
Luciani

And all the cowls are black
On an inquisition rack
The future's here today
The future's here to stay
Luciani

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femrap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-05-05 11:00 PM
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2. No....sorry...but a very good friend of mine
who has passed used to tell me about this...he was very much into conspiracies. When I read your headline, I thought to myself....'Oh, Lon would have been in heaven with all the conspiracies of today.' But he is already in heaven....or maybe already reincarnated....

BCCI....John Kerry put pressure on that....and he never mentioned it during his campaign.

Tell me the highlights of Pope JP1....OK?
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hang a left Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-05-05 11:21 PM
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4. Well as you can tell by the title it is about the murder of JP1
He was this beautiful, humble Christian man who unwillingly became Pope John Paul the First. He wanted to revert the church back to a poor church for the poor. He wanted the change the Church's position on artificial birth control. He wanted to remove Freemasons in the heirarchy of the church. In the 33 days that he reigned he started a quiet revolution. There were many people threatened by the changes he had just begun to implement.

The book goes on to describe the 6 powerful suspects, their motives, means, and opportunity. It involves the Mafia, a Masonic Order (P2), money laundering, bank fraud, heroin trafficking, and the Vatican Bank.

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Geoff R. Casavant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-05-05 11:09 PM
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3. It's been some years since I read it
but I'm up for discussion -- I doubt I can recall enough to start any points, but if you pipe up I'll bet I can respond fairly coherently.
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hang a left Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-05-05 11:27 PM
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5. Do you remember out of the suspects who you decided was the
murderer. Or did you arrive at the conclusion that it was a conspiracy of 2 or more of them.

To jog your memory the suspects are:

Cardinal Villot
Bishop Paul Marcinkus
Cardinal Cody
Roberto Calvi
Licio Gelli
Michele Sindona
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Geoff R. Casavant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-06-05 09:51 PM
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6. Conspiracy
I think the big movers were Calvi, and a cardinal in Chicago (was that Cody?), but certainly wouldn't rule out participation by others.
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