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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-29-09 07:55 AM
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Angelina Jolie: Monogamy is Overrated
Angelina Jolie: Fidelity Isn’t Essential
By Audrey Morrison

Mon, 28 Dec 2009 16:37:24 GMT


Angelina Jolie seemingly went from Hollywood wild child to the responsible mother of six and live-in love of Brad Pitt. However the actress recently told German magazine Das Neue Magazine, via The New York Daily News, that monogamy isn’t at the core of her and Brad’s romance.

“I doubt that fidelity is absolutely essential for a relationship,” she says. “It’s worse to leave your partner and talk badly about him afterwards.”

In the past Jolie had been blamed for sleeping with Pitt while he was married to Jennifer Aniston, but she’s denied that rumor and continues to do so in this interview.

"To be intimate with a married man, when my own father cheated on my mother, is not something I could forgive," she tells the magazine. "I could not look at myself in the morning, if I did that." ...........(more)

The complete piece is at: http://www.comcast.net/entertainment/popcast/30934/angelinajoliefidelityisntessential/




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Teaser Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-29-09 08:01 AM
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1. so I've got a shot after all
.
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shadowknows69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-29-09 09:12 AM
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12. Lol. Score one for the common man!!!
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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-29-09 08:03 AM
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2. I feel sorry for Brad Pitt.
Angelina Jolie is just as horrible as i thought she was.
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Better Today Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-29-09 08:06 AM
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3. Why? Because she deals with the reality of love and relationships
in today's world rather than the pie in sky, fairytale bullpucky she's supposed to?
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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-29-09 08:18 AM
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5. Sounds to me like she is announcing her infidelity.
And fidelity is not pie in the sky. It is a foundation of trust in a relationship. Oh the tragedy of low expectations.
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iris27 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-29-09 08:37 AM
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9. Physical fidelity is not required for trust in a relationship.
Honesty is all that is required. In fact, it's the expectation of physical fidelity that more times than not leads to the destruction of trust in a relationship. I value my bond with my husband too much to let it possibly be destroyed over brief stupid flings the way so many relationships among my family and friends have been.
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MISSDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 07:48 PM
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39. It must have not happened to you yet. Just wait and
tell us how it feels to know that the love of you life has been f--king someone else and it just does not hurt your relationship. You are crazy.
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Better Today Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-29-09 01:04 PM
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19. Not in many healthy relationships. That's the church speaking to you and
through you. Fidelity is not natural in humans nor has it proven to be successful in our country for years. High divorce rates, even higher extra-marital affairs rates.

If you really believe that fidelity is the foundation of a good relationship, you simply are not paying attention to the world around you. So, I wonder, are you now and have you always been faithful to the first person you ever promised to be faithful to?
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unabelladonna Donating Member (483 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-29-09 10:17 AM
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16. she was rumored to sleep
Edited on Tue Dec-29-09 10:18 AM by unabelladonna
with men on location whether they were married or not. brad pitt is not the only one who had the honor. however, i won't judge her....none of us are perfect.
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netsurfer2 Donating Member (45 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-29-09 11:18 AM
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18. She creeps me out
Two words, crazy eyes.
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NashVegas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-31-09 10:36 PM
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33. The Warped Reality of Make-Believe Lives
Edited on Thu Dec-31-09 10:38 PM by NashVegas
Jolie had an affair with a married man, and went off adopting 3rd world babies to manipulate the press/image.
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iris27 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-29-09 08:14 AM
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4. What? Agreed-upon non-monogamy=horrible person?
Nice.

(For what it's worth, my husband and I have this agreement too...never been put to use in over 6 years of marriage, but it's there if we need it.)
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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-29-09 08:21 AM
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6. I don't get this mentality.
And sex is a great way for your husband to fall out of love with you and into love with some other person. Its an invitation to husband steal. But hey, if you want to put yourself at risk like that more power to you.
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iris27 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-29-09 08:32 AM
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7. Just because you don't get it doesn't make those who choose it horrible.
And actually, we chose it after seeing too many marriages among our family and friends end because of infidelity. We love one another too much to try to make a promise that so many end up not being able to keep, through a moment of weakness or whatever. It's the deceit that destroys so many relationships, not the act itself, so we took that out of the equation.

And BTW, it is often guilt over the deception that leads cheaters to greater emotional attachment to the person they're cheating with, because "I couldn't help it, we're so in love and so perfect for each other" instead of seeing it for the momentary fling that it is and not something worth throwing away a strong marriage over.
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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-29-09 08:36 AM
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8. I've never cheated ever.
And to me cheating is a failure of character. It shows a lack of self control and discipline.
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atreides1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-29-09 09:02 AM
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10. Well
Everyone is entitled to an opinion!

"Cheating", is based on deception. If a couple are honest, then where is the deception?

By the way who are you to pass judgement on another human being?
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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-29-09 09:08 AM
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11. Tiger Woods just sent you a big sloppy kiss.
I read that his infidelity cost his sponsors billions as their stocks fell significantly in comparison to their peers.

Of course you think he conducted himself well, but I beg to differ.
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iris27 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-29-09 07:12 PM
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31. Uh, no. Tiger was a complete asshole who violated his wife's trust and
and showed her a total lack of respect. He deceived someone to whom he promised to be monogamous.

That is a totally different animal than a couple who has agreed that "forsaking all others" will not be part of their marriage vows.

I think cheaters are scum, and will never get involved with someone who is in an ostensibly monogamous relationship.
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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-31-09 02:24 AM
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32. So if Brad Pitt got into his relationship thinking that Angelina Jolie despised cheating
then finds out she did cheat, she would be scum and he should be mad right?
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Better Today Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-29-09 01:09 PM
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20. iris27, you are smart and wise for recognizing reality and tending it
in a way that I believe will keep your relationship strong and honest which I believe is more important than the dishonest "faithfulness" most couples suffer from. Hats off to you and your hubby.
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MISSDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-19-10 07:52 PM
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40. And Ayn Rand would be so proud of you both.
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NashVegas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-31-09 10:41 PM
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34. You Think?
Something tells me Angie wouldn't give two shits if Brad slept with an unknown starlet - or George Clooney, for that matter - but I betcha 10:1 if he started screwing someone like Scarlett Johansson, now, she'd go postal.
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midnight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-29-09 10:18 AM
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17. Iris, clearly your husband knows that if he wants sex with other women it will
not end your relationship, so I can't imagine it is even an issue he would discuss then. But, medically speaking, I'm concerned over transfer of sexually transmitted diseases. Sure, if that emotional bond is not going to break, and that psychological bond is going to stand up, you would be almost crazy to allow deadly diseases to come between the two of you. It is a killer.
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Better Today Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-29-09 01:13 PM
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21. So you think pretending to be faithful as most men and women pretend at
puts her at less risk? Are you daft? By leaving things in the dark, unmentionable realms of a relationship, she would be much more likely to have concerns than if they have the honesty and openness that assures she knows when or if extra personal protections are required on her side.

I'm thinking about Tiger Wood's wife as an example. Perhaps if they had an open and honest relationship, she wouldn't now have to wonder how many diseases he might have infected her with.
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iris27 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-29-09 07:02 PM
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29. What good did the expectation of fidelity do for my mother when
my father brought home an STD from under-the-radar fun? I can't speak for anyone else's relationship, but in mine, with everything being above-board, emotional, psychological, and yes, medical implications are discussed... a LOT. We have agreed-upon standards of safer sex. To violate those would be a breach of trust and would show disrespect in a way I could never do to my partner. Is it perfect? No. But I'm guessing it's better than my parents' method.

My theory is that it's like abstinence-only vs. comprehensive sex ed...by just saying "don't do it don't do it don't do it", when it happens, kids are much less likely to use protection. I'm guessing the same probably happens when people cheat who'd had every intention of being faithful until they were in the moment.
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lumberjack_jeff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-23-10 09:41 PM
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42. I need to bookmark this for the most ridiculous statement file.
There are far worse things to be than Brad Pitt.
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shadowknows69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-29-09 09:12 AM
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13. If Brangelina has to cheat on each other what hope do the rest of us have?
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Better Today Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-29-09 01:14 PM
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22. It's not cheating when both parties agree to the rules.
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shadowknows69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-29-09 01:38 PM
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24. True that. I'm actually familiar with that concept. I've said too much.
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darkstar3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-29-09 06:55 PM
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27. +1
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NashVegas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-31-09 10:43 PM
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35. Fair Enough
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BootinUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-29-09 09:18 AM
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14. Her statements are contradictory
no?
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darkstar3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-29-09 07:00 PM
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28. Not really,
since "cheating" is more about the dishonesty involved in act of sleeping with someone else while involved in a strictly monogamous relationship.

I think what she's saying is that her father "cheated" on her mother by joining in a monogamous relationship and then unilaterally breaking it, while she doesn't consider her strong relationship with Brad to be monogamous.

no?
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eilen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-29-09 09:24 AM
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15. AJ needs to walk the talk
see how she feels about the monogamy stuff next time she is 8 months preggers and Brad pulls a Tiger. I also don't know if she would feel the same way if she were not Angelina Jolie, bigtime movie starlet with the army of domestics to care for her growing family. She has a freedom most women with many small children don't have due to her big pile of money. She seems to believe she is more "evolved" but in the same interview states she would never have a sexual relationship with a married person. So, it follows she believes that once married, no sex outside marriage. Their prenup will be a doorstop.
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Better Today Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-29-09 01:18 PM
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23. Her stances are perfectly sensible. And I'm sure she isn't
immature or regressive enough to get her feelings hurt if her boyfriend were to step out to have sex with someone else when she pregnant or otherwise. If she does, then she's a hypocrit, but I don't see any evidence that is what would happen, just the opposite actually. Seems she is more than willing to accept certain realities of life, most religiously hogtied folks just can't deal with.
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eilen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-29-09 03:14 PM
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25. I'm not Christian, nor do I ascribe to any other religion relating to the Bible
however I have a fetish about being honorable and keeping integrity in my relationships. I believe she is disingenous. Perhaps Mr. Pitt can test those assertions. I understand she is a self-described control freak.
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Better Today Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-29-09 03:47 PM
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26. You don't have to be a religious person to be trapped in the
social ideologies that they force on their communities, whether that be christian, islam, judeism, or whatever. People like Angelina, myself, and at least one other poster on here, simply refuse to incorporate that aspect of social pressure into the reality based choices we make about relationships.
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darkstar3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-29-09 07:11 PM
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30. See #28.
Also, Brad could never "pull a Tiger" because Brad and Angelina never agreed to a monogamous relationship, while Tiger did and broke that promise.
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miyazaki Donating Member (446 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-05-10 09:12 AM
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36. she could never be faithful to any man, she loves women too much.
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stray cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-06-10 07:21 PM
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37. Did she sleep with Tiger too?
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shadowknows69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-11-10 06:18 PM
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38. k
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mackerel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-21-10 02:32 AM
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41. Angelina Jolie is overated
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mackerel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-24-10 02:07 PM
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43. Anyway they broke up and before they
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