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groovedaddy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-14-09 11:49 AM
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Out-of-Wedlock Birthrates Are Soaring, U.S. Reports
(Directly related to Bush policies, no less - gd)

WASHINGTON — Unmarried mothers gave birth to 4 out of every 10 babies born in the United States in 2007, a share that is increasing rapidly both here and abroad, according to government figures released Wednesday.

Before 1970, most unmarried mothers were teenagers. But in recent years the birthrate among unmarried women in their 20s and 30s has soared — rising 34 percent since 2002, for example, in women ages 30 to 34. In 2007, women in their 20s had 60 percent of all babies born out of wedlock, teenagers had 23 percent and women 30 and older had 17 percent.

Much of the increase in unmarried births has occurred among parents who are living together but are not married, cohabitation arrangements that tend to be less stable than marriages, studies show.

The pattern has been particularly pronounced among Hispanic women, climbing 20 percent from 2002 to 2006, the most recent year for which racial breakdowns are available. Eleven percent of unmarried Hispanic women had a baby in 2006, compared with 7 percent of unmarried black women and 3 percent of unmarried white women, according to government data drawn from birth certificates.

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/05/13/health/13mothers.html?ref=health
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glowing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-14-09 11:53 AM
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1. Not to be rude, but the only way to get some adequate healthcare coverage
is to go unmarried. most 20 somethings don't have a lot of access. If you are a poor single momma, you get medicare, medicaid, wic, food stamps, and welfare when you are on materniy leave. If you are married your are rather screwed if you don't have major benefits from your job.. and what jobs have anything good for the young and starting out?
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groovedaddy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-14-09 11:57 AM
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2. Probably true. n.t
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jody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-14-09 12:05 PM
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3. Do you have a credible source showing "20 somethings" rationally make such decisions before getting
pregnant?

Is that the type of thinking that Kathryn Edin and Maria Kefalas discuss in their book "Promises I Can Keep: Why Poor Women Put Motherhood Before Marriage"?
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glowing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-14-09 01:07 PM
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5. How many parents "plan" for a child. I'm sure most 20 somethings are
not looking to get knocked up, but they remain marriage free for the benefits... some marry after the baby is born.. some never do. but many young women these days don't use precautions.. 8 yrs of non-education and mis direction because of pugs.. its just sad responsibility is so flim flam.
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jody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-14-09 01:11 PM
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7. Your post has support in the book by Edin/Kefalas I cited. n/t
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-14-09 12:07 PM
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4. Not exactly
Pregnant women qualify for health coverage regardless of their marital status and you can be working as well. It's part of what was accomplished with welfare reform and SCHIP.

Actually young people just don't seem to want to get married because it's easier to end the relationship and most relationships do end. I don't know why they'll have a child with someone they won't marry, but I see it all the time. They live together, decide to have a baby, but will not get married. Weird to me.

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glowing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-14-09 01:09 PM
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6. bull shit.. my husband alone makes too much to allow us to qualify for
Edited on Thu May-14-09 01:32 PM by glowing
anything other than medicaid if I was preggo.. no extra help for food or anything. I'd literally have to pop and the next day be at work. If we were non-married, I'd get those things.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-14-09 01:26 PM
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8. "health coverage" = Medicaid
That's exactly what I said. Women are not avoiding marriage for health benefits anymore.

And the other benefits aren't enough to get pregnant over, never were.

A large number of the young people I see just do not want to get married. They have no faith in the institution or in people to keep the vows anyway. They're not going to get married just to give a baby a name either. There isn't as much of a plus side.
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glowing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-14-09 01:33 PM
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9. Yes, young makes more sense as "non-commital". Shoot most of their
parents couldn't make it.. why go thru the messy part of seperation.. just throw the shit out on the lawn and wash your hands.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-14-09 01:39 PM
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10. I see it happen a lot
There are certainly young people who can't afford to get married. But that seemed more the case 15 years ago or so, then now.

My kids are in their 20's and married or not, them and their friends just do not have that "stick to the bitter end" thing that I think existed in the past. My son's girlfriend has 2 pre-teen kids, a good job, and they decided to have a baby. She won't marry him though. I don't get it. They're not the only ones around here that I see with that attitude.
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glowing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-14-09 01:49 PM
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11. I married.. then again my parents have still lasted for 30 yrs. so, I suppose
my sister and I seeing it work allowed us to not look at it so horribly and marry.. then again my hubby thinks you have 10 yrs and its over. with all the stress, its no wonder.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-14-09 02:08 PM
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12. My daughter married
Had two kids, was living the dream... then her husband had an affair in December. They were together 7 years, married 5.

The son's girlfriend has had two divorces, the second one molested her daughter.

Maybe part of it is that these things aren't hidden anymore, women are able to leave without as much economic hardship or social stigma.

I don't know, but I don't think the current "thinking" as far as how we're teaching reproductive responsibility in high school is on the right track. Young men want to have a family too and you can't have them getting women pregnant all over the place because they keep thinking this is "the one", which I also see and it's crazy.

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bliss_eternal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-12-09 09:55 PM
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13. "out of wedlock...?"
that term makes my eyes and ears bleed.

:puke:
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Azalea Donating Member (101 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-11-09 03:54 PM
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14. OOW
is a sucky terminology, it seems to infer that marriage is some sort of punishment or prison (wedlock) and that is a bad way of thinking of marriage in a country where no one can force you to exchange vows.

And just as a woman has an inherent right to abort, she also has a right to give birth, even when she isn't married. Why is that weird to anyone?
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Glory89fan Donating Member (51 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-25-09 07:41 PM
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15. The abstinence-only education is working out great
Thanks a lot Dubya.
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