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tonysam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-03-10 10:38 AM
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Following a good example: Charter schools are a magnet for teachers
Edited on Mon May-03-10 10:39 AM by tonysam
I haven't had a good laugh in years. It figures some moron editorial writer hasn’t a clue about teachers or education.

The ONLY reason teachers “flock” to charter schools, unless those are charter schools “sponsored” by school districts which in effect means these teachers are still district/state employees as they are in Nevada (and get their regular pay), is that they can’t find work in regular public schools. It’s the same situation as people who teach in private schools.

In the case of private schools, since teachers make so much less on the average than those in public schools, to survive they either have to have a working spouse or else they must juggle other jobs, as yours truly did when working for a private school ten years ago.

It's not just parents and students flocking to high-quality charter schools like desert nomads to a fresh-water stream.

It's teachers - who in ever greater numbers crave learning environments where there's no union between them and their principal, or them and their kids.

Even though in these very same schools there are longer hours and school years. Teachers do not get traditional pensions, nor are there written-in-the-contract protections against firing. And principals can - gasp! - tell you what to do.

Two developments made the trend impressively clear. First, teachers at a KIPP charter school in Brooklyn, who voted last year to join the United Federation of Teachers, want to cast off the union - and start dealing directly with their bosses again.



Did Broad or Gates or Bloomberg write this garbage?

NY Daily News
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Tansy_Gold Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-03-10 10:43 AM
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1. Yeah right. "No union. . ."
as in

No union protecting their pay and benefits. Teachers definitely don't want THAT. :sarcasm:

I've never met a teacher yet who felt their union stood between them and the principal, the parents, or the kids.

I call pure bullshit on this one.


Tansy Gold, not a teacher but a proud supporter of teachers and fully-funded PUBLIC EDUCATION
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-03-10 11:50 AM
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3. What you said
:toast:
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mbperrin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-03-10 11:59 AM
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4. Thanks and k&r
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paulsby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-03-10 11:30 AM
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2. rubbish
"is that they can’t find work in regular public schools. It’s the same situation as people who teach in private schools."

you claim that people only work in private schools because they can't find work in public schools? seriously?

do you KNOW any private school teachers? i do. and while there are certainly SOME who couldn't find a job in public schools, there are plenty others who vastly prefer the private school they work at to the public school system in their area.

you are insulting private school teachers, counterfactually, but i guess that's ok since they aren't public school teachers, so all's fair.

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mzteris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-03-10 03:43 PM
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5. mostly she's insulting the approximately
(at a very conservative minimum guess of) 50,000 - 100,000 Charter public school teachers out there.

and in my experience the teachers my son has had at all of his charter public schools were not only highly qualified, but good teachers, and VERY happy to be in the schools that they were in. . .

Some people just can't fathom other people being happy about anything, ya know? ;)


Although she is right, some "teachers" can't get a job . . . anywhere.
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