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groovedaddy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-10 01:14 PM
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The Moral Life of Babies
Not long ago, a team of researchers watched a 1-year-old boy take justice into his own hands. The boy had just seen a puppet show in which one puppet played with a ball while interacting with two other puppets. The center puppet would slide the ball to the puppet on the right, who would pass it back. And the center puppet would slide the ball to the puppet on the left . . . who would run away with it. Then the two puppets on the ends were brought down from the stage and set before the toddler. Each was placed next to a pile of treats. At this point, the toddler was asked to take a treat away from one puppet. Like most children in this situation, the boy took it from the pile of the “naughty” one. But this punishment wasn’t enough — he then leaned over and smacked the puppet in the head.

This incident occurred in one of several psychology studies that I have been involved with at the Infant Cognition Center at Yale University in collaboration with my colleague (and wife), Karen Wynn, who runs the lab, and a graduate student, Kiley Hamlin, who is the lead author of the studies. We are one of a handful of research teams around the world exploring the moral life of babies.

Like many scientists and humanists, I have long been fascinated by the capacities and inclinations of babies and children. The mental life of young humans not only is an interesting topic in its own right; it also raises — and can help answer — fundamental questions of philosophy and psychology, including how biological evolution and cultural experience conspire to shape human nature. In graduate school, I studied early language development and later moved on to fairly traditional topics in cognitive development, like how we come to understand the minds of other people — what they know, want and experience.

But the current work I’m involved in, on baby morality, might seem like a perverse and misguided next step. Why would anyone even entertain the thought of babies as moral beings? From Sigmund Freud to Jean Piaget to Lawrence Kohlberg, psychologists have long argued that we begin life as amoral animals. One important task of society, particularly of parents, is to turn babies into civilized beings — social creatures who can experience empathy, guilt and shame; who can override selfish impulses in the name of higher principles; and who will respond with outrage to unfairness and injustice. Many parents and educators would endorse a view of infants and toddlers close to that of a recent Onion headline: “New Study Reveals Most Children Unrepentant Sociopaths.” If children enter the world already equipped with moral notions, why is it that we have to work so hard to humanize them?

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/05/09/magazine/09babies-t.html?th&emc=th
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-10 01:16 PM
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1. That might be how to identify sociopaths
at an early enough age to make a difference, the sociopaths wouldn't demonstrate a consistent contempt for the "naughty" puppet.
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groovedaddy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-10 01:24 PM
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2. I read sometime back about a program for violent youth offenders. They reenact the violent act
a particular offended committed (acted out, not for real!) but this time the offender is placed in the role of the victim. The person who started this program said that (if I remember correctly) about 90% of the participants would break down crying as they played the victim role. He also claimed that those in this group were very unlikely to commit another violent act on someone. The remaining 10% had no reaction whatsoever. He tagged them as sociopaths and said they should be placed in prison and never let out!
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rfranklin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-10 01:26 PM
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3. Unfortunately, they usually become Republicans...
Lack of ethics...check. Lack of empathy...check. Contempt for those they deem weaker than themselves...check. Yep, Republicans.
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tonysam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-10 02:31 PM
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7. Not necessarily Republicans but often school principals. n/t
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Boudica the Lyoness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-10 01:30 PM
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4. Freud was so wrong.
Anybody who has raised children know they don't start out amoral. Also as a cattle rancher and wild mustang trainer, I know for a fact animals are not amoral. The situations I have found myself in where a cow, bull or frightened horse could have taken me out but choose a 'moral' route instead. I've had a cow and also a horse use their body to protect me...so many stories I could tell. Was this dick head Freud ever around animals?

The more I'm around animals the less I like human nature.
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sailor65 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-10 01:31 PM
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5. They aren't moral, they're evil
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mzteris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-10 01:35 PM
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6. I think the kid was probablycopying
how he'd been "disciplined" -

WHACK! for doing something "wrong".

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BridgeTheGap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-13-10 12:43 PM
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8. I don't believe in "tabla rosa"...but then, I'm a buddhist...n.t
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