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MNBrewer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-23-11 12:35 PM
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Extremely disturbing, brutal attack on a transgendered person in a McDonald's
NOTE: The video associated with this story is brutal. I'm sorry I watched it, but at least I know how brutal 14-year old "girls" can be.

<http://www.towleroad.com/2011/04/transgender.html>

Had I been there with some sort of weapon (ex. broom handle) I can imagine myself doing serious, lasting damage to the perpetrators of this crime. I'm normally a pretty gentle guy, but look out when I see red.
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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-23-11 12:45 PM
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1. One of the most disturbing videos I've ever seen. The employees stood around and cheered the attack.
The guy who filmed the attack on his cell phone urges the girls to flee from the police. One older woman tried to help the victim and got punched in the face by the assailants. The store manager wanders around ineffectually.

This video makes humanity look bad. That's all I can say.
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MNBrewer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-23-11 12:48 PM
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2. Haven't a number of these attacks occurred in McD's lately?
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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-23-11 12:56 PM
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3. Was there an attack outside McD in NYC West Village against a gay man?
That didn't happen inside and didn't involve any employees, though. There was something bizarre down in Florida recently at a fast food place.
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EmmettKelly Donating Member (105 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-23-11 12:59 PM
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4. Seems that way, and here's why I wouldn't step in. Sorry, not
worth my getting shot over it.

A DAD-of-four who split up a fight in a McDonald’s was shot dead moments after being told he wouldn’t see the morning.

Raymond Mitchell, 34, had only popped into the restaurant to buy a hot chocolate.

But he apparently caused offence after splitting up two men fighting in the queue.



http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/top-stories/2011/04/21/dad-who-split-up-fight-in-mcdonald-s-shot-dead-115875-23075797/
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MNBrewer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-23-11 01:02 PM
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6. I feel sorry for you
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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-23-11 01:05 PM
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7. There's a lot of space between "not stepping in" and encouraging the violence.
The employee who filmed the attack while urging on the attackers could have used his cell phone to call the police, for instance.

I'm glad that he did film this, though. The film and his bigoted commentary are very instructive, particularly to those who keep insisting that GLBTQ people have nothing to worry about.
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pnwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-23-11 01:00 PM
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5. I love
the elderly woman who jumped in to try to help her. She's the light in this horrible video.
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Bluenorthwest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-23-11 01:07 PM
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8. When the McClurkins of this world urge war upon minorities they
claim are not Sanctified or whatever nonsensical hate speech, this is what they are calling for. Those who defend and employ 'ministers' who urge maltreatment of GLBT people are the cause of such attacks, they are covered in guilt for each of these acts of violence. McClurkin, in NY, tells his followers to 'take off the gloves, this is war!'. And here you have that war. God is in the mix, one man, one woman, Sanctified, hallelujah, defend that Sacrament!
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ruggerson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-11 09:25 AM
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19. + 100
well said.
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RKP5637 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-11 10:24 AM
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28. He can take his god and flush it down the toilet. n/t
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JackBeck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-23-11 01:23 PM
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9. If you feel the urge to re-post this video elsewhere
I kindly ask that you place a *trigger warning* in the headline, so that we respect those of us who are the survivors of violent attacks, whether they be domestic violence or hate crimes.
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MNBrewer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-23-11 01:43 PM
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11. Out of curiosity
Is including "NOTE: The video associated with this story is brutal" in the OP insufficient? Nothing was to be seen by clicking into the thread.

Viewing the video required clicking into the thread, then clicking into the link to another website, then clicking the video.
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JackBeck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-23-11 01:49 PM
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12. "If you feel the urge to re-post this video elsewhere"
Edited on Sat Apr-23-11 01:52 PM by JackBeck
On edit: Using the universal 'you' in my post.
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queerart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-23-11 01:41 PM
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10. To Film It.....
Even though I am glad the film/MPEG4 stands as a testament to what happened....


What sick piece of sewer dwelling shit has the first thought, "Hey, I Should Video This"......


... and their defense will be "I wanted to show what the perpetrators did".... when they are roasted for their sick ass behavior.....


Some will hate you to your face... others will smile, while they hate you behind your back..... but never confuse the fact, that both groups despise you with equal virulence...


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DeadEyeDyck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-11 01:09 AM
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17. most reporters feel that way...
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queerart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-11 07:35 AM
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18. I'm Not Quite Clear What You Are Saying.....

Are you saying that the McDonalds employee who filmed the attack on his cell phone, and who told the other sewer dwelling pieces of shit perpetrators to leave before the police showed up was in fact an undercover reporter..... who was doing a secret story about attacks on transgendered folks in the city... while pretending to to serve big macs to the public while gathering information on his break out story so he could become a full time reporter like Jimmy Olsen?


Do you mean that same double secret agent squirrel reporter who was just fired from McDonalds for filming an attack on another human, and doing nothing to help the victim, while encouraging the attackers to flee so as to avoid arrest?


http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/maryland/bs-md-mcdonalds-video-20110423,0,1302714.story



Ahhhh... yes indeed, that reporter..... Oh my..... the misunderstood life of a super secret, double pinky, undercover, teen beat, Nancy Drew reporter......


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DeadEyeDyck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-11 02:58 PM
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20. How did you read that into my post???
I was simply pointing out how so many believe that they have no civic duty to get involved and s

some reporters believe they are "above the story" and are there to record and report and not inject themselves in anyway. I doubt very much that that scum was a reporter. I don't doubt that he felt any sense of humanity to come to the assistance of this poor girl.

By the way, the police have verified that she was truly female and that the "single" report that she was a transgendered person was just an attempt to justify the fight.
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horsehead Donating Member (14 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-11 05:23 PM
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22. Oh really?
"By the way, the police have verified that she was truly female and that the "single" report that she was a transgendered person was just an attempt to justify the fight."

Could you supply a source for that statement? Because I can't seem to find anything like that.
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DeadEyeDyck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-11 10:39 PM
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26. You know, I rarely come into this forum because of the tone
I always feel like everyone here is ready to pick a fight. Use one wrong phrase or idiom and you are accosted with the "what do you mean by that" attack!! Talk about a chip on the shoulder!! Gays ask for tolerance and acceptance but offer little.

I come from an unusual background and maybe it gave me a little thicker, albiet darker skin. My Dad is black and met Mom in while stationed in Germany. Sis and I are therefore German-American and both born in Germany. I was mostly educated there before we moved stateside so I have a stronge German accent. My father retired from the Army (WO5 Green Beret) and became very conservative. My Mom went from communist to socialist to democrate to republican and is not an officer in a local tea-party. How is that for a diverese upbringing?
What it taught me was to respect everyone. Maybe that explains why I expect to dawn the hood for my doctoral in Interbational Comms.

I have know gay family members that I know of and guess some of my friends are gay but it is the least thing of interest in our discussions so forgive me if I stubble and offend someone. It is never intentional.
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horsehead Donating Member (14 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-11 02:59 PM
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30. Huh?
All I asked was for you to back up your claim.
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DeadEyeDyck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-11 07:16 PM
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31. I was actually replying to Jack Beck's reply...sorry to you
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JackBeck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-11 06:04 PM
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23. 1) The survivor of the attack, Chrissy Lee Polis, is a trans woman.
Edited on Sun Apr-24-11 06:04 PM by JackBeck
Here is a video of her talking about the attack: http://www.towleroad.com/2011/04/transgender-woman.html

2) Trans women are, in fact, 'truly female.'

3) Most transgender people do not like to be referred to as 'transgendered', since it implies that they have completed sex reassignment therapy. Most transgender people will never complete full SRT due to how expensive the process is and most insurance still does not cover the entire cost.
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vim876 Donating Member (268 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-23-11 02:08 PM
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13. What is wrong with people?
This makes me so mad. I typed out a few comments on this, but deleted each one after realizing how completely inadequate they were at expressing my confusion, disappointment, and rage. I hope these people go to jail for a very very long time.
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Zorra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-23-11 05:09 PM
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14. I did the same thing.
Over and over until I gave up.

Our society is based on the Judeo-Christian tradition.

That is what is wrong with people.
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closeupready Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-23-11 06:06 PM
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16. People? Who, the two who attacked her?
Do we know they are people?
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closeupready Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-23-11 06:05 PM
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15. That video is so infuriating, it scares me to think how I would have responded.
Can hardly come up with the words.
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RKP5637 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-11 10:29 AM
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29. I understand more each day why some people want concealed weapons. I'm not a
gun type person, but I really do understand Pink Pistols and others wanting weapons.
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RetiredTrotskyite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-11 04:43 PM
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21. Just Horrendous
Unbelievable that people can be so hateful in this day and age. Oh wait...they probably think they're "good Kee-ristians".
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-11 02:36 PM
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24. Totally disgusting!
So glad those two IGNORANT fools were charged.
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dickthegrouch Donating Member (838 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-11 08:50 PM
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25. Change.org has a petition
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RKP5637 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-11 10:22 AM
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27. Thanks!!! n/t
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