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SemiCharmedQuark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-02-09 10:37 PM
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Do people who say they speak "truth to power" ever actually speak "truth to power"?
It seems 9 times out of 10, people using this phrase are praising some nutjob conspiracy theory or fringe explanation.
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SDuderstadt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-02-09 11:34 PM
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1. Bullseye, SCQ! n/t
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Kind of Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-02-09 11:57 PM
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2. Sorry, Y'all wrong place to post.
Edited on Mon Nov-02-09 11:58 PM by Kind of Blue
Thought I was in another forum.
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-03-09 12:18 AM
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3. It's called "delusions of persecution".
It's a symptom of paranoid schizophrenia.
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salvorhardin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-03-09 02:52 AM
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4. Sometimes
Edited on Tue Nov-03-09 02:55 AM by salvorhardin
The saps from We Are Change try their best to accost the people they think engineered or were part of their imagined cover-up of 9-11. The results are usually rather sad and just illustrate that the word 'truth' doesn't really mean the same as everyone else uses it. Here they confront Richard Ben-Veniste: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U4R9TkOSEW8
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LeftishBrit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-03-09 05:20 AM
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5. Sometimes. The phrase actually has an honourable history...
but it is often misused as 'supporting conspiracy theories or other out-of-the-mainstream theories, whether on good grounds or not'. With the implication that the only reason why not everyone accepts these theories is because 'power' is 'suppressing' them. Indeed it is sometimes used basically to mean 'saying something that happens to irritate some other anonymous people on a message board': "I am speaking truth to power, and you are trying to SUPPRESS me!"

I was struck a year or two ago by someone commenting on Hugo Chavez: "Chavez speaks truth to power!" Whether one likes or agrees with Chavez or not, surely he cannot be described as 'speaking truth to power' in the original sense. As his country's president, he *is* power.
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-03-09 01:43 PM
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6. No, it's exactly the same as claiming to be rich or Christian.
You can be sure the claimant is none of those things. In the latter case, you're wise to check to make sure your own wallet hasn't been lifted as you sprint for an exit.
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Anarcho-Socialist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-04-09 12:39 AM
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7. Indeed
"truth to power" has been reduced to a cliché that its usage is normally restricts to just tinfoilers.

Now behold my 9/11 YouTube video in which lossy video artifacts are "PROOF!"
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salvorhardin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-04-09 01:43 AM
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8. Does your video have mysterious shadows?
Because if it does, I'm pretty sure I could commit to that. Especially if there's dark, foreboding music backing your soundtrack.
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realisticphish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-04-09 05:11 AM
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9. and maybe
a loud noise when you cut to each scene; like a law and order "doink doink" kind of sound
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laconicsax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-05-09 10:50 PM
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10. Did I use it correctly here?
Edited on Thu Nov-05-09 10:50 PM by laconicsax
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SemiCharmedQuark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-06-09 10:25 AM
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12. Yes! BTW, how long before people start saying it was the flu vaccine that made him murder 12 people
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TZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-06-09 11:45 AM
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13. Naw he was a mental health professional
It'll be anti-depressants made him do it! Because according to DU, its ALWAYS the medication that makes the rampage shooter go nuts...:banghead:
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laconicsax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-06-09 01:23 PM
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14. Only if the meds have thimerosal
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TZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-06-09 02:27 PM
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15. No it must be SSRI's!
Because we all know they cause violent behavior. ARRRGH. I knew that wouldn't take long.
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SemiCharmedQuark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-06-09 07:13 PM
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16. There should be a SS&P pool to bet what will get the blame
Edited on Fri Nov-06-09 07:13 PM by SemiCharmedQuark
Because for everyone incident, it is always the fault of those egghead scientists, right?
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laconicsax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-06-09 07:28 PM
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17. Science caused the Holocaust
Hitler was just caught up in scientific dogma.
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jberryhill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-06-09 02:05 AM
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11. More like speaking gibberish to apathy most often.....
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Orrex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-09-09 08:12 AM
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18. Or maybe someone from Ohio's 10th Congressional District
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