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DavidDvorkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-05-07 03:06 PM
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Rasmussen daily poll is getting me down
I know it's early yet, and a national poll doesn't mean that much anyway. Still, that rise a week or so ago really encouraged me, but now it's evaporated.

I'm hoping to see an effect from the big union endorsements, maybe this week.
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DavidDvorkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 11:30 AM
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1. And now it's starting to get me up again
Not that it's wise to tie one's upness or downness to a political poll, but it's hard not to.
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Catchawave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 08:24 PM
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2. Here's a little poll that made me smile:
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DavidDvorkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 08:39 PM
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3. Very nice, indeed
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lisainmilo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 10:31 AM
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110. Yes Yes....Very Nice
He is the real deal for change in this country....Go John Go!
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DavidDvorkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-12-07 10:20 AM
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4. And up a bit more again
If the current trend continues, brightness will fill the world.
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Catchawave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-12-07 08:41 PM
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5. How sweet :)
I keep the faith that he was still in single digits this time around Sept '03 :D
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DavidDvorkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-13-07 02:17 PM
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6. Graph
Unable to stop fussing with it, I put the Rasmussen daily numbers into a spreadsheet and generated an encouraging graph:


... Which I don't know how to paste in here. I guess I've only used URLs before. Sigh.
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DavidDvorkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-17-07 08:14 PM
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13. Damn. Not what was I hoping to see.
No bump of the speech, I guess. Not yet, anyway.
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Catchawave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 12:39 PM
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10. Keep your eye on the Ras Favorables.....
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DavidDvorkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 12:49 PM
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11. Interesting!
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DavidDvorkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-13-07 05:15 PM
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7. Graph of the poll
Here's the current Rasmussen daily poll situation:


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DavidDvorkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 10:40 AM
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8. Not what I was hoping to see today
The 9/14 update.
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Catchawave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 12:32 PM
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9. I left a couple of comments for you :)
Thanks for posting those, it's like watching a horse race. I'm not worried at all, heck Kerry was less than 10% in Sept '03.
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DavidDvorkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 04:06 PM
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12. Thanks for those
My hope is that the graph will show an overall steady improvement, and those strange Edward haters and dismissers in GDPolitics won't be able to ignore it.

Maybe I'll add a post to the thread every day, commenting on the latest numbers, just to make sure that people keep looking at the graph. Not only do I want more people to pay attention to John E., as opposed to Hillary! and Obama!! I also want the discussion of his candidacy to be factual and reasonably objective, instead of weirdly emotional as it now is over there.
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DavidDvorkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-18-07 07:30 PM
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14. Slight improvement - 9/18
No change for Clinton or Obama. One point uptick for Edwards.

Over the long term, what's strikes me is that there really hasn't been much for any of the three.
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DavidDvorkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-19-07 10:45 AM
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15. 9/19/07 - Steady as she goes
I'm surprised by the lack of change. Opinions are strong here, as we all know, but is the country as a whole not paying that much attention yet?
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Catchawave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-19-07 06:55 PM
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16. Is your OP graph updating automatically ?
Very kewl :hi:
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Catchawave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-19-07 06:58 PM
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17. d'oh me....your #7 post is updating automatically ?
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DavidDvorkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-19-07 09:10 PM
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18. In effect. Manually automatically.
I have to update the graph at that URL (which is on my Web site), but once I do that, the new version shows up automatically when you open Post #7.

I guess the DU Web server grabs the image at that URL when it creates the HTML page to send to your browser. Or so I deduce.
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DavidDvorkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 08:09 PM
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19. 9/20/07 - Really stable
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DavidDvorkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-21-07 09:49 AM
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20. 9/21/07 - Ugh
Long term, the three of them are bouncing around in a narrow range. Short term, ugh.
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DavidDvorkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-21-07 04:27 PM
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21. Now with exciting 3-day rolling averages!
To smooth the curves out and maybe show trends more clearly.
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DavidDvorkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-21-07 08:05 PM
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22. Even spiffier now
Ever spiffier! Greater spiffiness on a daily basis! Until eventually the graph attains a level of spiffishism that was heretofore only seen in dreams!

At least, until the next spiffishness iteration.

Last weekend, someone posted snarkily somewhere on DU that Edwards supporters only post poll numbers when they're favorable. Harrumph, I say. And harrumph again. I post these daily. But not on weekends. Rasmussen seems to post all their weekend numbers on Monday, not during the actual weekend. So I won't be able to update this until some time on Monday evening. That update will contain three days' worth of numbers.

Harrumph.
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DavidDvorkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-24-07 07:37 PM
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26. 9/24/07 - Added something to the graph
I added a line for the total of the three candidates shown. I thought it would be interesting to show how close the three of them combined are to 100% of the total.
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DavidDvorkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-25-07 11:23 AM
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27. 9/25/07 - Edwards up today
Edited on Tue Sep-25-07 11:28 AM by DavidD
Clinton steady, Obama down. All those movement are slight, as they all have been from the start. Since the lines on the graph are three-day rolling averages, small daily changes don't have a large, visible effect unless they're maintained.

I can't decide if I should leave the total line on there. It's interesting, and it does show how little the remaining candidates pull compared to the top three. However, including it flattens the lines for the three candidates and makes it harder to see what trends there are in their lines.

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DavidDvorkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 10:39 AM
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29. 9/26/07 - Edwards and Clinton holding, Obama dropping
In the daily numbers. Nothing dramatic or long-term enough to show up strikingly in the three-day rolling averages yet.

Following rinsd's excellent suggestion, I replaced the Total line with Others. That eliminated the flattening effect while still making it possible to track the status of the other candidates as a group.


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DavidDvorkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-27-07 10:26 AM
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30. 9/27/07 - Clinton slightly down, Obama up, Edwards down
But still no real long-term trends. I thought doing this graph would be exciting, but not only is it the opposite of encouraging for an Edwards supporter, it's also surprisingly boring. Perhaps it's true that most voters still aren't paying a lot of attention. Or that their minds are pretty firmly made up. For now, anyway.

Rasmussen doesn't say when the daily numbers were collected. The numbers dated 9/27 obviously are from 9/26 at the latest, and maybe from 9/25 or 9/24. That makes it hard to know when to look for an effect, if any, from a particular event, such as a debate or an announcement.


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DavidDvorkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 10:46 AM
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31. 9/28/07 - Clinton and Obama slightly down, Edwards steady
The next update, on Monday, will include three new daily numbers (Saturday, Sunday, Monday), so maybe it will show a dramatic, startling, astonishing change! But probably not.

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Catchawave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 11:53 AM
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32. Looks like Obama's in a free fall ?
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DavidDvorkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 12:02 PM
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33. It's actually beginning to look that way
It will be frustrating to have to wait for three days for the next set of numbers, but those numbers might confirm the Obama drop.
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DavidDvorkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-01-07 10:49 AM
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37. Clinton up, Obama unchanged, Edwards up slightly
44%, 22%, 15% respectively.

I'll update the graph tonight. I just noticed on the Rasmussen page that the daily numbers are actually four-day rolling averages. Duh. So my three-day averages aren't meaningful, and I'll switch the graph back to what Rasmussen calls the daily numbers.
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DavidDvorkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-01-07 09:02 PM
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38. 10/1/07 - Overall, no real change
Obama may be trending slowly down, in the long term, but it's hard to see anything happening.

Note that these are the actual Rasmussen numbers, because those are already four-day rolling averages.
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DavidDvorkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-02-07 09:15 PM
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39. 10/2/07 - Clinton rising at Obama's expense?
Edwards is staying fairly steady (if too low, sob). Long term, Clinton seems to be rising while Obama declines.

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Catchawave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-03-07 08:09 AM
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40. December '03 - Dean 43%/Kerry 12%
Keep the faith :hi:
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DavidDvorkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-03-07 08:19 AM
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41. Kewl!
I fiddled around with adding trendlines to the chart, but that didn't really show much. However, the trendlines did show Clinton and Edwards steady and Obama slowly declining, which is what the graph looks like to the eye.

Maybe it really is still name recognition at this early point.
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DavidDvorkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-03-07 03:46 PM
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42. 10/3/07 - Holding pattern
How many different ways can I come up with to say that nothing much has changed?

Long-term, it begins to look like Clinton and Edwards are taking support from Obama.

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DavidDvorkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-04-07 07:37 PM
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43. 10/4/07 - Obama up, Clinton and Edwards down
But all three are still bouncing around within fairly narrow limits.

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Catchawave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-04-07 09:26 PM
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44. Here ya go David.....
http://rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/behind_the_horse_race_numbers_edwards_strongest_democrat_in_general_election_match_ups

Strongest Democrat in General Election Match-ups
A Commentary by Douglas Schoen
Thursday, October 04, 2007
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The most recent Rasmussen Reports data show that all of the most likely Democratic nominees lead their strongest prospective opponents. At this point John Edwards appears to be strongest in individual match-ups leading Giuliani by 9%, Thompson by 10%, and Romney by 11%.

Hillary Clinton holds almost as big a lead, but falls just short of Edwards' margin. She leads Giuliani by 5%, Thompson by 8%, and Romney by 9%.

Barack Obama holds a more narrow 5% lead over Giuliani, a 6% lead over Thompson, and a 3% lead over Romney.

How do we explain these findings, in the wake of Edwards' third place showing in Democratic primary trial heats?

First, one naturally points to Edwards' southern roots. Since John F. Kennedy's victory in 1960, the only Democrats to win the Presidency were southern Democrats Jimmy Carter and Bill Clinton.

Second, Edwards--despite his current left wing rhetorical appeal--is actually perceived as more conservative than either Clinton or Obama.

Overall, 44% perceive Edwards as liberal in comparison to 51% who percieive Obama as liberal and 57% who see Clinton in this way.

By contrast, 13% characterize Edwards as conservative, compared to 8% who see Clinton and Obama in this way.

Finally, Edwards at this point demonstrates the greatest appeal to Independents beating Guiliani by 13%. Obama wins Independents by 5% and Clinton wins them by 3% against Guiliani.

All of this may well be academic as Clinton leads national trial heats for the Democratic nomination according to the Real Clear Politics average. She also holds double digit leads in New Hampshire, Florida, South Carolina and every early or important primary state. Rasmussen noted earlier this week that a Clinton victory is not inevitable, but she is the clear frontrunner.

The only place Clinton doesn’t have a solid lead at the moment is Iowa. Rasmussen noted recently that Iowa has become a must-win state for Obama. Despite his success in general election polling, the same is true for Edwards.

Douglas Schoen is a founding and former partner of Penn Schoen & Berland, and a Fox News Contributor.

Schoen was President Bill Clinton's research and strategic consultant during the 1996 reelection campaign.

:loveya:
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DavidDvorkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-04-07 10:22 PM
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45. Yeah, I loved that
Especially since Schoen is or was connected to Clinton.
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DavidDvorkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-05-07 10:22 AM
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46. 10/5/07 - Obama up, Clinton and Edwards down
One percentage point, in each case.

Short term, as an Edwards supporter, I'm unhappy. Long term, there's still no real movement.

Rasmussen links: Data in tabular form. Discussion.


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DavidDvorkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-08-07 07:52 PM
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47. 10/6-10/8/07 - Such stability!
Rasmussen links: Data in tabular form. Discussion.

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DavidDvorkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-09-07 07:52 PM
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48. 10/9/07 - Flatline!
All three unchanged. First time that's happened.



Rasmussen links:
Data in tabular form
Discussion.
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DavidDvorkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 11:36 AM
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49. 10/10/07 - Clinton steady, Obama down, Edwards up
The usual insignificant change.



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DavidDvorkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-11-07 08:17 PM
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50. 10/11/07 - Cliinton up, the boys down
Clinton up big.



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DavidDvorkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-12-07 10:39 AM
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51. 10/12/07 - Clinton pulling away, Obama and Edwards stalled


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DavidDvorkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-15-07 07:54 PM
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52. 10/13/07-10/15/07 - Other's doing well!
I'm sure this all means something.



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DavidDvorkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-16-07 07:45 PM
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53. 10/16/07 - Yawn


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DavidDvorkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-17-07 11:40 AM
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54. 10/17/07 - Still Yawning


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DavidDvorkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-18-07 07:25 PM
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55. 10/18/07 - You're Getting Sleeeepy


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DavidDvorkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-19-07 10:39 AM
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56. 10/19/07 - Small Changes, Nifty New Graph!
I've added a graph. The second one shows the differences between the three top candidates. This one does show a bit of a trend (which is partly easier to see because of the stretched vertical scale): Clinton generally increasing her lead over the other two, while Obama and Edwards bounce around but remain roughly the same relative to each other.





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DavidDvorkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-22-07 10:47 AM
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57. 10/20/07-10/22/07 - Clinton's Taking Over




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DavidDvorkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-23-07 08:02 PM
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58. 10/23/07 - Clinton Drops! Obama Stalls! Edwards Rises!
I'm trying to create the illusion of excitement.





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DavidDvorkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-24-07 10:15 AM
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59. 10/24/07 - Clinton Stalls, Obama Drops, Edwards on the Move!




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DavidDvorkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-25-07 07:51 PM
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60. 10/25/07 - Clinton Up, Edwards Down, Obama Flatlining!
Or, if you're being picky, not much is happening.





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DavidDvorkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-26-07 09:20 AM
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61. 10/26/07 - Clinton Down, Obama Down, Edwards Holding
Nothing significant. Note that Obama is below All Others now.





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DavidDvorkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-29-07 08:32 PM
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62. 10/27/07-10/29/07 - Dullsville, Man




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DavidDvorkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-30-07 07:58 PM
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63. 10/20/07 - Buncha Nothing




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DavidDvorkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-31-07 11:01 AM
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64. 10/31/07 - Now with cool trend lines
The second chart is the same as the first, but without All Others and with trend lines added for the Big Three. I used a fifth-power polynomial. (Because I liked the result, that's why!)

The Republican side is more interesting. The "tabular" link below shows Huckabee passing McCain for fourth place. He's close behind Romney and Thompson and could soon be #2, behind Giuliani.







Rasmussen links:
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DavidDvorkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-01-07 08:03 PM
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65. 11/1/07 - Clinton up, ObEd down
Edited on Thu Nov-01-07 08:04 PM by DavidD
Two points in all three cases. The trend lines are interesting, in the second chart. Whether they mean anyting is open to question, but they're interesting anyway.







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DavidDvorkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-02-07 10:17 AM
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66. 11/2/07 - Clinton Steady, Obama Up, Edwards Down
Tiny changes. Nothing happening.







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DavidDvorkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-04-07 05:05 PM
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67. 11/3/07 - Clinton and Edwards Steady, Obama Up
Still tiny changes and nothing actually happening.

I think this is the first time Ras has published any numbers on a weekend. I hope they're going to keep doing this.







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DavidDvorkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-05-07 08:55 PM
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68. 11/4/07-11/5/07 - Clinton sagging, Obama stalled, Edwards rising
Small changes, but I kinda like the trends.







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DavidDvorkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-06-07 08:44 PM
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70. 11/6/07 - Clinton and Obama falling, Edwards rising
The trend is still encouraging, especially now that I've extended it for a week. (I don't think a polynomial fit to polling data means anything, since there's no underlying physical process for the polynomial to fit, but I like the way those lines go, anyway.)







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DavidDvorkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-07-07 11:09 AM
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71. 11/7/07 - Clinton falls, Obama stalls, Edwards climbs
Lookit the trend.







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DavidDvorkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-08-07 11:24 PM
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72. 11/8/07 - Clinton & Obama up, Edwards down
The trends still look pleasing. And in fact, all three of them are staying within the narrow ranges they've been in all along.







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DavidDvorkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-09-07 11:12 AM
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73. 11/9/07 - Clinton up, Obama down, Edwards steady
So the three are still noodling around in the same ranges.







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DavidDvorkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-12-07 09:00 PM
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74. 11/10/07-11/12/07 - Slight changes, Edwards trending up






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DavidDvorkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-13-07 08:12 PM
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75. 11/13/07 - Clinton down, Obama flat, Edwards up
According to the trendlines, Edwards will pass Obama for the #2 position some time this weekend. It must be true, because I saw it on a graph.

Go, Johnny, go!







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DavidDvorkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-14-07 11:23 AM
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76. 11/14/07 - Clinton up, Obama still flat, Edwards ouch
Ouch, ouch, ouch.







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DavidDvorkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-15-07 11:30 PM
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77. 11/15/07 - Clinton down, Obama and Edwards up
They're still staying within those narrow ranges.







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DavidDvorkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-16-07 11:02 AM
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78. 11/16/07 - Clinton and Edwards unchanged, Obama up
Still within the same ranges, but Obama's movement will be significant, if it keeps up. On the other hand, no one's movements ever seems to keep up, in this poll. On the third hand, I thought this was the week when Big Things were expected to happen. On the fourth hand, just wait till after Thanksgiving, wow, will there be movement then!







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DavidDvorkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 08:22 PM
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79. 11/17-19/07 - Narrow movements over the weekend, no real change
No big happenings yet.

I'll toot my own horn, or at least graphical representation's horn. People post the latest Rasmussen daily numbers on DU and seem to read significance into the daily movements. But when you look at the graph of the numbers, you can see that, over the long term, nothing is happening.

Good lord, are we going to have to wait till after Iowa to see big movements in the national polls?







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DavidDvorkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-20-07 08:20 PM
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80. 11/20/07 - Clinton and Edwards up, Obama noticably down
I changed the meaningless fifth-order polynomial trend lines to probably equally meaningful logarithmic ones. These aren't so influenced by recent ups and downs, so I hoped they'd show the long-term trend. They show Clinton rising, Obama declining, and Edwards declining very slightly.







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DavidDvorkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-21-07 11:25 AM
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81. 11/21/07 - Clinton and Obama down, Edwards steady
Obama's drop is a serious one, at least over the short term.

Let's try third-order polynomial trend lines! Not because they show what I want to see, but more because they show what I think I'm seeing when I look at the graph of the Rasmussen data.

I wish Ras would publish the actual daily numbers, so we could see if the jumps and dips are just due to big outliers or if they reflect something more.







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Catchawave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-21-07 07:52 PM
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82. I am thankful for DavidD doing the daily charts !
They make my day :toast: Happy Thanksgiving :hi:

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DavidDvorkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-22-07 12:07 AM
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83. Thanks!
I noticed today that on the Rasmussen site it says that starting Dec. 7 they'll post the numbers every day, not just Mon-Fri. That will be nice.

I've been trying to extract the daily numbers from the four-day and weekly averages, but I don't think it can be done.
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DavidDvorkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-27-07 09:20 PM
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84. 11/27/07 - Clinton and Obama holding, Edwards down 1
This must be the week when everyone starts really moving! Come on, guys!







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DavidDvorkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-28-07 11:31 AM
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85. Rasmussen daily for 11/28/07 - Clinton down 1, Obama up 1, Edwards unchanged
From which I deduce ... um ... Yawn. What was I saying?







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DavidDvorkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 08:53 PM
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86. Rasmussen daily for 11/29/07 - Clinton sliding, Obama leaping, Edwards unchanged
Clinton's slide is continuing; it looks real. Obama is a very jaggedy guy with a weird chart.







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DavidDvorkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-30-07 11:21 AM
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87. Rasmussen daily for 11/30/07 - Clinton still sliding, Obama still leaping, Edwards still unchanged
The Clinton and Obama curves are doing the same thing they did in early October, so as always, we'll have to wait for another week or so of numbers before we can tell if this is a long-term thing.







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DavidDvorkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-01-07 02:23 PM
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88. Rasmussen daily for 12/1/07 - Clinton down 1, Obama unchanged, Edwards up 1
Fooled me - they published on Saturday. Let's hope they do it tomorrow, as well.

Okay, so this is the week Clinton collapses, Obama slides, and Edwards surges into the lead!







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DavidDvorkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-02-07 10:17 AM
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89. Rasmussen daily graph for 12/2/07 - Clinton and Edwards up 1, Obama down 3
Clinton is flattening and may have arrested her slide, Obama's rise has reversed, and Edwards continues to rise.







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DavidDvorkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-03-07 08:24 PM
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90. Rasmussen daily graph for 12/3/07 - All three unchanged
Rather unusual.







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DavidDvorkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 08:21 PM
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91. Rasmussen daily graph for 12/4/07 - Clinton's slide continues, Obama down 1, Edwards up 2
If this goes on ...







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DavidDvorkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-05-07 11:17 AM
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92. Rasmussen daily graph for 12/5/07 - Clinton down 1, Obama up 1, Edwards down 1
So we're back to the tiny changes. Need more data! More data!

The trendlines indicate that the top three Dems will converge at 25% in a week or so. If this goes on, that is.

On the Republican side, Rasmussen shows Huckabee in the lead. Ras also says that Huckabee now leads Clinton in Arkansas.







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Catchawave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-05-07 04:29 PM
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93. Happy 3 month anniversay David !
That is, when you started this thread ! And by the number of views, it's enjoyed by many :hi:

I think we're still in a 3-way tie counting down to the final days til the first vote in Iowa.

Again, thank you so much for providing this info :yourock:
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DavidDvorkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-05-07 05:16 PM
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94. Thanks!
I probably should start a new thread, because it's not really getting me down now. The graph isn't what I keep hoping to see, but it looks more encouraging lately.

And I'm increasingly hopeful about Iowa. I wish there were some sort of (reliable) daily poll from there. I'd add it to the posts.
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Catchawave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-05-07 05:44 PM
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95. Sweetie ! You do whatever suits you !
I'm just a girly fan :hi: AND, loving these graphs...on the good and not so good days :toast:
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DavidDvorkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-06-07 08:22 PM
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96. Rasmussen daily graph for 12/6/07 - Clinton and Edwards down 1, Obama up 2
Clinton's slide is slow and steady and undeniable. Obama and Edwards still don't show trends. Obama is the most volatile of the three, so I don't think his supporters should react too strongly to sudden changes in his numbers.

The differences chart shows a real tightening. I should add trend lines to that one.







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Plucketeer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-06-07 08:51 PM
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97. Looks GOOD
to lil' ol' me. John hovers just below the surface - like a gator waitin' to strike! Cool, un-nerved, steady as he goes. ;-)

:kick: butt, John!!!
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DavidDvorkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-06-07 09:41 PM
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98. That's my feeling, too
My hope, anyway.

An endorsement from Gore would break it wide open. I'm hoping for that, too.
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DavidDvorkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-07-07 11:19 AM
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99. Rasmussen daily graph for 12/7/07 - Clinton and Edwards up 1, Obama down 1
Clinton rebounds! Edwards surges! Obama collapses!

Or: No real change. I think that's my choice.








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DavidDvorkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-08-07 10:15 AM
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100. Rasmussen daily graph for 12/8/07 - Clinton up 2, Obama unchanged, Edwards down 1
Long run, Obama and Edwards stuck, Clinton still strikingly down but no longer falling. Jeez.








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DavidDvorkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-09-07 11:02 AM
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103. Rasmussen daily graph for 12/9/07 - Clinton and Obama up 2, Edwards down 2
Clinton's slide seems to have stopped.








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DavidDvorkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-10-07 08:19 PM
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104. Rasmussen daily graph for 12/10/07 - Clinton unchanged, Obama up 1, Edwards down 2
Sigh.








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Catchawave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-10-07 08:42 PM
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105. Turn that frown upside down :)
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2003/12/17/opinion/polls...

CBS Poll results for Dec. 17th, 2003:

Dean - 23%
Clark - 10%
Lieberman - 10%
Gephardt - 6%
Sharpton - 5%
Kerry - 4%
Edwards - 2%
Carol Moseley-Braun - 1%
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DavidDvorkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-11-07 11:19 AM
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106. Wow, that's illuminating
And of course it's Iowa that matters at this point.
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DavidDvorkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-11-07 11:20 AM
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107. Rasmussen daily graph for 12/11/07 - Clinton up 1, Obama unchanged, Edwards down 1
Ouch.








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DavidDvorkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-12-07 11:22 AM
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108. Rasmussen daily graph for 12/12/07 - Clinton down 3, Obama stalled, Edwards up 3
Clinton resumes slide! Obama surge squelched! Edwards leaping!

Very short term, anyway.








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DavidDvorkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-13-07 08:39 PM
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109. Rasmussen daily graph for 12/13/07 - Clinton up 1, Obama and Edwards unchanged
Even this late in the game, they're not going anywhere.








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DavidDvorkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 11:35 AM
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111. Rasmussen daily graph for 12/14/07 - Clinton and Edwards up 1, Obama down 1







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DavidDvorkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-15-07 12:51 PM
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112. Rasmussen daily graph for 12/15/07 - Clinton down 1, Obama unchanged, Edwards up 1
I shortened the period covered by the graphs. They now go back to the beginning of September.








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DavidDvorkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-16-07 10:40 AM
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113. Rasmussen daily graph for 12/16/07 - Clinton up 3, Obama unchanged, Edwards down 2







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DavidDvorkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-17-07 08:24 PM
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115. Rasmussen daily graph for 12/17/07 - All three unchanged
That's quite unusual.








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DavidDvorkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 08:36 PM
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116. Rasmussen daily graph for 12/18/07 - Clinton unchanged, Obama down 3, Edwards up 1
I changed the trend graph. It now goes back only 10 days, and the trend lines are linear. Less nifty looking but probably more meaningful.








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DavidDvorkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-19-07 11:16 AM
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117. Rasmussen daily graph for 12/19/07 - Clinton up 2, Obama unchanged, Edwards up 1
Surging, not surging, unsurging, resurging! Or whatever you prefer.








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DavidDvorkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-20-07 08:21 PM
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118. Rasmussen daily graph for 12/20/07 - Clinton down 3, Obama up 3, Edwards up 2
Go, John!

All Others are declining. Makes me wonder if their support is shifting to the top three. Of course, it's all really little bumps and dips.








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DavidDvorkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-21-07 11:31 AM
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119. Rasmussen daily graph for 12/21/07 - Clinton up 1, Obama down 3, Edwards down 2
The more things change ...








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Plucketeer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-21-07 03:46 PM
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120. I don't know WHO or WHAT "Rasmussen" is, but...
.... it's blantantly obvious that this poll's stuck someplace where the sun don't shine. :crazy:

When you've got even the MSM(!!!!) saying he's taking the lead - this poll's gotta be someone's fantasizing. :crazy:
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DavidDvorkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-21-07 08:31 PM
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121. Rasmussen has been around for a while
And is fairly well known. I have no idea how his accuracy compares to that of the other major pollsters.

I chose his data to graph because he's the only one who publishes a daily number. I was hoping it would show whatever trends there might be.
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Plucketeer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-23-07 04:19 PM
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122. I wasn't being critical, Dave
Just trying to look on the positive side. ;-)
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DavidDvorkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-27-07 11:10 AM
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123. Rasmussen daily graph for 12/27/07 - Clinton down 1, Obama unchanged, Edwards up 1
I thought the few days that Rasmussen skipped would produce something interesting, but the Big Three are still pretty much where they were.








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DavidDvorkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-27-07 11:11 AM
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124. Rasmussen daily graph for 12/27/07 - Clinton down 1, Obama unchanged, Edwards up 1
I thought the few days that Rasmussen skipped would produce something interesting, but the Big Three are still pretty much where they were.








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DavidDvorkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-28-07 11:57 AM
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125. Rasmussen daily graph for 12/28/07 - Clinton up 1, Obama and Edwards down 1
Still no real change. Are we going to have to wait till after Iowa to see movement?








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DavidDvorkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-29-07 11:29 AM
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126. Rasmussen daily graph for 12/29/07 - Clinton up 3, Obama up 1, Edwards down 1
Edited on Sat Dec-29-07 11:48 AM by DavidD
One could almost think that the attacks and counterattacks on DU are having no effect on these numbers at all!

(I finally thought of enclosing these in a page on my Web site. Why didn't I think of that before? Duh. The URL is http://www.dvorkin.com/rastrack.html If you like these graphs, please pass that URL around. Thanks.)








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DavidDvorkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-30-07 02:09 PM
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127. Rasmussen daily graph for 12/30/07 - Clinton and Obama down 1, Edwards up 2
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DavidDvorkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-31-07 11:36 AM
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128. Rasmussen daily graph for 12/31/07 - All three unchanged
Did anyone expect that?

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DavidDvorkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-01-08 11:37 AM
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129. Rasmussen daily graph for 1/1/08 - All three still unchanged
Very odd.

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DavidDvorkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 11:15 AM
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130. Rasmussen daily graph for 1/3/08 - Clinton down 1, Obama and Edwards up 1
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DavidDvorkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 11:35 AM
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131. Rasmussen daily graph for 1/4/08 - Clinton down 3, Obama up 2, Edwards up 1
Presumably, tomorrow's numbers will start showing the effect of Iowa, if there is one. Unfortunately, I may or may not be able to update these graphs for a few days.

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DavidDvorkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 08:15 PM
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132. Rasmussen daily graph for 1/4-1/8/08 - Clinton sinking, Obama and Edwards rising
Having been out of town for a few days, and plotting a few days' worth of numbers, I find the trends striking.

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DavidDvorkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 08:39 PM
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133. Rasmussen daily graph for 1/9/08 - Clinton unchanged, Obama up 2, Edwards down 1
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DavidDvorkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 11:18 AM
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134. Rasmussen daily graph for 1/10/08 - Clinton and Obama up 2, Edwards down 4
Ouch.

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DavidDvorkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 11:09 AM
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135. Rasmussen daily graph for 1/11/08 - Clinton up 1, Obama and Edwards unchanged
Boy, big things are going to happen tomorrow! I betcha! Maybe. Or not.

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DavidDvorkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-12-08 11:47 AM
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136. Rasmussen daily graph for 1/12/08 - Clinton up 4, Obama up 2, Edwards down 1
Depressing.

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(Pretend that the 10 and 20 lines are actually 0. Does anyone know how to make Excel label different parts of the axis differently?)

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DavidDvorkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 11:06 AM
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137. Rasmussen daily graph for 1/13/08 - Clinton and Obama up 1, Edwards down 2
Really depressing.

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(Pretend that the 10 and 20 lines are actually 0. Does anyone know how to make Excel label different parts of the axis differently?)

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DavidDvorkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 08:14 PM
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139. Rasmussen daily graph for 1/14/08 - Clinton and Obama down 2, Edwards up 1
A breath of hope!

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DavidDvorkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 08:17 PM
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140. Rasmussen daily graph for 1/15/08 - Clinton down 1, Obama down 4, Edwards up 2
The trends are right, at any rate.

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DavidDvorkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 11:41 AM
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141. Rasmussen daily graph for 1/16/08 - Clinton unchanged, Obama down 1, Edwards up 1
The Edwards train keeps chugging along!

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DavidDvorkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 08:18 PM
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142. Rasmussen daily graph for 1/17/08 - Clinton and Edwards unchanged, Obama up 1
Just when it was getting exciting, they're flattening out again.

(These graphs are all contained on one Web page at http://www.dvorkin.com/rastrack.html)








(Pretend that the 10 and 20 lines are actually 0. Does anyone know how to make Excel label different parts of the axis differently?)

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DavidDvorkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 11:15 AM
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143. Rasmussen daily graph for 1/18/08 - Clinton and Obama up 1, Edwards unchanged
(These graphs are all contained on one Web page at http://www.dvorkin.com/rastrack.html)








(Pretend that the 10 and 20 lines are actually 0. Does anyone know how to make Excel label different parts of the axis differently?)

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DavidDvorkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 11:07 AM
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144. Rasmussen daily graph for 1/19/08 - Clinton unchanged, Obama up 1, Edwards down 1
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(Pretend that the 10 and 20 lines are actually 0. Does anyone know how to make Excel label different parts of the axis differently?)

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DavidDvorkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-08 11:17 AM
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145. Rasmussen daily graph for 1/20/08 - Clinton and Edwards unchanged, Obama up 2
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(Pretend that the 10 and 20 lines are actually 0. Does anyone know how to make Excel label different parts of the axis differently?)

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DavidDvorkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 08:51 PM
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146. Rasmussen daily graph for 1/21/08 - Clinton up 3, Obama down 2, Edwards down 1
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(Pretend that the 10 and 20 lines are actually 0. Does anyone know how to make Excel label different parts of the axis differently?)

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DavidDvorkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-22-08 08:33 PM
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147. Rasmussen daily graph for 1/22/08 - Clinton up 1, Obama and Edwards down 1
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(Pretend that the 10 and 20 lines are actually 0. Does anyone know how to make Excel label different parts of the axis differently?)

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DavidDvorkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 11:07 AM
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148. Rasmussen daily graph for 1/23/08 - Clinton unchanged, Obama down 1, Edwards up 2
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(Pretend that the 10 and 20 lines are actually 0. Does anyone know how to make Excel label different parts of the axis differently?)

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DavidDvorkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 08:47 PM
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149. Rasmussen daily graph for 1/24/08 - Clinton and Obama unchanged, Edwards up 1
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DavidDvorkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 12:43 PM
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150. Rasmussen daily graph for 1/25/08 - Clinton down 1, Obama and Edwards unchanged
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DavidDvorkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-26-08 12:10 PM
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151. Rasmussen daily graph for 1/26/08 - Clinton down 5 (36), Obama up 3 (33), Edwards up 2 (18)
Is something significant happening? At last, an interesting week looms!

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DavidDvorkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 10:57 AM
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152. Rasmussen daily graph for 1/27/08 - Clinton up 4 (40), Obama down 2 (31), Edwards down 1 (17)
Back they go to where they were.

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DavidDvorkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 08:34 PM
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153. Rasmussen daily graph for 1/28/08 - Clinton down 1 (39), Obama unchanged (31), Edwards unchanged (17
Yawn.

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DavidDvorkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 08:30 PM
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154. Rasmussen daily graph for 1/29/08 - Clinton up 2 (41), Obama up 1 (32), Edwards up 1 (18)
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Catchawave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-23-07 07:20 PM
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23. You'll like these numbers
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waiting for hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-24-07 08:58 AM
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24. I Like Them!
:hi:
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DavidDvorkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-24-07 12:30 PM
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25. Those are great!
Edwards would mean a landslide, which would also probably mean big majorities in both houses of Congress.
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Catchawave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-25-07 07:40 PM
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28. Indeed, he will help "down ballot" for sure
He does well in state party straw polls, which inspires me also :) Those are the boots on the ground activists.

Keep the faith :hi:
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Catchawave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 01:34 PM
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34. SUSA new polls
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DavidDvorkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 04:16 PM
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35. Nifty
It's so damned clear who would be the best candidate in the general election.
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Catchawave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 06:31 PM
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36. Polls are funny, I like the idea that Dems are Kicking GOP butt....but
I did lie for a Zogby poll once, I think it was during Kerry-Edwards run, but I remember saying I was Republican, went to church every Sunday and shopped at Wal-Mart.....but was voting for them!

I like SUSA publishes the question with the results, but still, I don't trust polls ! :evilgrin:
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-05-07 10:38 PM
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69. Edwards is absolutely the most prepared campaigner. If Senator Clinton's
support begins to wobble in Iowa, I expect John Edwards to be the chief beneficiary of that slip in her polling.

My guess is that a large percentage of Senator Clinton's support is media-focused name recognition, plus the novelty of her celebrity as an electable female.

Edwards made a lot of good impression in Iowa in 04. I believe that residual good will remains for him there, and that he, Biden, and Obama are going to be in the first three positions by 11:00 p.m. CST January 3rd in Iowa.

The Des Moines REGISTER endorsed John Edwards last time. They may again.

Also, there is a very significant percentage of undecided voters still to make up their minds. Who's to say that John Edwards won't be their choice?

We're not only still in the hunt, we're within striking distance of the nomination, IMO.

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L84TEA Donating Member (668 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-08-07 10:37 AM
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101. Poll me...
I live in Iowa and I can honestly say I haven't' been polled. I asked my friends and family if they have; because they are huge fans of Edwards too... nada...

I have however had the O' campaign call me with this new crap-ass technique... They call and act like you at one time supported or support Ob. I am not crazy others have got the call from them too. It is a creepy slimy used car salesman technique... that even the Hill campaign hasn't stooped too.

I have seen big Ob signs around here, but very few they are just big so they make an impression. I haven't been asked to have an Edwards sign or I would display it proudly.

I will never believe or trust a poll... I believe that the top 2 pay the poll'ers well and handpick the "poll-ies"
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Catchawave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-08-07 08:19 PM
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102. Good for you !
:hi: Seems these polls drive the MSM coverage, which drives the polls !? I saw this goodie on Daily Kos today....

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2007/12/8/102655/342/586/419445

"Well that pretty much cleared it up for me, thanks Chuck Todd."

(and thanks DavidD for letting me hijack your thread, again!)
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IndyOp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-16-07 01:02 PM
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114. If you are willing to put a sign in your yard and help get signs to others --
then call the closest Edwards' campaign office and ask for one!

My guess is that they just don't have enough volunteers to go door to door to ask if you want one. In my little town in Indiana, I walked to the County Democratic Headquarters and got a sign to support our Democratic Mayor in the last race because I knew his volunteers were extremely busy.

John needs all the help he can get and you are in a location where you can help directly and inexpensively - just by asking them to come put a sign in your yard. Or, better yet picking up a few yourself and distributing them to friends or letting people know how they can get a sign.

Click the link just below and then click on the name of your county and you will see the address and phone number of the closest Edwards campaign office: http://johnedwards.com/iowa/offices/#

:hi:

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NastyRiffraff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 01:03 AM
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138. National polls are REALLY iffy right now
As the OP said, it's way to early to pay attention to them, if in fact it's EVER useful to pay attention. As we saw in NH, even state polls are unreliable this cycle. There are all kinds of Republicans running screaming from the GOP, and independents and undecideds who are looking for a home, and they don't like any of the Republican candidates (who can blame them?) but aren't used to voting for a Democrat. They're evaluating right now, and it can change daily, even hourly.

So get right back up! :bounce:
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