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Synnical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-25-09 11:01 PM
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Oh, now we are the "nones"??
Edited on Fri Sep-25-09 11:14 PM by Synnical
Edit for work look-up.

That's not even a word! Oh, wait it is - it's the ninth before the Ides of March!

But marginalize is a word I understand.

http://pewforum.org/news/display.php?NewsID=18769

September 25, 2009
One in 5 Americans may be secular by 2030

by Angela Abbamonte
Religion News Service

The number of American adults who do not identify with a particular religion is growing and may comprise more than 20 percent of the population in two decades, according to a new study.

Conducted by researchers at Trinity College, the study, entitled "American Nones: The Profile of the No Religion Population," showed that people who profess no religion, or "Nones," are similar to the general public in marital status, education, racial and ethnic makeup and income.

According to the study, it is possible that one in five Americans
will put themselves in the "None" category by 2030.

"We are here. We are like everybody else. We are part of the community." said Jesse Galef, communications associate at the Secular Coalition for America.

Galef hopes that this trend will dispel stereotypes that Nones have no morals because of their lack of religion and help them gain a political voice.

The study indicated that a large percentage of Nones also decline to identify with a political party. More than 40 percent call themselves independents; 34 percent say they're Democrats; and 13 percent Republican.

"If the Republican Party wants these votes back, they can't be dominated by the religious right," said Galef.

Barry Kosmin, head researcher for the study, said that the spread of the Nones is a national and historical phenomenon. He cited examples from the Founding Fathers, such as Thomas Jefferson's version of the Bible, in which he cut out reference to Jesus' divinity.

The most notable difference between Nones and the religious population is the gender gap. Only 12 percent of American women are Nones while 19 percent of American men claim no religion. According to the study, women who grew up in non-religious homes are less likely to stay non-religious. Women are also less likely to switch out of religion.

"Why, now, I have no clue," said Kosmin. "(The study) raises as many questions as answers." Most Nones would not consider themselves atheists. More than 50 percent believe in either a higher being or a personal God, while only 7 percent are self-proclaimed atheists. One in three say they "definitely" believe that humans developed from earlier species of animals.

Of "converted" Nones, 35 percent identified as Catholics until the age of twelve. William D'Antonio of Catholic University says this finding accords with his research, and that other studies have shown that Catholics often leave the church because they view it as overly dogmatic.

Kerry Robinson, executive director of the National Leadership Roundtable on Church Management (NLRCM), has been working to keep Catholics involved in the church by asking them to give of their talents in service.

"When you invite someone to give what they do best," said Robinson, "they become more invested in the church."

NLRCM is partnering with St. Thomas More Catholic Chapel and Center at Yale University to bring this concept to students who are excited about being a part of the Catholic Church. They are planning a pilot program that will span several campuses, bringing students together to be trained for church leadership after graduation.

Most of these students will be graduating with degrees in subjects like accounting and communication. This program hopes to "bring them and their service to the church and its temporal needs."

While this and other initiatives to keep people involved in religion develop, Nones are still growing in number and continue to look more like the general population.

In the conclusion of the Trinity study, researchers say Nones are the "invisible minority" in the U.S. "because their social characteristics are very similar to the majority." The shift to secularism in the 1990s largely happened "under the radar," the researchers said.

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Tobin S. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-26-09 07:27 AM
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1. There's some bias there
Edited on Sat Sep-26-09 07:58 AM by Tobin S.
besides calling non-rligious people "Nones" they also instruct us on how to get them back in the church.

Edit: Oops. I just realized you were quoting a religious site. I thought it was a news article. I'll leave my original response for shits and giggles. :)
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onager Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-26-09 11:31 AM
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2. WTF did they expect?
...people who profess no religion, or "Nones," are similar to the general public in marital status, education, racial and ethnic makeup and income.

Except for our big "God Sucks" tattoos, purple body paint, and habit of publicly eating Xian babies.

We're not "similar." We ARE the general public, you twit.
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PVnRT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-28-09 10:46 AM
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3. Since when does "secular" mean "atheist"?
I smell more bullshit coming off of this article.
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phantom power Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-28-09 11:29 AM
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4. Can we be the "noughts?" or "nulls?"
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TZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-01-09 09:01 AM
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9. I wanna be the Null hypothesis!
:rofl:
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realisticphish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-02-09 07:21 AM
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10. "Null hypothesis" is a great band name nt
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frogmarch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-28-09 01:46 PM
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5. haha...I read the excerpt aloud to
my husband while he was eating lunch, and he kept interrupting me with outbursts such as "What? This is a joke article, right?" Turns out he thought the article was about nuns. :-)
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Synnical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-28-09 07:15 PM
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6. That's funny. Thanks so much for sharing.
:-)

-Cindy
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Synnical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-28-09 08:42 PM
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7. Okay, so checked the "new study" - it's from 2008
In the "Information Age", that's old.

Here is this pdf link:

http://www.americanreligionsurvey-aris.org/reports/NONES_08.pdf
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Synnical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-29-09 09:00 PM
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8. PZ Myers steps in to the "nones" foray
I'm just posting this here for archive reasons, PZ can obviously support himself.

Fear the atheist

http://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/2009/09/fear_the_atheist.php

USNews and World Report (God and Country) Blog responds:

Few 'No Religion' Americans Are Atheists

http://www.usnews.com/blogs/god-and-country/2009/09/28/few-no-religion-americans-are-atheists.html


-Cindy in Fort Lauderdale




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