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Longhorn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-16-05 12:06 AM
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What a JERK! (Apprentice)
I'm absolutely speechless that Randall pulled such a rotten move and declined to recommend to Trump that Rebecca also be hired! What, his ego couldn't take sharing the spotlight? And what about Trump putting it to Randall in the first place? I can only assume he thought Randall would go along with it and then couldn't publicly "trump" his new apprentice's first decision. He may have a heck of an education but Randall is an idiot! </rant>
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Qanisqineq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-16-05 12:41 AM
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1. I was actually hoping Trump would hire both
from the beginning of tonight's show. I wasn't rooting for one over the other. I thought Randall was a better choice with more experience and education, but I though Rebecca was definitely talented, and she is how old? Did they say 23?

Randall was the star, the chosen apprentice. I thought he could have agreed that she should have been hired. I kind of understand, but at the same time I thought it was rather greedy. I think quite a few in the audience were a little shocked that he said no, too.
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qanda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-16-05 12:44 AM
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2. I'm sorry
Edited on Fri Dec-16-05 12:45 AM by qanda
Randall should not have had to share his accomplishment with Rebecca. Trump should have never ruined Randall's "win" by putting him in that position. The first black person to be hired as the Apprentice is supposed to kowtow to the whims and wishes of America and make sure the pretty white girl gets the same job that he outrightly won. Boo on Trump for doing that to Randall-- SO UNFAIR!!!!
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Longhorn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-16-05 09:51 AM
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3. I guess I didn't pay attention to race, sex, or attractiveness.
All I paid attention to is ability and though I liked both of them, neither seemed to have a clear advantage on the other. I agree that Trump shouldn't have put Randall on the spot like that but how would it have cost Randall anything to agree to it? Trump has two projects and two excellent people. He chose Randall first but even if he had decided to hire both of him, I don't see how that lessens Randall's accomplishment, nor do I see what race has to do with it.
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qanda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-16-05 10:32 AM
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4. If ability is the consideration
I don't see how Rebecca is even mentioned in the same sentence as Randall. She lost 2 out of three of her tasks and in her final task she failed to raise any money at a charity event. I remember people saying that she was the weakest link from the very beginning and so I guess her breaking her ankle is what qualified her to be a co-apprentice with Randall.
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Longhorn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-16-05 02:43 PM
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6. You apparently disagree with Randall, then.
He said many times that he and Rebecca were the two best qualified candidates, and I agree. And by the way, I understood that she lost one of three while PM -- the senior citizen technology fair when she stood by Toral. At least, that's what Randall kept saying last night.

Randall made his share of mistakes in the last project and on others througout the season. However, I don't disagree with Trump's choice. I DO disagree with Trump leaving the decision up to Randall and I disagree with Randall's decision. So I guess you and I will have to agree to disagree. :)
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Coyote_Bandit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-16-05 11:11 AM
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5. Mr. Trump, You Are FIRED
If Trump really believed the hiring decision was that important then:

(1) Randall would never have been given the opportunity to decide whether Rebecca was offered a position under the unprecedented and emotional circumtances; and

(2) Randall's decision would have been questioned and evaluated as the emotion driven decision that it was (it was all about winning) and disregarded for not considering the overall interests of the Trump organization (Randall's reasoning for his decision was that there should be only one winner which was all about him).

Trump has fired candidates for less.

Randall may have come across as a self interested jerk but he was likely taken by surprise. Trump knew what he was doing or was going to do. Clearly he was satisfied enough with Rebecca's performance that he would have hired her had Randall agreed.

All the best to Rebecca. She has Trump's stamp of approval without the obligation to work for him. I'm sure there are better opportunities for her.
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Goblinmonger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-16-05 03:33 PM
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7. Something was up with this
I think Trump talked to, at least, Randall about possibly hiring two. Or there were discussion about him doing that. When Randall did his little "poll" of the fired candidates, he says something to the effect of "if you think that I should be the sole, singular apprentice..." Why would he phrase it that way if he had no thoughts about Trump possibly hiring two.
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InvisibleTouch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-16-05 07:34 PM
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8. Hey Longhorn!
I remember fondly our discussions about Season 3. I've been watching the 4th season too, I just haven't been around DU that much. But, I totally agree with you. I was a huge Randal fan from the beginning, and was happy when he was hired - but I was also secretly hoping that Trump would hire both him and Rebecca, because I was majorly impressed with her as well. And I think he wanted to. In fact, he was setting the stage for it. There have been multiple firings this season (he even showed a clip), so why not a multiple hiring? I think he was really expecting Randal to recommend Rebecca for a job too. That's certainly what I would have expected. I always thought Randal exemplified that you can be a winner without being cutthroat, and that you can allow others to shine without feeling reduced yourself. It's been a long time since I've been so disillusioned with someone. In fairness, I think the question blindsided him a little, and he was still in "fight for myself" mode; perhaps he regretted the choice later, because it really did come off as amazingly selfish and very unlike him. Goes to show you nobody's perfect.
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Orangepeel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-21-05 12:19 PM
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9. Eh, I think Randall did the right thing
Randall didn't take anything away from Rebecca; he just didn't share something he earned and she didn't. Candidates (any of them) don't go on the Apprentice because they really want to work for Trump. They do it because they want to win and to leverage that win into future success.

Randall's image has suffered among many viewers (I think unjustly, but also undeniably as this thread shows), but it was bound to suffer. Either he looks like a jerk or he looks like he and Rebecca are equally qualified and that he let Trump dilute his win. Only time will tell how much the choice he made will hurt him among the business contacts, etc. that he wanted to leverage his win to impress. It is impossible to know what would have happened if he chosen the other lousy option.

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Goblinmonger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-22-05 02:37 PM
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10. Apparently Yahoo offered Rebecca a job
right after the taping of the show, and she is currently working for them. I would guess at equal or more salary than Randall.
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