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icymist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-18-06 05:25 PM
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What are the 'laws of Cubism'?
Edited on Wed Jan-18-06 05:30 PM by icymist
I've been looking back through the work being done during the turn of the twentieth century and came upon a sentence in a book saying that the "artists (in Paris) would discuss the laws of cubism." This made me ask out loud 'What in world are the 'laws' of cubism?' The general gist of cubism, as I understand, is taking the image apart and reconstructing it's essence, or as Picasso said, "not what you see, but what you know is there." Now, when looking at these artists, say....Paris, around 1910, what got them so upset when Marcel Duchamp introduced motion and time into cubism? An example of this, when Duchamp entered 'Nude Decending a Staircase, No.2', being the immediate and violent reaction among the Puteaux Cubists and the American critics at the New York Armory Show calling the work "a collection of saddle bags." Okay, enough ranting about this....wait until I get to Dadaism (another time).... So why in the world would cubist need laws after overthrowing the former ways of thinking?

on edit for spelling
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icymist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-21-06 05:22 AM
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1. Hello, anybody about the 'Laws' of cubisim.
You are all supposed to be artists here! Do you know anything about art history?
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cleofus1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-22-06 12:13 PM
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2. heh i never got a degree in art
Edited on Sun Jan-22-06 12:17 PM by cleofus1
took a whole bunch of classes though...i think i was entertained by art history...but really i'm more concerned with technique...i already have an idea of what i want to do and why...so i'm not concerned with other peoples styles...i like cubism ok...but i don't start dancing every time i see a picasso...the laws of cubism are not important enough for me to memorize or discuss...

i think mostly people here post their art as they do it...if you want to do an essay on art history and or cubism i'm sure i would enjoy reading it...


though i think my tastes run more to the thomas hart benton side of things

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cleofus1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-22-06 12:59 PM
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6. are there laws?
Cubism, the artistic expression that forefathered all abstract art, was simply a method of portraying multiple dimensions onto a two dimensional canvas. This is not unlike the task of the map maker in representing the earth in two dimensions.

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icymist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-23-06 05:42 PM
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8. That's the question I was asking.
Edited on Mon Jan-23-06 05:46 PM by icymist
When Marcel Duchamp began moving forward with his versions of Cubism, he was shunned and sometimes harassed out of art shows. I came across a statement saying the artists would gather and "discuss the laws of Cubism". I couldn't understand why people who were changing the way the world is viewed through art would shun somebody moving that view forward. Duchamp would only paint for a few more years after that, yet he influences people even today.

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cleofus1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-23-06 07:20 PM
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9. i do not think there are formal laws
just the ideas...as expoused in my previous post...
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cleofus1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-22-06 12:46 PM
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3. so do you prefer
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cleofus1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-22-06 12:48 PM
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4. or
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cleofus1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-22-06 12:53 PM
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5. how about this one
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icymist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-23-06 05:35 PM
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7. I like the (posts)#'s 3 &4, really progressive for their time.
Edited on Mon Jan-23-06 05:48 PM by icymist
I'm right in the middle of moving right now, (why I'm away for days at a time) but, #4 looks like Cezanne` whose style irked the Impressionists. They say Cezanne` would paint very slowly, pondering each brush stroke, sometimes taking hours (between brush strokes). #3 looks like the Picasso period where he and his room-ie, Barke (spelling?), were experimenting with their invention of collage. As for me, I have no real preference in art. Right now I'm in a playing stage, trying to see if I can create something new by studying and imitating what happened in Paris during the last century. Or do you think it's all been done as some people around me suggest. Well, I got to get back to moving my stuff.

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atomic-fly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-04-06 02:40 PM
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10. cubism basic concept
say your doing a still life. you draw the objects from vantage point A,
then you draw from vantage point B
Then C
D, etc.
So it's like you can see several views at one glance. (in the picture plane).
I think Cezanne did this in small increments by carelessness.
Eventually it evolved into a more fluid approach to viewing objects.
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