Any SOUPers into Jane Roberts/Seth?

[mandyky]

Mixes science and spirituality very convincingly.

Jane Roberts was the author and channeller for Seth, the spirit.

[Maat]

1. Sounds like interesting reading.

Just added to the list of things I would like to research - if I ever get a life again (right now, the law is my life). Just bought the Idiot's Guide to Paganism, though, in addition to a general book on the World's religions. Wanted to develop a basis of understanding in my mind.

Any basic info. you want to give will help.

[clydefrand]

2. Question: If we want to post, do we post as we normally do?

How do we find SOUP when we first go to "Discussion Forums"? Please PM if you think others already know this. Thanks, Fran

[mandyky]

3. From Lobby or Latest - click DU Groups

Groups are in alphabetical order, so SOUP is near the bottom of the list. From DU Groups you can add a group to your 15 group/forum limit.

[mandyky]

4. Jane Roberts was a poet/novelist

She realized during the 70's she could channel a being called Seth. There are many Seth books, like Seth Speaks. She also wrote a novel based on Seth's teachings - The Education of Oversoul 7. I am not sure if any of these books are available at Amazon, etc. People might have used books there up for sale though.

Seth was a very interesting "character". A lot of his "stuff" was based on quantum physics, and he claimed Matthew was a "fake gospel".
Seth refered to God as All That Is.

[Maat]

5. Wow, that's fascinating, Mandyky!

My church says, 'God is all there is!' Ernest Holmes founded the faith in the 1920's, and he studied all of the philosophers, such as Emerson, as well as the world's religions.

This also reminds me of 'Conversations with God,' by Neil Donald Walshe. I really loved that book.

Lot of recurrent themes when I study religion/philosophy.

The claim of Matthew being a fake gospel I'd never heard of before. But then I don't study the bible or theology.

Thanks for the post. I learned something.

If these great people have said it, 'God is all that is' or 'God is all that is,' that makes me feel good. And it is so! (as we say to end our prayers).

[Desertrose]

6. read Jane/Seth back in the early 80's

Totally blew my thoughts on linear time out the window. Read all her books...but haven't looked at them for about 20 years......

As I recall they were well done...heavy stuff (for me at that point...but I had a toddler at the time LOL) ....it took a while to "percolate" into my brain...like I immediately understood what was being stated but could not explain it too well to others...eventually as I assimilated things, that was less of a problem.

I really felt it was a valuable foundation :)

[mandyky]

7. Do you remember his ideas on the weather and mass consciousness?

What with the 4 FL hurricanes, the tsunami and other crazy weather this year, I wonder about that a lot.

[Love Bug]

8. Here is something:

Here is a quote from someone who read The Individual and the Nature of Mass Events:

By the time this book was published I had begun reading all of Jane Roberts' new books as soon as they came out. I acquired this one in February 1982 and completed it around May 1982. Living as I do in an area which is subject to hurricane incursions from time to time, I was particularly interested in what Seth had to say about myself and the nature of these mass events. In the understanding I reached from reading this book I was no longer frightened of impending hurricanes - I came to recognize them as perennial dead-tree-limb trimmers much like the spin cycle on a washing machine that cleans up our dirty laundry. Hurricanes, Seth tells us, have people steering currents that attract hurricanes into areas where people's lives have been stultified and which need a little moving and shaking to get them back on track again. For over twenty years since reading this book, I have placed Seth's words before me in every hurricane season and seen them confirmed.

How does one confirm such a thing? Here's how I did it. I reasoned that if what Seth said was true, then one could expect that huge hurricanes would not hit the same area in successive years, if ever again at all. Hurricane Betsy hit New Orleans in 1967 and Hurricane Camille the Gulf Coast of Mississippi a couple of years later. No hurricanes have returned along those identical paths with identical strength. Maybe some will return, but I'm convinced that when one does, there will be good reasons for why they will be pulled into these areas. Out of the destruction will arise a newer and better locale, as I expect has happened in Homestead, Florida since Hurricane Andrew and South Carolina since Hurricane Hugo. I lived in California for three years and the mass events we had there were earthquakes, mud slides, Santa Winds, and raging fires. Give me a nice dependable hurricane any day over those mass events.

http://www.doyletics.com/art/masseven.htm

Here's a quote from the book:

I have thus far stayed clear of many important and vital subjects, involving mass realities, because first of all the importance of the individual was to be stressed, and his power to form his private events. Only when the private nature of reality was emphasized sufficiently would I be ready to show how the magnification of individual reality combines and enlarges to form vast mass reactions -- such as, say, the initiation of an obviously new historical and cultural period; the rise or overthrow of governments; the birth of a new religion that sweeps all others before it; mass conversions; mass murders in the form of wars; the sudden sweep of deadly epidemics; the scourge of earthquakes, floods, or other disasters; the inexplicable appearance of periods of great art or architecture or technology.

<snip>

Each person's thoughts flow into that formation, forming part of the earth's psychic atmosphere. From that atmosphere flows the natural earthly patterns from which your seasons emerge with all their variety and effects. You are never victims of natural disasters, though it may seem that you are, for you have your hand in forming them. You are creatively involved in the earth's cycles. No one can be born for you, or die for you, yet no birth or death is really an isolated event, but one in which the entire planet participates. In personal terms, again, each species is concerned not only with survival but with the quality of its life and experience.
In those terms, natural disasters ultimately end up righting a condition that earlier blighted the desired quality of life, so that adjustments were made.

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And here's the best quote from Seth:

Your thoughts and beliefs and desires form the events that you view on television. If you want to change your world, you must first change your thoughts, expectations, and beliefs. If every reader of this book changed his or her attitudes, even though not one law was rewritten, tomorrow would have changed for the better. The new laws would follow. Any new law always follows the change in belief. It is not the other way around.

[ayeshahaqqiqa]

9. This was my primer

I read "Seth Speaks" in the early 70s, and read all her books until 1989. I find it interesting that the Sufism I practice, like Seth, links science and spirituality. Many many of the concepts are similar.

[Is It Fascism Yet]

10. yep, read 'em all, great books, n/t

[Is It Fascism Yet]

11. thanks for this timely reminder of a worthwhile body of work and

let us all try hard to influence events in a constructive way.

[BeFree]

12. Most profound

"The Nature of Personal Reality" I would recommend to everyone.

One day, I was searching for a store which I thought had an item I was in great need of. I searched along a road for the place, and having not found it, went into a bookstore to ask if they knew where such a place might be found.

No, they'd never heard of it, but since I was there began browsing the shelves and came across the "Nature of..".

As I look back, it occurs to me that what I really needed was that book, and I found it, I just didn't realize it at that time.

A caveat... if you read and understand the book, be aware that your friends will never again look at you quite the same way. LOL

[mandyky]

13. LOL I know what you mean!

There are some things you can only speak openly to with other "seekers".