Remember this: only Kucinich delegates will support progressive policies at the convention.

[Ken Burch]

There may be other people who call themselves progressives elected as supporters of other candidates, but they will all subordinate their principles and their conscience to the will of their candidates. They will show no independence and they will not fight for a progressive platform if their candidate doesn't want one(and remember, we know that none of the currently leading candidates WANT a progressive platform, but prefer the meaningless corporate mush we've run on since '92).

If you want the Democrats to be different than the Republicans, if you want the convention to matter, if you REALLY want to win, you need to back Kucinich because only his delagates will vote for peace, social justice, and worker's rights. The other delegates will just blindly do what they're told.

[Jim Sagle]

1. Accept no substitutes!

:rofl::rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

[Mika]

2. Well .. there are the Workers Party and the Socialist Party

www.workersparty.org

and..




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;)

[Ken Burch]

3. Well yeah, but I meant WITHIN OUR PARTY

Basically, the Clinton, Kerry, Obama and Edwards delegates will be checking their souls at the door.

For them, "What the candidate wants" is all that matters.

[DaveinMD]

4. he wouldn't win

a single state. Of course I have as much chance of being nominated as him.

[Ken Burch]

5. The people who "could win" wouldn't be worth electing

Unless they embraced progressive policies.

There will never be another good reason to have another 2004 platform and convention experience.

Only a platform with clear, strong, unapologetic progrssive principles can produce a Democratic victory AND a worthwhile Democratic administration. It can't be worth settling for another DLC thing.

[DaveinMD]

6. party platforms

are meaningless documents. Campaigns are run by candidates.

OUr most conservative Democratic candidate is a lot more progressive than what the Republicans put forward. So winning is worth it. But you probably voted for Nader instead of Gore.

[Ken Burch]

7. Electing Warner couldn't be worth it.

Nonetheless, I will vote for the Democratic nominee, even if it's for a meaningless DLC victory.

And if we say platforms are meaningless, that's the same thing as saying principles are meaningless. Candidates CAN'T be trusted to have principes of their own. Only the rank-and-file have convictions and values.

[DaveinMD]

8. not the same thing

voters don't vote on party platforms. 99 percent have never seen a party platform. Candidates are what voter vote on.

[ayeshahaqqiqa]

10. They might in the future

Unity08 is testing the idea of having online folks formulate and vote on a platform from which they will expect their candidates to run.

[ayeshahaqqiqa]

9. Kucinich was among the top vote getters

in Unity08's "Nice" contest. They asked people to nominate current members of congress who were the least partisan and beholden to special interests. Dennis was tied for third in the poll.

www.unity08.com