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clarence swinney Donating Member (673 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-20-09 11:53 AM
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GREAT JIMMY CARTER
Democrats are dumb to let Carter be demeaned.

COMPARE CARTER TO REAGAN
ALL AMERICAN BRAIN

(4 yrs to 8 yrs. So, use Average per year on some and Monthly average also.)

ONE SIMPLE QUESTION.

HOW COULD THE DEMOCRATIC LEADERSHIP ALLOW THE TRASHING OF CARTER AS A FAILED PRESIDENT??? DISGUSTING. CARTER WRITINGS AND SPEECHES WERE MARVELOUS. BRILLIANT. PROPHESY.

--------------------JOBS-------------------------------------------------

Real Increase—Carter-13.0% in 4 years—Reagan-17.5% in 8 yrs

Carter 10,488,000 in 4—Reagan 15,935,000 in 8.

*Per month Carter averaged far more than Reagan
218,000 to 175,000.


Care to compare number of homes built per year. Don’t. Reagan killed S & L’s.
Care to compare GDP growth without massive spending + 80% (borrow) programs.
Carter-3.4%--Reagan 3.4% even with major government spending
Care to compare Increase in National Income and GDP to Debt Growth
Care to compare percent increase in Federal Revenues
Care to compare GDP Growth in “Real” dollars per year

Care to compare First THREE Years---

First figure is Carter

Real GDP—+3.2%-- +1.3%= 59% less for RR
Industrial Production--+3.0%--+.01%= 97% less for RR
Rate Capacity Utilization 83.4% --75.9% = 9% less for Reagan
Plant-Equip. Expend. +14.6%--.8%= 95% less for Reagan
Housing Starts—1.76 Million—1.28 million = 27% less for Reagan
Domestic auto sales—8.48 million—6.25 million= 26% less for Reagan
Business Failures—8461—24,291= +189% more for Reagan
Civilian Unemployment—6.5%--9.0%= +38% more for Reagan
Number Unemployed—6.74 million—9.89 million=+47% more for Reagan
Real Disposable Income Growth--+1/9%--+1/3%= 32% less for Reagan
Prime Rate—10.96%--14.94%= +35% more for Reagan
Federal Budget Deficit—48.5 Billion—153.billion= +215% more for Reagan
Farm Income--+1.75%---5.7%= 326% less for Reagan


Comparison Above of 13 items from CBO Record 3-26-84

Care to compare number killed overseas
Care to compare percent Increase in Defense Spending
Care to compare number of LIES told
Care to compare numbers of departments with SCANDALS
Care to compare numbers of administration members who were investigated, went to prison, convicted or charged.
Care to compare respect by foreign nations
Care to check 1947 National Security Act that was instrumental in checking the expansion of communism.
Care to compare number of times president went to church.
Care to compare results of Community Reinvestment Act Vs S&L Death Act
Care to compare how historians rank them without $$ spent by conservative think tanks
(In 1994 Reagan was ranked tenth from bottom-- Conservatives have spent millions
re-inventing his average record).
Care to compare as DEREGULATOR? Airlines-Financial Institutions-Transportation
Care to compare with which created FEMA
Care to check who was President when FISA was passed into law?
Care to check who started Centcom—As-RDJTF-Rapid Deployment Task Force-
(Reagan changed name to Centcom) -U.S forces designated for possible employment to Middle East.
Carter produced the First Arab-Israeli Peace Treaty
Carter normalized trade with China
Carter led the Senate to obey our treaty and yield control of Panama Canal.
Carter killed the neutron bomb
Carter won Nato agreement to match Soviet missiles in Europe
Carter limited strategic nuclear arms with Salt II Treaty.
Carter paid UN dues in full, on time and without conditions.
Carter got third world majorities against Vietnam’s intervention on Cambodia.
Carter placed embargoes on Soviets for invasion of Afghanistan
The great anti-communist Reagan lifted them while Soviets were still in Afghanistan
Carter efforts were significant on—Human Rights impartiality, nuclear build down, energy sustainability, Middle East peace, non-interventionism .
Same President who said this—“The oil flow from the Persian Gulf is a vital interest to the United States and this country will employ any means necessary including military force to overcome an attempt by a hostile power to block that flow.”

Imagine the praise had Reagan made that statement.

Carter increased CAFE standards—Reagan cancelled them. Loved oil people. Backers in California. Henry Salvatori. Pals first America second.

When Carter left office it took 3.6 years of average income to purchase an average priced new home. After Reagan’s years it took 4.2 Years and now under Bush II 5.4 years.

When Conservatives hit on Carter as a “do nothing” administration they best not check the FACTS.

Inflation was Carter’s big handicap. Remember Oil Prices? Food prices?
Inflation had nothing to do with his Fiscal policies

Reagan took credit for whipping inflation. Blarney Baloney.
It was Carter’s hire Paul Volcker. Who whipped inflation (at cost of 5 million jobs)
Reagan had inflationary fiscal policies. Carter did not.

Evangelicals want a true, devout, Christian? They better look to a genuine one. Carter.

Conservatives re-invent and trash other presidents in an effort to promote Reagan.
Reagan was not by any means an above average President.
Blarney Baloney Deluxe. An actor acting in a role as President.
He was graded as a C president.
Historians use numbers not emotions.
500 in 1994 rated him tenth from bottom
in 1994 one of top two historical societies polled members and rated him 21% above average 79% below average.

Reagan honored Nazi SS Troops. Carter Fought.

NO NUMBERS REVEAL AN ABOVE AVERAGE RECORD

If anyone has some present them I will use them

Carter's Energy principles/plans- 1977

The first principle is that we can have an effective and comprehensive energy policy only if the government takes responsibility for it and if the people understand the seriousness of the challenge and are willing to make sacrifices.

The second principle is that healthy economic growth must continue. Only by saving energy can we maintain our standard of living and keep our people at work. An effective conservation program will create hundreds of thousands of new jobs.

The third principle is that we must protect the environment. Our energy problems have the same cause as our environmental problems -- wasteful use of resources. Conservation helps us solve both at once.

The fourth principle is that we must reduce our vulnerability to potentially devastating embargoes. We can protect ourselves from uncertain supplies by reducing our demand for oil, making the most of our abundant resources such as coal, and developing a strategic petroleum reserve.

The fifth principle is that we must be fair. Our solutions must ask equal sacrifices from every region, every class of people, every interest group. Industry will have to do its part to conserve, just as the consumers will. The energy producers deserve fair treatment, but we will not let the oil companies profiteer.

The sixth principle, and the cornerstone of our policy, is to reduce the demand through conservation. Our emphasis on conservation is a clear difference between this plan and others which merely encouraged crash production efforts. Conservation is the quickest, cheapest, most practical source of energy. Conservation is the only way we can buy a barrel of oil for a few dollars. It costs about $13 to waste it.

The seventh principle is that prices should generally reflect the true replacement costs of energy. We are only cheating ourselves if we make energy artificially cheap and use more than we can really afford.

The eighth principle is that government policies must be predictable and certain. Both consumers and producers need policies they can count on so they can plan ahead. This is one reason I am working with the Congress to create a new Department of Energy, to replace more than 50 different agencies that now have some control over energy.

The ninth principle is that we must conserve the fuels that are scarcest and make the most of those that are more plentiful. We can't continue to use oil and gas for 75 percent of our consumption when they make up seven percent of our domestic reserves. We need to shift to plentiful coal while taking care to protect the environment, and to apply stricter safety standards to nuclear energy.

The tenth principle is that we must start now to develop the new, unconventional sources of energy we will rely on in the next century.

These ten principles have guided the development of the policy I would describe to you and the Congress on Wednesday.

Our energy plan will also include a number of specific goals, to measure our progress toward a stable energy system.

These are the goals we set for 1985:

--Reduce the annual growth rate in our energy demand to less than two percent.

--Reduce gasoline consumption by ten percent below its current level.

--Cut in half the portion of United States oil which is imported, from a potential level of 16 million barrels to six million barrels a day.

--Establish a strategic petroleum reserve of one billion barrels, more than six months' supply.

--Increase our coal production by about two thirds to more than 1 billion tons a year.

--Insulate 90 percent of American homes and all new buildings.

--Use solar energy in more than two and one-half million houses.

We will monitor our progress toward these goals year by year. Our plan will call for stricter conservation measures if we fall behind.

I cant tell you that these measures will be easy, nor will they be popular. But I think most of you realize that a policy which does not ask for changes or sacrifices would not be an effective policy.

This plan is essential to protect our jobs, our environment, our standard of living, and our future.

Whether this plan truly makes a difference will be decided not here in Washington, but in every town and every factory, in every home an don every highway and every farm.

I believe this can be a positive challenge. There is something especially American in the kinds of changes we have to make. We have been proud, through our history of being efficient people.
HOW CAN DEMOCRATS IGNORE SUCH A GREAT MAN?

Millions have been spent by rich Conservatives “re-inventing” the Reagan record as Great. Reagan skill was in telling jokes and humorous stories. Everything was a joke to him. White House staffers adored him for his pleasantness. We should have hired “Uncle” Miltie.






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Laelth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-20-09 11:55 AM
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1. I remain quite proud of Jimmy Carter. n/t
:dem:

-Laelth
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Jackpine Radical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-20-09 11:56 AM
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2. I assume Uncle Miltie was a Democrat.
How could he not be?
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-20-09 11:59 AM
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3. Carter remains one of the few politicians for whom I have great respect...
And for me one of the saddest days in American and planetary history was the day Reagan (that short-sighted fool) removed Carter's solar panels from the White House.
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clarence swinney Donating Member (673 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-12-09 06:35 PM
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13. Carter was/is Great
Edited on Sun Jul-12-09 06:36 PM by clarence swinney
What legacy for the world was left by Reagan. By Bush family.

Ford cared..Carter cared. Clinton cared. Obama cares.

MIDDLE CLASS POOR MIDDLE CLASS
POOR

build a large middle class with a decent standard of living for all

AMERICA RAPED OF DECENT STANDARD OF LIVING BY CONSERVATIVES SINCE 1980

REAGAN + BUSH FAMILY CARE FOR COUNTRY CLUB + WALL STREET ELITES.

TRIPLE A RANKED

ANTI CHRIST
ANTI AMERIRA
ANTI WORLD

CSWINNEY2@TRIAD.RR.COM
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clarence swinney Donating Member (673 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-12-09 06:40 PM
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14. GREAT ANTI COMMUNIST
Soviet invaded Afghan.
Carter put on sanctions.

One of Reagan first Exec orders was to remove sanctions off the EVIL EMPIRE.

what a xxxxx!

Armed EVIL EMPIRE of Iran.

Freaknut?

cswinney2@triad.rr.com
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sazemisery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-20-09 12:00 PM
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4. Like myself, he is too forward thinking for the mainstream. n/t
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Tuesday Afternoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-20-09 12:07 PM
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5. +1
:thumbsup:
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AndyTiedye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-20-09 12:24 PM
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6. The Democrats "Allow" It Because We Cannot Prevent It. We Don't Own the Media. They Do.


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clarence swinney Donating Member (673 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-12-09 06:26 PM
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11. ANDY SO CORRECT
MEDIA OWNERSHIP

Republicans own/manage

clear channel communications-1200 right wing radio stations

cbs--abc--nbc--msnbc--cnbc--cnn-fox

total republican control
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lefthandedlefty Donating Member (247 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-26-09 12:02 PM
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7. Jimmie was one of our best presidents that never got a chance
The neo-cons went after him just like they did with Clinton and are doing to Obama.Every mess That Nixxon made Carter gets the blame for right to this very day.I remember the so-called oil shortage during the Nixxon years,as soon as the price got up where they wanted it we had plenty never mind that it destroyed our economy for the next 20 years.Does anyone remember the Nixxon price freezes I do.
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clarence swinney Donating Member (673 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-12-09 06:30 PM
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12. Ted Kennedy
Never forget he tried to replace Carter

He split the vote.

Reagan won on Hostages.

Bush arranged for them to be held until after election

Payback=Arms

cswinney2@triad.rr.com
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swampfoxx Donating Member (1 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-05-09 09:49 PM
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8. On top of that
Carter was actually progressive in environmental policy. Something that Reagan reversed in his first few years of the presidency.
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Boni Donating Member (4 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-27-09 08:08 PM
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9. Carter Years
You have got to be kidding. Were you alive and paying bills during the Carter administration? It was terrible. Gas prices soaring. Lines at the gas pump. Fuel bills sky high. Mortgage interest rates at 17%. Our hostages in Iraq humiliated for the world to see. There have been some great Democrats. Carter was not one of them.
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clarence swinney Donating Member (673 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-12-09 06:23 PM
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10. carter
Subject: not carter policies
Message:
Fuel prices started in 1973 with Opec
Fuel + world Food shorts created inflation not Carter fiscal policies

Carter capped fuel prices you may recall.

Reagan immediately removed them.

WWII to Reagan "REAL" Interest rates averaged wee bit over 1%.

Reagan averaged 5% over 8 years with high of 8%.

Reagan had 10-14% Home loan Interest Rates in all of his first term.

Student Loan interest rate was 16% under Reagan

Reagan had worst Recession since Great Depression.

In fairness it was Volcker not Reagan.

Volcker whipped Inflation by strangling money supply and a cost of 5 million jobs lost in "his" Recession.

Carter gave Reagan a 1000B Debt and it went to 2800B. Two hundred years to get to 1000 then zoom.

Carter gave Reagan a 600B Budget and it went up by 80% for largest peacetime increase in history

Carter gave Reagan a relative Peace on Earth which Reagan immediately turned into a
horror in Nicaragua--el salvador- lebanon africa- grenada

Reagan was polled as most feared world leader in many nations.

cswinney2@triad.rr.com
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angryfirelord Donating Member (248 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-17-09 09:50 PM
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16. Sources please
Unless you cite your information, it just looks like you pulled this from a chain mail.
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lk9550 Donating Member (51 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-14-09 12:50 AM
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15. I agree
Carter was a great man. Reagan was a SOB
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