HOW IDENTIFY A CONSERVATIVE

[clarence swinney]

NOTE: THIS DOES NOT INCLUDE 8 YEARS OF BUSH II AND NEO-CON DISASTERS --IMAGINE THAT HORRID LIST

HOW TO IDENTIFY A CONSERVATIVE

Love to Spend & Borrow
Hate to pay your way
Praise two presidents who, over 12 years, had an average GDP growth of 2.6%.
Love gutless Marine and Admiral who pled the Fifth to avoid conviction for crimes.
Love 137 who were charged with crimes over 8 years of plunder the treasury.

-----------------YOU ARE A CONSERVATIVE IF YOU CLAIM THESE------------


# 1--Debt Creation—equivalent of 600 years worth in 12 years.
# 1--Deficit Creation—400 years worth in 8 years
# 1--Lowest GDP Growth, over a 12 years period, since WWII.
# 1--In number of times (258) a President and Admiral testified under oath “I don’t remember”.
# 1--Bank Failures—President smiling and chanting “No Pain –No Gain”.
# 1--Personal Bankruptcies -President smiling and chanting “No Pain-No Gain”
# 1--Business Bankruptcies-President smiling and chanting “No Pain-No Gain”
# 1--Farm Foreclosures
# 1--Looting of S & Ls after a President said –“Folks, I think we just hit the jackpot.” The Vaults are unguarded come and get it. They did. 140 Billion charge to taxpayers.
# 1--Total bankruptcies
# 1--Stagnating median incomes
# 1--60% Tax Cut to Rich
# 1--In having a President with Alzheimer’s. No pain-No gain.
# 1--In having a President who was Produced-Directed-and Protected like a Grade B actor in a Role.
# 1--In having a President who lied, over and over, about his wife’s age. Who cared?
# 1--In having the first President to have had a Shotgun Wedding.
# 1—In having a President who shacked up with love of his life while his wife was in the hospital delivering their child.
# 1--To have a President who lied about having a close-knit family.
# 1--To have a President guided in his decisions by the Stars
# 1--In having a President who preached religious values but never had membership in a church and rarely attended worship services and was never known to pray
# 1--In having a President who called a lying, stealing, wife abusing psychotic Marine a “Hero” then a “Liar”.
# 1--In having a President who rarely used the word “ethics” during 16 years in Government.
# 1--In losing 241 Marines from a stupid decision to shell civilian villages.
# 1--In claiming a “Great Victory” after an attack on a small Island with 88,000 inhabitants armed with .22 rifles and pea shooters.
# 1--In claiming as a “Great Victory” and proclaiming “we have finally killed the Vietnam Syndrome” and “America Stands Tall Again”. What would he have said had we conquered Haw River N C. Greatest victory since WWII?
# 1--In pushing a “disinformation campaign” against a very small nation then bombing that nation which resulted in a revenge bombing of Pan Am 103 killing 270 Civilians.

Then, bragging how he had “defeated Terrorism”. Till Bush resurrected it.

# 1--In shooting down an airliner and killing 290 civilians. OOPS! Goof. Sorry Iran.
# 1--In having a 20% Prime Interest Rate smiling and proclaiming “No Pain-No Gain”.
# 1--In having the highest “real” Interest Rates since WWII.
# 1--In having 15% Home Loan Interest Rates and smiling-No Pain-No Gain.
# 1--in having 16% college loan interest rate
# 1--In killing the Home Construction Business by allowing Raids on S & L’s to use money for golf course, resorts, business building etc. where in the past the primary purpose was to build homes in local communities.
# 1--In having 10.8 % unemployment while smiling. No Pain-No Gain. Highest rate since great depression.
# 1--In having a recession in one-third of twelve years.
# 1—In scandals. Every Major Scandal in 20th Century was on a Republican Administration unless you want to call ML major.

----------------------YOU ARE A GREAT CONSERVATIVE IF----------

You don’t like children (screw them they don’t vote)
You don’t like the poor (screw them they don’t vote)
You don’t like the elderly (screw them they are unproductive and wasteful)
You don’t like the infirmed elderly (screw then they don’t vote)
You don’t like students ( keep them stupid so they will vote Republican)
You hate unions
You don’t like minorities ( screw them not enough vote)
You don’t like legal immigrants ( screw them they don’t vote)
You love profiteering from public service
You love the very wealthy and cannot do enough for them
You worship big business
You love to tear down years of Progress and smile as you slash and burn yelling “No Pain-No gain”.
You love, with a passion, the opportunity to transfer wealth from hard working middle class to those who will never spend their wealth but just keep yelling ”More-More-More-give us more and we will never be satisfied until we are like Haiti where 5% own 95 % of the wealth.
You love to use the whip of punishment instead of the effort to change and save from sin.
You love the threat of War which allows you the opportunity to send more wealth to big corporations and the rich.
You like, admire, and almost worship that which 75% of Americans detest as mean and cruel--Your God-Newtnut
You love all types of killing guns
You love executions
You love to steal elections
You were against WWII Draft
You hate Medicare (but love to use it)
You hate Social Security (but love to get it)
You hate Medicaid
You love world’s largest rich man’s gambling casino-Wall Street
You love to kill Mommie’s by denying abortion that will save her life


Want a Deep Recession then take a chance with Republicans in total control for their history is that---ALL depressions—all “significant” recessions have been under a Republican Administration in the Twentieth Century.

Addendeum10-08-O9
20 years of Conservatism—Reagan-Bush I-Bush II and we have been in a Recession in 7 of 20 years or in 35 percent of the years.

---unbiased, impartial, objective political historian--
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[notesdev]

1. I got a simpler formula

a conservative is someone who defends the status quo.

Stick to this definition - its actual, technical definition - and "conservative" and "liberal" break out in very interesting ways.

[rfranklin]

3. Actually they hate the status quo....

They want to go back in time. They are convinced that the days of slavery and barefoot and pregnant women were the greatest times ever.

[notesdev]

5. There's a different word for that

Those types are called "reactionary"

[Ukonkivi]

13. notesdev = quality user

notesdev is a person who clearly knows their stuff.
A person who is a Conservative believes in the Status Quo.
A person who believes in Liberty is a Liberal.
And a person who wants to return to something is a reactionary.

The American media is anti-intellectually distorting these terms to haze and distort the history of politics and terms.
Like the way companies steal away and replace with plastic and weak, the traditions in which they often emulate.
Such as the Winter Solstice. I am not being Conservative, Reactionary, Luddite, or anti-Modern Primmie.

I am merely saying that Corporations, even the more left leaning such as MSNBC, are plastic with things.
People need to spend more time with the history of politics and books of good, sadly uncommon sources than the typical "liberal" versus "conservative" banter of things. The rabbit hole is much deeper than the trite stereotypes of things.

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[caitxrawks]

17. heh

Ain't it the truth?

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[I Am So Me]

23. Why Liberals Become Conservative

The problem with that saying of a conservative being someone who upholds the status quo is that when liberals take over the government then they will be the ones upholding their policies, and since that'll be the status quo, that means that liberals turn into conservatives.

[daggahead]

2. I would assert that ...

A conservative values things. A liberal values people.

[KansDem]

4. Add one more...

# 1--In having a President who encouraged attacks on US troops by declaring, "Bring it on!"

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[Contrary1]

8. No thanks...refuse to give Beck any traffic. n/t

[ajax24550]

9. I agree with everything

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[eqfan592]

12. You just had to add in the guns, didn't you?

Did the Republican run organization the Brady Campaign tell you to hate guns and that they are evil and only "conservatives" like them?

Patently stupid ass thing to add in there.

Otherwise, an interesting list.

[undergroundarnold]

14. as you stated...

The list would be significantly larger if Dubya's antics were included!

[MiamiVice]

15. I got one even simpler,,,jajaja

They cheat on their wives 99% of the time. And sexx scandals are a normal way of life for them...jojojo

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[OrwellwasRight]

19. Here is a simpler, funnier version

It all really just boils down to this:


ISSUE                               DEMOCRATS                               REPUBLICANS
Criminals:            Give them a second chance                   Give them the swift sword of death

The poor:             Give them some food                         Give them the swift sword of death

Endangered Species      Give them protection                   Give them the swift sword of death

Dictators             Give them a way out                         Give them the swift sword of death

The uninsured:         Give them some health care                   Give them the swift sword of death

The cost:          $999,000,000,000,000, 000,000,000,000                  $29.95 (cost of one sword)




*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*

Or, as others have suggested in the past


ISSUE:       DEMOCRATS       REPUBLICANS

Guns:             No                Yes

Drugs:             Yes               No
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(Everything else follows from this table.)

[cadeyrn]

20. Brutal

Brutal assessment. :)

[PinkFloyd]

21. I stand corrected..

I thought it was a deranged crazy person screaming about "socialism" and threatening people. Guess I'm confusing them with teahadists.

[MarshalltheIrish]

22. You think gay marriage will lead to animal marriage and sex with inanimate objects

I swear that kind of thought is viral among right wing nutsacks.

[Betty Karlson]

24. I always thought of myself as a conservative

in the Burkean sense of the word, of course. Reading this, it seems to me that the term conservative is being misapplied by the same and for the same who misapply the word "Christian" to themselves.

[David West]

25. "Killing" guns? Sheer ignorance.

What exactly is wrong with being against the WWII draft? I know many more conservatives who support or are indifferent to a draft than who vehemently oppose it as I do. I would have thought most people here would be against the draft, but maybe I'm wrong.

[Fuerfrei]

26. How to ACTUALLY identify your average Conservative.

Your average Conservative is 5'6"(Female) or 5'10"(Male.). Most likely literate, and tends to be a homeowner. Often possesses a driver's license.
In other words, no different from the average American!

[SammyP]

27. Haha

You are one hundred percent right! Nice to know somebody on this plant has a logical brain!

[schmice]

28. You don't say.

[tcaudilllg]

29. Conservatives tend to be all smiles, or else dreadful beyond imagination.

[Sau Lan]

30. Very funny

But 100% true.

[Quartermass]

31. If A Conservative

is someone who defends the status quo, then eventually everybody becomes a conservative.

Because, when things change, those who brought on the change will fight for things not to change.

[populistleftist1]

32. if they regularly vote GOP/DEM/Libertarian

[iamthebandfanman]

33. Go to DU3. n/t

[johnb72341js]

34. awesome