Just Say "I lied" - Will Bower admits to spouting wrong info on Faux News

[TheBigotBasher]

He still blames everyone else and it is quite apparent that he did not check with the Hillary campaign before helping to destroy her attempts to clear her debts, but Will Bower has issued what is as near as an apology as the PUMA Republican front will ever give. (No apology to the Hillary campaign from him though)

http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/08/21/a-retraction/comment-page-1/#comment-1134000


Comment by Will Bower | 2009-02-04 15:23:04

On July 10, 2008, I received the debt information from two sources, John West (of the "300″ Petition, "ClintonDems", "Democracy Workshop", and "I Own My Vote") and Cynthia Ruccia (of "Women for Fair Politics").
Both West and Ruccia later contacted Caren Turner (of "ToGetHer4Us") to confirm with her that they had indeed been my sources.
John West later went on to reveal his source as having been Jamie Brazil ― a cousin of Hillary Clinton (as he has been described to me) ― who (according to West) had received that information in a conference call with Clinton finance-team leader, Jonathan Mantz.
There were other witnesses who had heard such information being generated by one or more of the sources listed above, namely, individuals within the organization "Real Democrats USA"… although they themselves were not responsible for passing that information on to other sources.
This is how it came to pass that I shared this information with the media. We now know that this information was faulty. At the time, however, I had believed these sources to be reliable ones.

[Maribelle]

1. Republican front?

Do you have any proof that the PUMA Republican front was indeed a republican front? Or perhaps this is this just your biased opinion?

[TheBigotBasher]

2. Where do I start

I am actually quite keen on exposing a lot of far right links with the PUMA fronts. I still believe that they were deliberately undermining Hillary Clinton, while pretending to support her. The biggest example is the $6 to $10 million claim, which they pushed on Faux and across the internet. They did not speak to the Clinton campaign. If her debts had been cleared she would have been announcing it herself.

Even Will Bowyers - for ages the PUMA spokepug for Faux, gives his excuse for that lie - PUMA could not be trusted. They provided him with false info.

With regard to their policies go to almost any of their current sites, you will find every Repug talking point, extreme racism, on even death threats against the President.

Not exactly Liberal. There is a Liberal Pro Hillary forum announced on here though. It
PUMAPAC "founder" Darragh Murphy has to date not made any donation to the Hillary campaign fund. Some other donations are listed including McCain in 2000.

[Maribelle]

3. What I asked you ...

Do you have any proof that the PUMA Republican front was indeed a republican front?


You've offered not a shred of proof.

Most Hillary supporters, especially those that posted here in her Supporters Group, are "quite keen" on how and when P.U.M.A. first appeared, about the exact time she suspended her campaign. They were strong Hillary supporters from the start that banded together over issues such as the delegates from Florida and Michigan, blatant sexism in the media, the accusation that Hillary Supporters were racist, and other pertinent issues. Some of them voted for Obama. Some opted for a 'write in'. Others went on to support McCain.

In any case, they surely were not deliberately undermining Hillary Clinton - quite the opposite is true in fact.

I have no problem with Democrats castigating those that did go on to support McCain. However, I do have a problem with blanket lies about all of them as a group, as you have done, especially here in the Hillary Clinton Supporters Group.

#1 They were not a republican front.

#2 They never deliberately undermined Hillary.

#3 They were strong Hillary supporters, and never 'pretended' to support her.

[TheBigotBasher]

4. Who founded PUMAPAC?

Has that person according to the FEC made a single donation to Hillary Clinton or the Democratic Party?

Please tell me if you can find any record of a Will or William Bowers donating to Hillary. I do have video, which ran on many news sites where he lied about PUMA having cleared the Elect Hillary campaign debts.

Even today the PUMA sites make the Klan look liberal and are the worst example of an increasingly dangerous echo chamber as alternative opinion is not allowed.

If you go to almost any site within the "PUMASPHERE" - their band of fives will all still be campaigning against President Obama. Darhag Murphy is running campaigns against the Reinvestment Act and Riverchuckee was unsure about how to deal with the Leadbetter Act, after all she would not want to congratulate the President on anything. TexasDarlin was associating with Techdude a poster at StormFront; even Noquarter booted her. And that site, NoQuarter home of tthe non existent Whitey tape, that tried to paint Obama as Nation of Islam, has become so full of bitter bigots bigoting that they whip themselves up from making racist comments to making death threats.

[TheBigotBasher]

5. Actually, as I was reserving this for abusing Will Bowers

which I felt very appropriate on a truly Democratic Pro Hillary forum, can we move the Primary discussion to somewhere else? I suggest here. Primarily as you have me interested in debating that question with someone who is not goiing to call me an "Obot" or whatever term of the day they use.

http://stupidpumas.wordpress.com/2009/02/02/a-challange-to-any-puma/

To let you know it is not my blog. I have just started a new journal here. I suggest them as they appear to be reasonable, I would not however be able to debate at any PUMA site as they do not allow question to their hatred. Have a look for AnninCA. A full on PUMA, but now a neo Nazi. Try posting anything that even hints at supporting our President on one of their sites.

With regard to a racism charge, Hillary supporters are not racist. PUMA is.NoQuarter, RiverDaughter, PumaPac are disgustingly racist Neo Nazi bigots.

Democratic supporters of Hillary are however entitled to work with the Party to reform the system of selection. Noting that the caucus is a very important way of ensuring that Party activists can still dictate a selection over a Presumed Candidate.

DU has a ban on re-starting Primary discussions so I would rather restrict the topic to how can someone be as thick as the Borrower. If he did not do not go on Fox as a Rethug to undermine Hillary, but went on as a supporter who personally cleared her debts, without checking with her campaign how much had actually been raised, then I have to give him some credit. He has opened up for research in to new levels of brain death. Seriously, there must be a prize for that level of stupidity. Consideration must be given to awarding amoebas nobel laureate awards in comparison.

When he went on CNN jointly with Darhag Murphy he jumped up and down on his seat attempting to outshine how much he hated Barack Obama, until the CNN Questioner asked about the $6 million. Darhag was even more stupefied then normal which is a considerable achievement however, I guess out of male valour Borrow did not speak up to say it was him that lied on Fox.